Went for a child patient, asked dad what her name was. “Labia”. Ok, how am I spelling that? “L.a.b.i.a”. Right, great.

It was the dad that was the twunt!

I used to work in a global help desk and we had some funny ones.

China – Ming Ye To
USA – Dr De’ath, I kid you not thats how he insisted it spelt. Now if I had thet last name and a PhD I would drop the Dr bit.
UK – Mr T w a t.
Loads of Randys which on video conferences when they introduce themselves and just go “Hi I’m Randy”, first few times I just lost it and had to make excuses and leave. Childish I know.

All time favourite was a freind of mine called Tina Salmon, I blame the parents.

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DannyH I think thats what goes on far too often around here. Certain individuals posturing etc. A comment from me ref BNP and all of a sudden I love the BNP. Well thats not what I said. As for JY, ernie et al, it would be good focus and stay on topic rather than veer off and try to “score points”. There has been alot of bullying in this thread purely because people disagree with others.

Personally I dont mind a healthy debate but my views are my views.

Indeed I agree with some of the sentiment from JYs last post that the BNP come across like that and have done themselves so much harm by their actions. My comment was they have some good policies, not I support them etc. The BNP present themsleves as odious morons, but some of their policies are OK. The way they are means they will never get anywhere.

But that was a side show for the “usual suspects” to flex their muscle completely off topic, as are many of the thread links.

Should we recognise a racial element in these crimes, Yes we should. Does it make it worse, yes it does as it appears that the authorities dont see it. Now thats my take, I may be wrong but I will stand by it. Is it cultural, possibly.

Nope not interested in the BNP, but lets exemplify Tories and Labour who have been arrested just for balance shall we.

As for being wide of the mrk not from where I am sitting. As not taking a balanced view and suggesting political party “A” is bad because of X.

As for having criminal convidtions well I am sure many MPs have, such as speeding. I suggest you look at the manifesto before you suggest its all crap. As with any political party. There is a lot of good and bad. What they actually deliver is usually very different. But dont make blanket statements you cant back up.

Anyway there is a gang mentality in this forum having seen several posts, if the views dont fit with certain individuals it turns into a gang ****.

As for the OP “Are we getting far too over-sensitive about ‘racial’ issues?” Yes we are, there are issues within a great deal of communities which are race related and scarcely anyone will admmit to it. Those issues range from policing, forced marriages, rape etc. And that is all colours of skin not just white or balck but asian aswell.

Personally it would be great to all get along but we cant even accept a different viewpoint without bullying in the forum. A positive attitude would be to accept people who had a different view point to yourselves rather than labelling that viewpoint as wrong. Ever thought for one minute that it may be you thats wrong.

Is the best people can do is cout and paste? Slag everyone off without actually having a point?

Ernie I used thise examples as simple examples without delving into the politic of how policy may differ between parties. Equally decisions being made at a local level without consultation decisions like that are autocratic which does not fit in a democracy. Yet you say thetre is nothing good in the BNP, you would have said exacly the same had i said Greens, Liberal etc. Pick a fight from your armchair without actually having a clue WTF you are talking about.

Sorry why is flying your own flag, or not being able to pathetic. Equally lets all have a Winter festival.

Yes they are silly examples but that the level of intolerance for our own culture. We should embrace our own and other cultures.

However as has been said a crime is a crime here and they have been convicted. Unfortunatly we will never be privvy to the full facts. Was there a racial element, possibly.

Now back to the BNP, have you read their manifesto? They do not have siufficient depth in their manifesto, some good ideas but could they deliver. Like most political parties have some good ideas yet all you see is racism. I wouldnt vote BNP because of the undertones but dont just say they have nothing good to say. One of their key points is zero tolerance on crime, ok so thats a bad thing then?

These people should rot, but not here at our expense, deport them as it should be a priveledge to live here.

As for having faith in the police, its more the justice system. Unfortunately it appears the police were initially let down by the CPS. The world is a flawed place, this infighting will not solve anything and just illustrates our intolerance of each other let alone those more undesireable elements of our society that prey on the weak and vulnerable.

Surely you mean Parcel Farce?

JY pulling every post apart because your right and we are wrong.

Yes generalisations, observations. Which is what a lot of the posts here are. So everyone is wrong and you are right.

Try letting people have there say.

But if you have a white guy attacking a black guy the first thing that is tagged is a hate crime.

is it? in every single case? I am pretty sure people of different colours can have a fight without it being racist.

Did I ssay in every case!

Because you may be a different colour and I have seen this first hand does not preclude racism.

has anyone suggested only whites can be racist this is a spurious line trotted out for some reason on these threads.

Spurious line trotted out on these threads? What other threads? Did I suggest that people are only suggesting whites can be racist?

Bad “lilly livered liberal” stuff, defending the indefensible, changing our own culture, even as far as not being able to Christmas and fly our own flag due to “racial” sensetivities, when the only people getting their knickers in a twist are usually councils and “lilly livered liberals”

BNP stuff thats good, limiting imigration, not necessarily in the realms they wish but certainly imposing more greater control. Being able to fly our own flag and celebtrate Christmas.

Anything else or are you off back to the Guardian!

If we remove the colour from this its not racially motivated. However I understand these were all white girls that were abused. I also understand though possibly incorrectly that these individuals preyed on white girls because they see them as lower value, unworthy etc.

Now that may be incorrect.

But if you have a white guy attacking a black guy the first thing that is tagged is a hate crime. Now which is worse the sexual aspect or the racist, if any aspect.

Unfortunate there are and will always be racism, however there are over generalisations. Somone who says something once may be considered racist but the context may be similar to calling someone fat etc. Dependent on social circumstance ie how they use the language etc. Does telling a joke about a minority make you racist. Simply by segregating the population demographically is that not racist.

Because you may be a different colour and I have seen this first hand does not preclude racism. Minorities are just as good and bad as the majority.

I wont rule out a racist element but the lilly livered liberal element have made a rod for everyones backs. Some BNP policy is good, however the motivation is not.

Was it religeous? Not classed as a hate crime I believe as statutes rely too much on the colour of your skin. Is north v south as bad as white v black. Yes it is, violence due to difference and intollerance is always bad.

When they have served their sentences will these sad individuals be deported. I very very much doubt it. Why because we have a totally inept government, no difference from Labour in that respect.

We can all find videos and pictures of dogs chasing cyclists, or the results of dog attcks.

I know why not all of us stay in and never go out incase of random shootings, attcks from people etc.

I think a moderate sense of reality needs to be restored.

Video 1 – dog owners a cock.

Video 2 – dog owners a cock

Video 3 – dog training.com, whatever thats not training. The dog at that age should be trained so if its been trained to do that, F*** me dont use dogtarining.com

Video 4 – Dogs doing a grand job defending its territory against 5 intruders! Dont have all the facts but probably not thought through well by dibble and probably not the most responsible dog owner either.

Pictures cool anymore, lets just have a dog attack thread. Were they cyclists, are they dog attacks or just pictures.

As for being 10 times the size of a dog, there are many dogs as big as people.

Did anyone else notice that the videos also showed a specific breed type of dog, also largely associated with a certain type of dog owner. Now I am not saying that all owners of “bull” type breeds are the same but there was a common thread.

Recorded statistics show a rise in dog bites but those statistics are challenged by improved reporting and largely believed to be pretty static over the last several years. The number of dog bites or related dog injuries is around 5000 per year. Of those it does not say how many were attack, which again is a very different story.

Unfortunately sad events occur and stupid owners will always exist but I think you are less likely to be attacked by a dog than you are to actually injure yourself on your bike.

Several comments here that are wrong wrong wrong. But I understand where they come from.

kaesae – fair play if you were being attacked I would do the same and glad you say the response should be relative to the circumstance. If it was my dog I would probably do the same.

Brake neck – why should all dogs be on a lead. Most public places have that requirement and if its a busy area I agree. Many “professional” dog walkers are people without experience trying to make a few quid with animals they are not familiar with. Theres a massive difference between that and an owners relationship with the animal. As for talking dog, yes you do, as you need to develope the skill to understand you dog and the situations adn its reactions.

Yes they do perceive threats, bikes to a dog are unusual, generally, move quickly and are noisy. If its not familiar with them it may perceive it as a threat and respond. All that said the owners have a responsibility to socialise their dog properly to limit those fear responses. This makes it much easier for th owner to understand their dogs behaviours in unusual situations.

For that reason and I have said this alot on here, its the owner not the dog. Most dont adequately expose their dogs to different situations, people, oyther animals. They sit in watching telly, dogs locked up for hours, walked for 15 mins. Never meet a cyclist, horse, wheelchair etc so respoond as if scared.

Most owners should be muzzled in my opinion, lets NOT blame the dog but the owners.

I told you Jake the Snake wasn’t a good choice for this ride!

If your getting attacked by a dog your in the sh1t. Big stick or a punch on the nose but avoiding the confrontation is the best way. If you have time dismount and shield yourself with your bike. Any dog repellent could cause harm or distress to a dog and I would not advocate them in general use ie in public as it may affect perfectly harmless animals.

If you see a dog on or off the lead slow down as you pass, you may alarm it. If your nervous the dog can become nervous as well by not understanding your intentions. Be confident around them I know if you are nervous of dogs thats easier said than done.

Agree 100% that a dog should not approach you etc etc. I am a dog owner and walk my dogs on canal and toepaths frequented by riders so they are used to them. I also keep an eye out and recall my dogs to close control when riders are about or passing, unfortunately I don’t always hear them so have to rely on my dogs training. Many riders slow to pass some don’t. Also as a rider I see both sides. Typically we are sharing the same space so we have to get along.

Unfortunately many dog owners think they have a right and their dogs have a right to wander where they like and cause disruption. We are not all the same, not all of us are idiots. I must admit its a long time since I have been chased by a dog, except when I ride with my own.

I heard she received a trophy which wasn’t elaborated on. So I take soem of it back, however surely she could have a medal and a trophy.

Agreed not the place to be cynical, simply a huge and heroic performance in my eyes.

Definition of “marathon”,

“any contest, event, or the like, of great, or greater than normal, length or duration or requiring exceptional endurance”

An outstanding performance and raising funds by Claire.

Epic fail by the London Marathon organisers as she has achieved much much more than any of the other participants at a huge personal sacrifice.

Whilst I am here my deepest sympathies to the family of Claire Squires incase anyone thinks I am overlooking that personal tragedy.

Going mad not being able to get on my bike

Is that how you did it!

There was a thread on here the other day about cutting fingers off etc, guess that doesn’t really count as generally your not there to help if someoen is phaffing about with their rotors etc?

Second ribs and concussion, belived I could ride my bike well after mine.

Broken fingers.

Broken helmet, dare ya!

I thought about the Boardman but I know going into Halfords to talk about a bike I would be up on an assault charge after my last experience.

I was looking for tubes for my 29er and the guy said “are you sure its 29 they are all 26” muppet.

Anyway I digress. Yes £1500 is a healthy budget do we anticipate that hydros will be “significantly” expensive for a few years? I don’t really have \a budget but I can’t take the p155 as Doris let me blow the budget before Christmas on my 29er.

I am liking the Vapour, have you had a rack on it? How is it for comfort.

The A6 is a wonderful drive, great seats. I swapped out to a Merc C class and hate it. As has been said there are a few things that can be “very” expensive to repair on the Audi and by extension I assume the VW. Fuel injector £1k, I had one go on my A4.

My A6 tried to kill itself but under warranty Audi were awesome. I am looking at change in the next 12 months and thinking Audi or Mondeo. If I get an Audi it will get an extended 3 year warranty, similar budget to yourself. Also get the Sline completely different and far better drive that the SE.

I tested all the estates except the Honda at the time. The V70 felt like a boat.

I’d love to get to know people on here as I ride alone and its getting me down! Need something more challenging.

You could do it for about £200. Thats about £150 fuel based on approx 40 to the gallon and a cheap channel tunnel return. The fuel is one way so add £150 for the return fuel.

If your cars a gas guzzler considerably more. Not sure what tolls there are over there these days. But return from £350 including fuel. You need to check the channel tunnel prices though. Could be another £200-300 for the tunnel if you cant get a cheap deal.

Yeah I agree, some “restorative justice” like go around and kick seven kinds of sh1te out of the little fecker.

secondly, only three of your mates been in touch, not sure how many of you there were but in my mind they should have bailed in and you wouldn’t be in the state you are.

Unfortunately non of the above is the “right” way to deal with it and you are probably respectable with too much to lose which tends to hold most of us back when some fekwit deserves a right shoeing.

Sorry but sometime I just get annoyed.

Get well soon man.

thegreatape

Outstanding, I might have to memorise that!!!!!!!!!!!!! EPIC

Scribe the internal corners, practice for the extrnal corners which are ther trickiest.

You might be able to hire a table saw but its overkill.

One things for definite, your gona need a bigger trap!

The only thing I will add to whats been said, is make sure as soon as you are well enough to go for a beer. You don’t want or need this sort of thing weighing on your shoulders. It can be a massive hurdle but the sooner you do it the better. You may not even think it at the moment but from an experience I had it can happen. Bit like a bad off, get back as soon as you can.

Twunts, one thing I would say is that I hope you got a few of them.

Its ok being able to “look after yourself” but even if they are only 14 or so you cant handle 8 of the little feckers. Its also the last thing you want on a night out.

There may be cctv etc, report it to the police.

Hope you get well soon.

Here are a few of mine

Big

Sleepy

Catch me if you can

Never knew here ears were that big

Far to many people assume a dog is just a dog. They then buy iy without realising they have to train it and educate themselves about its needs etc.

A dog will always be a dog, mine still have their moments but generally they are ok. Many staffies are great with people but I do see them and some mastiffs with chavs. You can usually spot it as they are constantly dragging the dog back as they have zero control over it.

Valid point Junkyard, but we are made to feel excluded. I love the Scotch Scots and everyone so certainly not excluded in my mind !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

Anyway I am glad we can laugh at ourselves, I would much rather have it as the “English Games” as its a lot more inclusive of the whole polpulation, rathere than the powers that be asking us to all get behind the “London Olympics”.

I didnt say it was an accurate depiction of the event, I agree in the sentiment that it should be the “host” country as it impacts us all from a cost perspective and the events are held at other locations. However it is titled the London Olympics unfortunately.

Um no chip on the shoulder at all it is what it is, I think you may find that it is actually called the London Olympics. Its a title. Similarly you are Konabunny not bellend. If I were to call you that mistakenly then you would correct me and I would use the correct name.

Simples, rather than spout tripe accept you made a mistake, or do you not make mistakes? As for the short fuse I think you may see I was pointing out the correct name of the London Olympics and did not resort to calling people pedants or getting xenophobic.

rocketdog

More confused now? Compact is the same front and rear, you mean compact specific?

I realise the rack needs to be disc specific but even then some are still problematic.

I guess when the time comes to just ensure I can getr a rack thats correct. Not bothered about mud guards. Remember them as a kid, nightmare.

The reason for the rack is a little light touring rather than having stuff on my back can go on the bike. No need for front rack as wont be travelling that heavy and can always add a little on my back.

Now stupid question No2. A compact set has a different front derallieur while the rear is the same as normal?

Koanbunny when someone is corrcetd we become pedants, how about getting the title of the olymipcs wrong and then someone defending it with well its actually in England. Thats really idiotic and quite pathetic. Learn to accept that people can be wrong including you. But to compound it you suggest we are pedants for correcting something an get it wrong that its “all” in England.

TJ

What needs t be spaced out the rack? I initially thought the brake but then realised yoou couldnt space the rotor out! Doh!

Yeah I gathered that, I think the trick there is mounting the caliper on the chainstay rather than the seatstay it seems. Still investigating as I think there will be more disc compatible frames later in the year.

A collie needs a great deal of stimulation and that might be the reason its being a pain.