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  • Issue 150: Limestone Cowboys
  • pleaderwilliams
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    costly costly costly and i would like to buy one but they don’t seem like good vfm

    If you want value for money then I’m really not sure that Orange is the right bike brand for you…

    pleaderwilliams
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    No ITV only

    I’m impressed, there’s no way that any of my moral positions are strong enough not to crumble at the thought of having to watch ITV for 4 weeks.

    pleaderwilliams
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    It’s costing us £4638 a second for 29 days of sport, if you believe this http://ethicsgirls.com/olympics/

    However, if you believe Cameron (which I don’t), it will boost the economy by £13 billion, leaving us at least £4 billion up since the last government statement on costs was under £9 billion. Believing neither source, an end result somewhere between an £11 billion loss and a £4 billion profit could well mean we roughly break even.

    pleaderwilliams
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    Capital Expenditure about time some of it got spent where it’s made

    China, India and the USA?

    pleaderwilliams
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    To be fair, I don’t have too much of a problem with cutting funding for elite sports. I’d say we take sport too seriously as a nation. We fund heavily at elite level, but don’t have the coaches or facilities at grass-roots level.

    In some ways British Cycling has been the worst at this, in that they’ve demonstrated that it’s training that makes an athlete, you don’t need a huge pool of talent, you just need to pick a few fairly talented people and throw a whole lot of money and technology (and hard work) at them. It has undoubtedly got all the MAMILs out there, but I don’t know if it’s really made that much of a difference to how many kids ride their bikes to school, or how many will get into cycling as a sport, especially those without the rich parents to buy them the bike, drive them to the track, pay their entry fees etc.

    pleaderwilliams
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    As Samuel L Jackson himself posted on twitter earlier:

    @SamuelLJackson: Like I said before, those BRITS are some PEDALIN’, RECORD BREAKIN’, MUTHACYCLINPHUCCAS!!

    pleaderwilliams
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    I’m only asking. I can watch sports with as much passion as anyone, but I can also be objective.
    So, an answer to the question?

    Got to say, I am enjoying watching the Olympics, as I knew I would, but do kinda agree with those who think we could probably be funding better things than elite sports. It certainly brings the country together though, so maybe it is worth it in some ways.

    However, if you want to award Mo’s gold to the USA because he trains there, then I guess we get Ruta Meilutyte’s gold from Lithuania since she trains in the UK?

    pleaderwilliams
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    Sounds like you might need some tartan paint and a bit of elbow grease for that cogbotton…

    The only things on a bike that have pistons are hydraulic brakes, but I’ve never heard of a cogbotton, maybe you misheard? Probably worth giving them a call and asking for a slightly more detailed explanation.

    pleaderwilliams
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    Team GB aren’t paid, and don’t get paid anything for winning a medal either. I guess it could well effect your lottery funding if you do much worse/better than expected though.

    pleaderwilliams
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    was a custom paint job but once saw a five in urban camo detailing. Grey, white and black, looked ace. ( other views of this colourscheme are available)

    Seriously though, if you want a different colour bike, just get yours resprayed and save several hundred quid.

    pleaderwilliams
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    Why is his arm in his trousers?

    pleaderwilliams
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    If they fall over and no-one has touched them, then yes, it is cheating, because there’s a rule against simulation. If they make the most of the contact, as happens week in week out with little complaint, then no, that’s not cheating because it’s not against the rules.

    pleaderwilliams
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    They can restart the race if there has been an accident “mishap”.

    FTFY, according to the rules, which specify only a “mishap”, nothing more.

    From the UCI’s advice to commissaires:

    Recognized accidents:
    • Fall
    • Puncture
    • Equipment failure: breakage of a vital part of the bike. These are RECOGNIZED accidents.

    Unrecognized accidents:
    • Tightening defect: foot out of pedal, misaligned wheel or handlebars, loose saddle etc. These are UNRECOGNIZED.

    Note: competitors are permitted one accident in each round of an event and may start a second time. After this they are relegated according to the level of the event.

    pleaderwilliams
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    No idea when Specialized do their discounting, sorry.

    Assume you have checked out Merlin/Ribble/CRC/Wiggle for deals? These are pretty good, and a good price:

    http://www.decathlon.co.uk/shimano-ro87-cycling-shoes-id_8166295.html#

    Or keep an eye on sportspursuit.com

    pleaderwilliams
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    Surely it has to be the El Guapo, the Alpine is pretty much three times the price! That extra £1100 buys a lot of very nice parts to hang off it. Or alternatively, a nice hardtail to go with it!

    pleaderwilliams
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    Good question druidh, although it doesn’t seem to have been an issue, no cox anorexics have been put forward. A ten stone weight advantage in a sport where you attempt to physically throw your opponent seems a bit much to expect, imagin that weight difference in Boxing.

    That weight difference is perfectly possible in boxing, the superheavyweight division in boxing has no upper limit, its +91kg, the heavyweight division in judo is +100kg.

    Also it looks like he’s just been thrown…

    pleaderwilliams
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    The larger party can decide to continue as a minority government, however, the opposition can call for a vote of no confidence, and if the government loses the vote then a General Election is called.

    pleaderwilliams
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    It’s a massive shame for him, but no restarts in the ruless so that’s it.

    However, that doesn’t mean that the rules can’t or shouldn’t be changed in the future…

    pleaderwilliams
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    pleaderwilliams
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    Really? British airlines have had zero fatalities in the last 10 years. How many road deaths have there been in that time?
    UK 10 year fatality rates per billion passenger km.
    UK Airlines – zero
    Rail 0.2
    Bus and coach 0.3
    Car 2.4
    Motorcycles 104

    To be clear, I’m not trying to say that airline travel is dangerous, just that stats can be misleading. Data from a different source that supports what I said (air travel least dangerous by billion miles/km, among most dangerous by billion journeys) is here.

    N.B. DETR (where the data is from) is now known as the Department for Transport.

    pleaderwilliams
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    So essentially, if he was a worse rider, and couldn’t recover from that loss of control, then it’s fine, but because he is good enough that he could have recovered, albeit not totally (enough not to crash, but not enough to not completely ruin his race) then that is not OK?

    It’s clearly a grey area in the rules, designed to build in some flexibility so that a slip, fall, loss of control, crash or mechanical failure doesn’t instantly write off your entire competition. Probably why none of the other riders seem to have complained about it, after all, the sport is about who goes fastest, and the GB team were clearly the fastest there overall.

    Still very silly to say it was deliberate because media & public pressure may well now force a law change, leading to even more situations like the relegations in the women’s races yesterday, where the third fastest team gets the gold.

    pleaderwilliams
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    It wasn’t just a ‘slow start’, it was a genuine mishap due to the explosive nature of the start. He lost control, got into a wobble and got chucked off by the fixed gear. He could probably have ridden it out but it would all have been over so he went down. It’s not like he was half way round, perfectly in control, but decided he’d got off a bit slow so crashed.

    The rule was apparently introduced when a defending champion’s foot slipped and he went down at the start, so couldn’t defend his title. People thought that was very harsh so rules were changed to allow one fall per team. This probably falls within the spirit of those rules, but admitting it was deliberate was not too clever.

    pleaderwilliams
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    NSFW, natch.

    pleaderwilliams
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    He went off wobbly, then got even more wobbly. He probably could have ridden it out but the race would have been lost, so he didn’t bother to try and recover. As stated above one fall per team is allowed. Admitting that he fell deliberately was not a great move, and will probably cause a rule change.

    pleaderwilliams
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    My least favourite new verb is “helicopter” -not in the military/mountain rescue sense, but the managment-speak dissemination of information sense.

    I think “helicopter” more than makes up for this minor transgression through its use in the waving your willy round in circles sense.

    Should be “Forwards!”

    pleaderwilliams
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    I do love “scientific” proof that compare pedestrian with cyclist with car. As both the numbers and the mileage of the three part is so different.

    If you look at the scientific studies in detail they will nearly always take this into account by providing accident statistics by ‘billion miles travelled’ or sometimes statistics ‘per trip’. It’s an interesting point, in that air travel is probably the safest by ‘miles travelled’ and probably the most unsafe ‘per trip’. It’s important to know what measure a study uses, and the study will say which they use and why they chose it, but essentially, they realised your point a long time ago, and it is accounted for in scientific studies, so that’s not a reason to dismiss them.

    pleaderwilliams
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    I do agree with the fact that there are idiots on both forms of transport, and that people should be cycling more safely than they do. I also don’t know statistics on causes of cyclist/motorist accidents, however, having cycled in London for 6 or 7 years, and followed the safety campaigns, and therefore the cyclist fatalities, which are generally fairly small in number (8-20 a year), it seems, anecdotally at least, that the vast majority are one: women, and two: cycling as directed on the right hand side, often waiting at traffic lights, and are then crushed by turning HGVs/Buses.

    I have never once heard of a cyclist being killed after being hit by a car having jumped a red light, although I don’t doubt that it could happen, it’s clearly nowhere near as common as being killed when an HGV turns across your path. Maybe an example where your perceived risk affects your judgement?

    P.S. I should point out that I don’t jump red lights, some people seem to espouse that it is ‘safer’ to get ahead of the traffic, I think you can be pretty safe while still waiting at the lights, although several friends have been hit from behind doing just that, it’s never been very serious. I don’t think jumping lights is particularly dangerous if done properly, of course it could be extremely dangerous if done improperly, but fortunately the vast majority of cyclist in London who do it, seem to do it safely (as in they don’t get hit, it may not look safe to you or I). I choose not to do it because I know it annoys motorists and is used against us in arguments for better protection for cyclist and better cycling infrastructure.

    pleaderwilliams
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    What would you rather have in the steering wheel of your car? An airbag or a six inch metal spike? No doubt you’d drive more carefully with the spike, but you wouldn’t accept it. So why on earth would you get on a bike without a helmet?

    Can’t fault the logic.

    Absolutely can fault the logic. Scientific studies (here) have shown that wearing a helmet while driving is probably more effective than wearing a helmet when cycling in terms of preventing injury, and that head injuries are more common while driving. So if you don’t wear a helmet when driving, then why on earth would you wear one when cycling?

    pleaderwilliams
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    Unfortunately a lot of sports funding in this country goes to elite-level athletes, it does mean that we can win a few gold medals, but all this really does is gloss over the fact that there is very little investment in public facilities and grass-roots sport.

    pleaderwilliams
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    I love a bit of mysogeny on any afternoon, or any morning or evening for that matter.

    Not really interested in women’s sports full stop.

    It’s misogyny! Although, again, I’d argue that that is not necessarily misogynistic, but is possibly sexist.

    pleaderwilliams
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    Thing is the badminton set a precedent that the sport rules can get over-ridden by the spirit of the Olympics thing. The badminton players weren’t DQ’d at the time under the rules of their sport.

    I believe that actually at least two of the four pairs were DQ’ed at the time, but were then allowed to continue. It was also under the rules of their sport:

    All four pairs were charged under BWF’s Players’ Code of Conduct – Sections 4.5 and 4.16 respectively – with “not using one’s best efforts to win a match” and “conducting oneself in a manner that is clearly abusive or detrimental to the sport”.

    All the UCI rules seem to say is that each team gets one restart for an ‘accident’, including a fall. Do however agree that saying you threw yourself down when you could have recovered, sounds like slightly dodgy ground.

    pleaderwilliams
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    Although I’m not sure it really is being misogynistic, in fact he’s rather overprotective in a way. While of course demonstrating how backwards and sexist his views are.

    pleaderwilliams
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    Misogyny?

    pleaderwilliams
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    Presumably they think the shim is deep enough to provide all the necessary force, therefore it doesn’t really matter if the lower part of your clamp is just clamping air?

    pleaderwilliams
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    anyone know the official rules for when you can restart?

    Recognized accidents:

    • Fall
    • Puncture
    • Equipment failure: breakage of a vital part of the bike. These are RECOGNIZED accidents.

    Unrecognized accidents:

    • Tightening defect: foot out of pedal, misaligned wheel or handlebars, loose saddle etc. These are UNRECOGNIZED.

    Note: competitors are permitted one accident in each round of an event and may start a second time. After this they are relegated according to the level of the event.

    pleaderwilliams
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    Not a DQ – a Relegation. If it was a DQ, the Chinese girls wouldn’t have got the silver.

    Well ok, not a DQ, but an automatic loss that in the early rounds is essentially a DQ. It just seems a bit over the top, especially since both China & GB would still have won their respective races without the tiny advantage possibly gained. You get a restart for a fall after all. Its just as bad as the no tolerance on false starts in athletics. These events aren’t gymnastics, they’re not about perfect precision every time, they’re about who is fastest. I’m not saying it should be ignored or allowed, but the sanction could be less harsh.

    pleaderwilliams
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    Can’t you just get a seatpost that fits, or am I missing something here?

    pleaderwilliams
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    It seems a pity that it requires a DQ rather than a rerun or a 1 second time penalty or something else a bit less harsh. Years of training thrown away in one pretty small mistake.

    pleaderwilliams
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    Having to DQ the two fastest teams does taint this competition slightly.

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