Right, now we have a completely screwed up parliament, looking really strong and stable! WTF happens now!

There’ll have to listen & talk to each other & bear in mind the result.

For once, we might actually get something half decent & not railroaded by one parties cr@p ideas!

Major sh1t storm if it does….

Comedy gold this thread watching the Leavers twist!

May is playing a blinder

Gleaming JY.

Endura.

That way you won’t cry when you scratch/destroy/lose a £100+ pair of glasses!

Wearing a pro cycling jersey?

Bit like wearing the shirt of a PL football team IMHO….

:mrgreen:

Green.

The Torys & Labour are both just as bad as each other.

I still can’t forgive that knunt Blair..

F me…he really did look shook up..

Does a gun suddenly compel you to murder?

No, of course not.

Having seen upclose & personal the damage a high velocity round can do – my concern is that your p1ssed up boyo will have little or no grasp of the consequences of their actions….particularly in the heat of the moment.

For that reason alone I’m against the police being routinely armed – the lack of education regarding firearm use.

There’s no reset button & you don’t get 3 lives.

Leave the firearms to those who’ve shown the profiency & aptitude to have one.

I, for one, have known plenty who had access to firearms & in no uncertain fing terms should have ever been allowed to have.

Firearms are not to be taken lightly & given out like sweets to the old bill. I’m very glad that the standards, now, are as high as they are.

How did Dixon of Dock Green die?

Pssst…..

That was a film – not real!

:lol:

I’m not the only one who finds the thought of routinely armed police scary** rather than reassuring

Indeed.

After living in the US for a few yrs I’ve come to the conclusion that more guns in society are a bad thing.

The number of mall cops with a sidearm was frightening, not to mention those who might be carrying a concealed weapon.

And I’m not squeamish about firearms – 10 yrs in the Army.

I see the gun fantasist is still getting all frothy.

My word, does he ever look at the evidence & the opinion of those whose job it is to understand these things or does he just make sh1t up for the hell of it…..

I can only imagine he’s still got his Action Man PJs..

I’ve some of the XC 650b wheels – seem fine.

Basically, they are Hope – you’ll be fine.

Imagine if the Mayor is a Tory there will be massive street protest innit …

You make less & less sense – how do you do it??

we start locking people up on the basis of suspicion and risk despite them having not *yet* actually done anything provably illegal under current law.

When are you going to realise internment doesn’t fing work?!

And we all saw the uproar over control orders – the same people now screaming that more police are needed to ‘investigate’ terror suspects are the ones who were screaming that control orders were a breach of human rights.

Are they?

Or are you projecting your screaming about everything at the rest of us?

You have rampant speculation and the short sighted idea that you can fix everything with guns and prisons like an ape swinging a rock.

Coffee everywhere!

:lol:

Possibly the only person in power that says what people think and want?

Who are these people so I can run the other way?

I’m calling for the police to be armed

Yeah, cos more guns has always worked.,,.

What happens when one side gets a new bigger, deadlier toy than the other side?

Hmm?

The other side goes & gets a toy that matches or is bigger….

Just what we need: an arms race on our streets..

You haven’t thought this through have you..

I’ve no specialisation in law so I can’t say, but I can say internment et al does not work.

That’s been proven.

What’s your suggestion ninfan?

which I guarantee would have you lot up in arms about his human rights being breached)

If there were reasonable grounds what’s to be upset about?

Rather strikes me it’s you whose thong is getting all twisted..

Not my opinion, but according to the former METsenior police bloke interviewed on Sky, we need need the community policing levels (the ones that were cut) to go and investigate as many allegations as possilbe. Given that all the perpetrators of the three recent UK attacks were known to the police but not sufficiently investigated that makes sense to me.

Succinct enough ninfan?

As Binners said…..

What you need is boots on the ground.

Cameras are cheap & give some a warm glow, but they can’t kick down doors & interview folks.

To be fair, we are already one of the most surveilled countries on the planet as it is..

Yes, but as said….you’d need the stars to line up, so many variables!

Look at the way EU bureaucratic system is enslaving the future of the Greek children now. They (Greeks) cannot even survive and live in the land of their birth but need to disperse and to beg for jobs all over other EU countries … sad innit.

Yep.

It’s all the evil EU’s fault – nothing to with the Greeks own chronic mismanagement of their own country…

Tax evasion

Nitrous..

Because that’s what they believed they had

Yet, that has been proven to be inaccurate.

Why would you use something that you know to be inaccurate if it’s not in an effort to imply the opposite.

You could have caveated it with an admission that it was wrong but you chose not to.

Bias much?

I’m sorry but that call was a shite one. It’s obvious there were no weapons.

& I only quoted you..

Your words….”positive identification”.

Clearly it wasn’t, yet you chose to use them. Why?

positive identification of group with weapons (00.59) and mistaken belief that the camera was an RPG (01.24) cease fire and no shooting at wounded.

&

So the worst you can attribute it to is honest mistake but genuine belief (within a war zone) rather than murder.

You do get the difference between the two, right?

Hmm.

So, initially you try to pass the incident off as a positive identification – which professionally, I can tell you, they didn’t look like weapons in the slightest (previous life as a trained observer in the British Army. Look up STA patrols if you’re bothered)…

Then you admit it was a mistake.

Do you know what you want??

That Peter Hammond chap is a little questionable….

“Frontline Fellowship is a Bible based African mission that has pioneered missionary work into neglected mission fields and areas resistant to the Gospel”

Link

I’m sorry, but “resistant to the Gospel”? Get over yourself Sir. Ever thought those folks might be quite happy?

Peter Hammond

given how ultra-PC the general population, police and politicians have become

Really??

I’ve resigned myself to the fact that Islam will become the dominant religion in this country

PMSL!

Best to just go where the wind blows you..

A little background on internment last time round with the IRA:

Op Demetrius

As I recall it was quite a useful recruitment aid for the IRA.

Loon.

Ignore him.

What a load of rollocks….

we just need to define the offence, e.g. ‘Involvement in the foreign military campaign of a proscribed organisation’

That’s a whole lot of law that needs changing – basically redefining the definition of a combatant. Not that easy..

If it saves lives dannyh why not?

Last time we tried it, it proved to be a great way to alienate even the more mild mannered of folk.

but it’s the general response when anyone brings up these points on the BBC etc.

Not sure about that either TBH..