Some excellent replies ,but it may be to late !!!the wife and eldest (19yrs) are off to oxford to have a look at a english bulldog 3 yrs old, for £100 which i,m told is cheap ,the owner is going back to asia and its going to cost him at lot to take it with him ,I have shown them this post and talked it through,someone is at home most times and the eldest is not going at holiday with us so no worries there,I will keep you posted !!