just went to my LBS today and took my Medium Moonlander and XS Mukluk, both at kind of the opposite end for me, one too big and one a tad too small. I have to have the seatpost up super high on the 15″ Mukluk, so we kind of concluded that a small 16″ would be perfect. Apparently your not supposed to be riding bolt upright? I should apparently be leaning slightly in, like you said Ben, with an A shape? I don’t understand this. It feels very tense and uncomfortable on my back. The upright position feels very comfortable, natural and laid back. On the Moonlander that position is perfect. But it’s wrong? I don’t know, it feels far more comfortable to ride than the XS Mukluk. I get that it’s wrong. But it seems to work? With a short stem wouldn’t the bike be super twitchy anyway? That’d be really frustrating and would get old soon on long rides. The Mukluk with a 50mm stem is super twitchy and requires effort to keep it in a striaght line on the road.

I kind of, starting with bikes, just jumped straight into fatbikes from dirt jumpers and bmxes. I loved having the fattest tyres I could on my bmx and when I found fatbikes I just had to have one! So I haven’t really ever owned any normal sized bikes. When I sell my other bikes that don’t fit me at all I will definetely be getting one. I’m not sure which one yet!

Bar angle – they seem to be pointing up, I can’t think of any way that would feel comfortable. Try rotating them round back towards you to bring them flatter.

I don’t understand what you’re saying at all. they’re riser bars?!!!! And they feel super comfortable. I’m not trying to argue, I’m just saying (:

Consider dropping the stem and get rid of that heavy adjustable thing. Just use spacers to get the height right. A nice short 35mm stem the right way round should work with bars that are sweeping back and not up, but might need a shorter frame (ie a small).

The problem with a shorter stem like I mentioned above is that it’s too twitchy. Even on the XS I still had to lean forward to reach the stem, and that’s a short stem..
Thanks for the advice though. I’ll try moving the saddle back! (:

At 5’5″ I’d think that a small Moonlander would be a better fit. Surly don’t give a recommended height range for their frames though…

I agree. I’ve found one I might be able to get, will try swapping the frame. Yeah Surly reccomend you actually have a bike shop properly fit you to it, which I think they’re very right in saying: http://surlybikes.com/info_hole/spew/spew_bike_fit

Unless you’re riding a recumbent with underseat steering, the handlebars won’t be where your arms naturally fall – with that position, you must be sitting bolt upright.
Instead, as a rough rule of thumb, your back should be around 45 degrees from vertical, and your arms should be at an equal angle, so you look like an A from the side.

I am sitting bolt upright! I thought that was kind of what an upright touring position was anyway? I said above, it feels very comfortable and natural. Riding leaning forwards feels very uncomfortable and tense and strains my back. Am I doing something wrong again? :(

you said it wasn’t comfortable

Sorry if I was a bit unclear, I just meant in the fact that it was too soft. It’s really good otherwise.

It might also be worth looking into shorter cranks if you find your knees are having to bend a lot. The cranks look quite long relative to the riding position.
Once the pedaling position is sorted you could look at the bars. I’m not sure, but it might that a pair of Jones bars with a short stem would sweep back far enough.

Shorter cranks are a really good idea. What’s the difference between having the stem I’ve got on it now and a Jones bar with a huge sweep? Wouldn’t they have similair results, but the Jones bar would be far twitchier? I actually really wanted one, they are just so much!

I think the OP needs to go to a different LBS, not the one that told him a medium Moonlander was correct for his height! It’s not a complicated bike fit that’s required, just some honest advice from someone more knowledgeable or not just trying to offload some old stock to a naive customer.

No one has mentioned the “slick” tyres yet either…..
Well I went there again and one of the guys I know there was really helpful. We kind of concluded a Small frame would be good. I honestly don’t get the riding position though. The leaning forwards bit. Even on the XS with the 50mm stem I still have to like lean forwards in that it becomes really uncomfortable and straining. I’m so confused. There’s another bike shop that stocks all kinds of bikes near me, going to go check it out and the weekend and see what they’ve got.

Plenty of places in London will do a bike fitting for less than £200 – Two Wheels Good in Stoke Newington as an example, I think it’s £50. That would be money well spent, trust me!

Thanks, I’ll definetely try and get one done!

Those photos have blown my mind.

why oh why do I seem to get such ridiculous reactions to almost everything I post on here…. *shakes head*

It actually fits really well. I wouldn’t just be saying that. My arms just naturally fall there. And my legs feel great in that position. I did actually do 30 miles on it last weekend.

But I you need to get yourself one bike that fits you properly

I couldn’t agree more. I’ve been trying to get a fitting done, I just someone to sit down with me and help me workout what size/kind of bike I need. My LBS (a specialized one) says that it will cost £200 and they want to put me on a machine and stuff. I just need a simple fitting, not that. I’ll see if I can find some other bike shops and ask their help.

I appreciate the advice a LOT. I just measured my height which is 5’5″ and my armspan is 5’6″

I was about to suggest the same. Forget fatbikes, dynamos and blingy Hope components. You’ve said that you want to get out bikepacking, how is that getting on? Why not buy yourself a cheap, 2nd hand bike for the summer and get out with your kit to try it out. Worry about a fatbike later. You’ll find loads of choice and you’ll get something on which you can manage a lot more than 30 miles, giving you more opportunity to explore.

Haha well said. I do agree. I do just want a bike that fits. I can’t seem to figure out it out. Judging by the reaction of everyone here I feel like I’m doing something seriously wrong :( The Moonlander feels great to me, though I’m sitting very upright on it, that might be it??
I did see a 14″ inbred on ebay?

and I still have two more weeks of school left (:

why the hell is your saddle that far forward and your stem the wrong way round?

am I missing something?

I’m 5’5″ and it’s medium. I feel like it’s me who’s missing something.

Oh deary me. Officer Friendly. out.

okay let me just clear somethings up. before i go.

@Rorschasch yes I would. But it feels really comfortable? And LOL. it does kinda feel like that. My arms are perfectly long, they come down to my thighs. I don’t get what I’m doing wrong at all….I think I just need a bike fitting.

@Scotroutes What is your news? I’m not getting it.

@Josh Vegas really don’t get what you’re trying to say?!

Mr Josh Vegas you are so, so, so right. I just want to go out there. I don’t want to spend more money and faff around with more bikes. I just want to go adventure. Far out. I think I’m just going to ride my Moonlander. Sure it can only really take 5″ tyres and it will be a bit slower than 4″. And it’s not the perfect size. And it looks wrong with that stem backwards like that. But it works. It is superbly comfortable. With the slicks on it feels almost effortless to ride. I did 30 miles last week on it and the bars were fine the whole time, super comfy. It is the best bike I’ve ever owned. The weak point was the saddle surprisingly enough!

Here’s a pic:

And a close up (please don’t mock LOL)

I’ll just spend the money I get from selling my other bikes on a Dynamo for it (yay!) (:

And thanks all for your replies and help. Much appreciated (:

@cookea thanks! They look pretty good, I sent them an email, though like other have said they may not have the time right now?

Sounds good but they’re located in California. I messaged them anyway lol.

A SURLY MOONLANDER SIZE SMALL HAS LITERALLY JUST POPPED UP ON CLASSIFIEDS!!!!!!!! Doubt the guy will break it up though :(

They look great but they’re just too much, double the cost of the Ice Cream Truck. Will probably just go for that. The annoying thing is I have a whole Moonlandere fully specced with Chris King and Hope stuff everywhere. It’s perfect apart from the frame. I would get another frame but they don’t make them in gorgeous space black anymore. I might just try getting used to it with the backwards stem.

Haha I assume it’s steady pay then? ;)

The ECR was the complete wrong size for me, did not fit me at all.

@HopkinsGm that’s actually a brilliant idea, went their website though and didn’t see any mention of framebuilding courses?

@shaggy that is a really good idea! Unfortunately it seems the Genesis Caribou this year does not come in frame only :( and last years is still availible in some places but smallest size they made it in was 17.5″. I was considering an XS Ice Cream Truck but it does seem such a rip off if you can get a custom titanium frame for £200 more. Unfortunately I just can’t wait 8 weeks. I much prefer building up a bike from the frame as then you can spec all good parts, not generic hubs and brakes.

There’s not much benefit to getting the singular (very closely priced) and I much prefer the Ice Cream Truck. Might just have to settle for a darned offset design. Put a wanted ad in the classifieds for a small/xsmall pugsley, fingers crossed. Just want to get out there and adventure (:

Haha I’m not too fussed about whether it’s Ti to be honest. @The Brick you make some really good points that I needed to hear. I probably will just slow things down lol. And the costs of a workshop in london would probably be a fair bit more than anywhere else. The time hurdle is one I just can’t overcome though. I need it very soon, for summer!! Ice Cream Truck it is then :( going to cost me a small fortune still lol:
Frame: £680
135mm fork: £95
Dynamo front: £250
Exposure Revo: £160
Cranks that fit: £250
And I already owe £400 :( Hopefully selling my Mukluk and ECR will be able to fund it all

Darn. I wouldn’t really know, but thanks for keying me in :( I can’t stand the thought of paying £800 for the only symmetrical steel fatbike frame on the market :(

Oh no. I forgot about this thread.

HOLY SHIT BEN. HOW DID I MISS THAT. HOW? I feel like such a douche. That is so, so cool of you. And really sweet too! I mean it’s obviously no longer valid, but thank you. really! (:

Thanks tang, that’s really nice of you. I found a Surly Moonlander at an amazing price and settled for that. It’s really great! It’s just the wrong size. Me wanting a cargo bike was a stupid overkill LOL. I just wanted to be able to carry a bit of stuff on it. My Moonlander is perfect. It’s just the wrong size. It’s a medium but it’s so big for me I have to run a 95mm stem backwards. I did 30 miles like that and it was pretty solid. decentely comfortable. But I want to get a dynamo and no point pouring money into a bike that doesn’t fit. Hence me wanting a new frame (:

Are there any other tyres availible but the Trailblazer and the Vee Rubber one? Might consider doing a 650b build as I find 26″ a tad small and 29″ a tad big for technical riding.

Voodoo are doing a £500 one that looks OK.

oh noes. I did really like how they were kinda special, like not everyone had one, but this is totally going to ruin it ha.

Thanks for your reply, I just went for it and bought a superstar axle but man is it flimsy the levers are made of plastic!!
Wow, I cannot believe you took your fatbike down a DH track!! I would never have even thought of that, how’s it ride?

Chichester … What a wonderful place !

But then I live here and am biased..
Just returned from a day at the beach and didn’t see another person..

Loads of quiet spots… You’ve just got to know where

And they aren’t for disclosing on here

But if you want a place to stay or pitch a tent give me a shout!
I’m glad to hear that! And thank you! I think I may I have to take you up on that later! (:

What about Train to Cardiff.. then follow to the coast to Milford Haven then get the train back

8O Milf Heaven? :D

Ride the Dunwich Dynamo, chap

Just had a look at it, it’s described almost magically! It does look like a fair bit of fun, I’m curious if the route is on road?

Absolutely love mine, have been wearing them everyday for 3 years and they’re still perfect! Apart from the obvious scuffing (; picked them up for £60 from amazon, I think if you’re lucky you can find a new pair of the made in england ones on the bay.

Just to add to this..
I’ve done lots of offroad long distance “to the coast” rides and one certainly not to miss/dismiss is the route along the south of the Thames out to north Kent. It really is a mix of hard working areas and docks through to expanses of mud flats and open flat land beaches with no one on. The wildlife is spectacular and you really do get a sense of wilderness. Sure it heads to Sheppy but you don’t have to stay there very long do you? Then head down the coast of Kent and if you can head south to Dungeness (as mentioned) Some spectacular places along the way..
Other than that the offroad route to the coast from London is GPX’d all over Strava…

That actually sounds fantastic. Mud flats, open, flat, empty beaches and spectacular wildlife? Sounds amazing!!!!!! I will definitely have to give that route a go!! So you stay on the south of the thames canal, and just follow it east? Sounds utterly amazing to be honest. I was excited. Now I literally CAN’T WAIT! ADVENTURE!!!!!!! Just three more weeks of exams.. And I just need to get that damn dynamo on my Moonlander!!
Offroad route to the coast from London on Strava? I will definitely have to look at that as well., never been on Strava before but everybody talks about it!

OP listen to what @bikebouy says
FYI a lot of the South coast has fantastic paths, many on cliff tops but they cannot be ridden officially.
If you do North/South Downs (both have great riding in their own right, I can provide some tips) then the pretty village/harbour of Bosham or West Wittering for beach and dunes are worth a visit.
If you want an “ocean” experience I would suggest jumping on the train to Portsmouth then a Ferry to the IOW at Ryde and do a tour of the Island perhaps all the way out to the Needles in the West. You can get a ferry from Yarmouth (pretty town) back to Lymington and return on train to London.

I most certaintly am! He’s given me some really amazing pointers! Cliff tops sound pretty breath taking..But it’s still physically possible right? (; Just hope it doesn’t take all my breath haha.
Thank you, I’m going to research the route to Brighton which I think passes North/South Downs, but I will come to you if I need any pointers ! (:

Loving the excitement!
Well, it is the south coast of England, “remote” is a tricky ask! You might have to settle for quiet, wild & secluded.
http://www.landscapesforlife.org.uk/chichester-harbour-aonb.html
http://www.conservancy.co.uk/page/cycling/346/

Thanks! I honestly cannot wait to get out there and adventure! I really hope the weather lightens up (:
Chichester looks brilliant in those links! Will definitely have to give it a proper look (:
One of the reasons I was worried about remoteness is that the Moonlander attracts a lot of attention (unfortunately) and I’m very worried about getting it getting stolen off me, I’m not of a very big build either…

For the North Downs route to the sea I outlined above, there is a station at Otford which you can get to from Victoria or St Pancras. Generally OK to take a bike on board outside peak commuter times.
Navigation for that is actually pretty easy – the Pilgrims way is pretty well waymarked and pretty much sticks close to the ridge of the North Downs all the way to the coast.

The problem with trains is that they are unlawfully expensive! And I really wanted to ride all the way to be honest, but thanks for the heads up. A well waymarked route actually sounds fantastic.

OP, the South of England is a crowded place, finding something really remote is going to take some effort but it’s possible. Have a look at this thread as an FYI, you can do these rides after taking the train London/Poole or link it up with the IOW ride I suggested linking Lymington to Poole by train over a weekend.

It’s funny how it is. Cornwall, even though it is very well known, is unbelievably isolated in some places. I really want to go there for a week, but train costs are ungodly!!!! Thanks for the heads up but I really wanted to ride all the way (:

Your LBS is lying. (IMHO). I’m at two inches taller than you and I’d think twice about a medium ECR. I know it’s all a personal thing but I do wonder if you’d get on better with a smaller bike. The fat tyres do produce a bit more drag but a fatbike can still make an effective tourer. Have you considered running narrower rims and tyres? It surely has to be more easy rolling than a Moonlander!

First of all, thanks! I’ve been struggling with the ECR for quite sometime and I appreciate your helpful input (: It is seriously long, not so much the seattube, but more the top tube, I find it really hard to reach the bars with a 50mm stem in an upright position, unless I bend my back into (hate doing so) or use the fingertips of one hand stop the bike swerving, I really think there’s something wrong here! I agree with that too, and to be honest, offroad touring, I much, much prefer riding fatbikes. I have spent £50+ on some specialised tyres at my LBS (the very same) and to be honest, it changed the whole gearing, and I really didn’t like it. I am honestly really enjoying the Moonlander at the moment, I have a Mukluk and an ECR but the Moonlander is just a combination of the two! It’s brilliant, though for touring I kinda wish I could run 4″ tyres well on it. Not too sure what I’m going to do with the ECR to be honest, the Moonlander has a similairly long top tube. Maybe try rotating the stem? It’d look borderline retarded but might work? (:

Yup, almost no riding around the parc whatsoever, Woburn is very small too. I just bought a Fit bike co. bmx off ebay for £50 and took that. Strangely, my sister hired a bike from there, and it seemed someone had taken it when she was swimming…

First of all, just wanted to say thanks to everyone for replying! I mean it and to be honest I didn’t expect you all to be this kind or helpful! I’ve now got several places and a ton of info! So thanks (: and I do apologise for the long post, I like to try and reply to everyone since you know, you’ve made an effort to reply to me (:

We don’t really do ‘Ocean’ in the UK! Its the Sea!
Anyway there is a ‘sort of’ off road route to Brighton, via Richmond area I believe. Someone will come along soon and confirm.

Haha I like the sound of Ocean more rather than ‘seaside which sounds a bit ‘naff ;D
Ooh wow, that sounds really good! I really don’t think I could do it on the road, an entire offroad route sounds really good though!!

OP @rewski from here has done rides down to the South Coast from London (Croydon area I recall), cross North Downs then South Downs to end up around Shoreham somewhere. You can get to Chichester (some nice coast/dunes at West Whittering or little harbour at Bosham) via Guildford and then the downslink which is a disused railway line. OI am not sure there is too much remote coast within 100 miles of London. With a bit of planning you can get the train back to London fairly easily.

Thanks I will check that route out! (:Just looked up North Downs, it looks amazing!! But not too sure about Shoreham…:S Chichester does look quite nice though! I’m not too sure about how remote it is. Maybe remote isn’t such a good idea anyway for a first ride.

margate. definitely margate.

Not sure if serious, it seems to be a popular touristy area… bleugh. And they went there in Only fools! :S

You’ll end up on the Isle of Sheppey, which is nice if you like chavs, caravan parks and prisons.
The coast north of Britlingsea is nice (IMO), but probably a couple of days ride on a fatty, so take camping kit. Head for Wales on the train if you want remote coast.

ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Those are EXACTLY the kind of places I wanted to avoid!!!!!!!!! You are my savior good sir! Brightlingsea looks okay I guess, is it really as nice as you can find in the south east? It’s still quite far.. I’ve the Pembrokeshire coast, it looks utterly breathtaking!! I wanna ride there though ;P I really, really want to ride to cornwall but I just don’t think that’d be possible (300 miles) on a 5” fatbike without a direct offroad route. Fatties are a pain in the backside to ride on the road, but off it, they just flow.

google London to Brighton off road route – it’s a good a start as any, you can vary at the end to hit between Brighton or Chichester Harbour, as above. [Edit – or Portsmouth Harbour and the ferry to the IoW] Depends how long a ride you want? 75 miles to Brighton, from the L2B start at Roehampton, a bit less to Shoreham.
The Downs Link section might not be the most interesting ride you’ve done on a fattie, but it’s off road and it’s straight and quick. You might need to make your own fun, though, or be happy to get some thinking done!

I definetely will! It sounds like the best option at the moment. 75 miles sounds easier than a 100 too! As long as it’s offroad, I’m happy! Plus I got my music (:

Hop on a short (1 hour) train ride to Essex, Shoeburyness would be ideal, then within a mile of the station you’ll be in beautiful, remote (as in nobody else there, not distance) coastal Essex, with dunes, mudflats, rivers, estauaries, seals, birds and boats. You can then fiddle your way along the coast and all around Suffolk and Norfolk, depending on your timescales.

Wow, that sounds really good. Probably won’t do it for a first long ride though. How come there’s no one there? Very curious…

With an initial train-assist you could put together a route from SE london / Kent borders down to the coast via the Kent end of the North Downs Way and Pilgrims Way – this would be on a combination of bridleways and quiet lanes.
It would go something like Otford > Cuxton via North Downs / Pilgrims Way then swing South over the Medway bridges to pick up the North Downs Way again the other side. Keep on following the Pilgrims Way south via Charing / Wye etc (option here for a side trip to Canterbury / Whitstable). Eventually you’ll hit the edge of Folkestone. From there turn West towards Hythe (Sustrans 2 I think?). Divert out to Dungeness (not conventionally beautiful but interesting all the same – it’s Britain’s only desert – Pilot Inn is a great pub) before heading over for some fat bike fun in the dunes at Camber Sands. Rye would be a good overnight spot (lovely medieval town with some cracking pubs) before pushing on via Winchelsea, Pett Level and Fairlight to Hastings. Train back to London from there.
I’ve ridden most of the above in short stages when I lived down that way – PM me if you want further info. Kent and Sussex have some lovely areas and loads of bridleways – much underrated for biking.
I now live in Devon though, which I have to say knocks pretty much anywhere in the SE into a cocked hat as far as coastal scenery is concerned!

That sounds very interesting. I’ll have to look it up on a map when I have a bit more time! When you say intial train assist, where do you mean to? I am 17 and I have never really been in a pub before though tbh. Thank you! I will definitely have to check it out. In a few weeks I’ll reply to this thread with which route I’m going? Though I doubt anybody cares lol.
Is Devon that nice? I’ve never been to Devon, but I will never forget going to cornwall last summer. Going on an adventure to find the ocean, riding miles and miles(only about 5 or 6 haha) with it getting steeper and steeper, the wind getting stronger and then coming up to a set of fields on cliffs, at what seemed like worlds end. And as I cycled to it, the bit behind me looked like that old windows xp wallpaper, the landscape grass one. Truly amazing!!! Is there not much like that near me?

Could you follow the Thames down to the Estuary, not the most picturesque but would be a good bit of exploring.

Woah, Estuary looks amazing. Or is it just because google has aerial views? Either way, sounds like a fun adventure!! I’ll add to my list ;)

Hoo is quite close and feels a million miles from civilisation

From google images, it looks almost abandoned! I’m kinda scared haha. It looks very interesting though.

So’s Sheppey, feels like the end of the world, but in different way (actualy there are some nice bits, I have Bivi’d there).

Sheppey looks very, very nice!! Will have to see if there’s any routes to it!

Sheppey deservedly gets a bit of a bad rep

What do you mean deservedly? What’s wrong with Sheppy!!

[qupte] You can reach pretty much anywhere it depends on how much navigation and planning you are prepared to do. The Grand Union Canel heads N.W out of London and from there links up with other canels / rights of way. Or Thames path west and link up, keep going until you reach the Atlantic.[/quote]
The thing is, on the fatbike it’s only fun riding offroad on trails and such. On the road, it’s no fun at all. The grand union canal is very close to me, did 30 miles on it a few weeks ago (there and back)! It’s really fun to ride, almost like endless singletrack. It’s pretty much what inspired me to go really far! I’ll have to look up how it links with other canals, thanks for that (: Really wanted to ride into central London, never done that before so that’s on the list for summer!

How long are you looking to take for this?
I’d head towards Brighton. Use things like the Downs Link and Cuckoo Trail, get onto the South Downs Way at Jevington, head towards Stanmer Park, then drop into Brighton, which has a cycle way into the centre of town. Easy train home too.
The views oft the he coast from the SDW are great.

Not more than a day’s ride hopefully. Was going to leave at first light.
That sounds like a very straightforward route, thanks! It sounds great! I’m awfully excited, be a lovely adventure (:

Just wanted to say thanks for the helpful advice everyone (: And the reason I really wanted to protect the paint on my fatbike is that it has a gorgeous finish (space black) black with sort of sparkles so it looks like outer space. I really, really like it, it looks really magical. I just wanted to the finish to last I guess. And thanks for the kind words, managed to do it succesfully by going around the brazeons (:

The blog looks utterly amazing, the pictures are stunning. I can’t wait to read it all! As a recent owner of an ECR who’s bought it do exactly what you’re doing, it’s inspiring too. Thanks for sharing (:

Thanks for the info Northwind, will be picking up a Gusset bb!

Thanks for the reply Scotroutes (: It is a medium and I’m 5″5 but my LBS reckons it’s fine. They tell me it’s just bad because of the fat tyres :(

ton, if you don’t get an ECR I shall have to.

I have an ECR yet I find it slow and overtly stiff to the point where I prefer to ride my Moonlander for 15 miles. Am I doing something wrong? I really, really wanted to love it.

I just meant proper technique…a knife isn’t exactly going to do a clean cut.

would get a grown up to use anything that is sharper than the tape.

Comments about my old posts? Should I just like um leave? Seems like a lot of you seem to have something against me.

Does anyone have any reccomendations on standalone lights? Just going to get the Nitecore charger but man the batteries are expensive at £14 each for the 18650 3100mAh…

@Nach that is some amazing advice thanks! So just buy the light on their own and buy decent battery and charger seperately? Really good tip on the chargers being falsley stamped with the CE standard! Have you got any links for the batteries and charger? Will look out for a Nitecore charger. I’m guessing I should go with a Solarstorm light or will any do? And tanks again!! that post was really really helpful!!

Seems it is chainslap, thanks Jason! (:

Thank you! (:

Thank you fellow padawans! but it says registration is closed so I can’t even try once?!

I thought they were the best out there, are they not?

@Tom that TfTuned option sounds really good, but I can’t seem to find it on their site?

Thanks for the reply yup, would my lbs be able to do it?

As an owner of an ECR, I’m so jealous of the longitude. I want one now! It costs less new than my used ECR frameset did :(

Heard nothing but good stuff about Atomlab rims, that picture is hard to look at :$

24 Bicycles made some amazing frames imo, ridiculous names and pricing however! Still trying to find a Pornking!

Wish Nokian would bring the Gazzalodi’s back, they are very missed!

I just wish the Jones Loops weren’t so expensive :(

Was just going to mention the ECR! I just built one, but I can’t offer any experience since I haven’t actually been anywhere on it yet :$ I can offer pictures though! :D I built it up to be ideal adventure bike, and while it one hell of a machine, I find it really hard to ride still. I think it’s just like cruiser bike. If you go slowly on it you could ride for miles on end! But I am talking slow…

@Mamadirt Wow that loooks awesome :O One hell of a bike ;) And I can’t believe that you’re 5″2, I’m 5″5, I think I just need to man the **** up haha xD