Will someone please deactivate Drac's Report Post button, or at the very least take it away for a service.

Rocketdog – that's one of the funniest things i've read in a while.

ro – all the best posters get complaints made against them and end up getting banned. Place is full of thousands of uptight people with around a dozen decent folk on it at the very most.

Owned them. And a few years on an off. Much prefer a high powered car that handles well. Taken both on to tracks and car wins hands down for me.

People need to find the limits of their vehicle, only then can they know what the safety margins are and you can only do that on a track. Once you do that you will never want to go like the bars of hell on a road again.

The bikes may be good, but there are a hell of a lot of people going around at Carl Fogarty speeds without 1% of Carl Fogarty's skills.

TJ – Yes. GSXR750, ZX6R and something completely different in a Virago 1100.

Bet they are proper dirties too.

THe things you see when you've not got a gun.

What scheme is it?

This bollocks about car drivers not understanding the safety margins that bikers have travelling at high speed is utter bollocks. Not only that, it is insulting and ignorant bollocks. I have ridden a few fast bikes at obscene speeds on roads and there is very very little safety margin and i have good motorbike handling skill to back it up.

That unpleasant smell is the stench of Tory rule.

Good sensible man.

look up maitland mobilisations and give some grade 2s a go on that joint see if they take the pain away.

Some people dont half talk a load of balls about GT and Inners.

timothius – do not give any of that a go other than what i said. As a new driver you will not have the observation skills to be able to play with the pedals to see what they do AND keep on top of what is happening outside of the car. You WILL start looking at what your feet are doing.

Go onto http://www.Adiforum.co.uk and get some proper advice from some qualified professionals.

Well that would appear to be my cover well and truly blown. 😉

P.S. FergusD cant drive for toffee. A debate that we have had in depth in the past.

you remember when you were a kid way back in the olden days and your mother tied your mittens through the sleeves of your jacket on a piece of string. Think of something along those lines. During a gear change – If one pedal is going down the other is coming up and vice versa. Never only one pedal being worked during a gear shift.

Matt – looking at the map and doing the route in reverse – head south from the dam at the end of loch lyon to glen lochay make your way home from there.

I shall be doing mine later this evening. Pure and simply because I need to apply lots and lots of taping to my legs and it hurts to pull that stuff of hairy legs.

there is also one goes from killin too ton mate. google earth shows it.

Dont drive fast between the two. I may be riding along that road.

Get some playdough type stuff and strengthen the muscles in your thumb.

Inners, but head back up to the shortcut for a 2nd lap then head to the top of something like the gold run for an easy dh trail.

This thread is useless without pictures. 😉

I now know what ro stands for.

No hijacks thanks. I am talking about the multilap couple of hour long races here.

Aye, but remember Cadel Evans has been at that level in mtb before, Lance never was.

Nowt wrong with Nobby Nics. Keep them on it.

Spesh Fast Traks.

Ditch the tent and go for something like a rab storm bivvy.

We are mere specs of dust in the sands of time, go do something that you want to do and don't worry about the consequences because when it comes down to it even if it does go tits up nothing truly bad will happen. And if it doesn't go tits up then you are living your dreams.

It's all good.

aka-Gilo – you are mistaken in your assumption that I am concerned for your well being. All I care about is my own personal safety and that of my friends and family. You go and kill yourself if you want, but please try not to take anyone else out with you.

You have proven my point about the rider course that you went on being shit too. Motor skills are easy to learn and to teach. It's the cognitive ones that are way more important though.

Truly magnificent event. The atmosphere was not unlike a singlespeed event in that it was incredibly laid back and folk were just there to ride bikes.

I would like to thank everyone who asked if I as OK when I fell off my bike sideways at the bottom of the last long grassy climb and didn't get up. I was comfy and couldn't be bothered to move. 😀

I have been a liverpool fan for 26yrs and cant stand the guy.

aka_Gilo, you seem to need to do a bit of growing up with regards speeding on public roads. What would happen if say a bird or a rabbit appeared on the road and you hit it at 120mph? You'd probably be dead. How good are you at spotting diesel, pot holes or patches of gravel at 120mph? I'll be not very good – hit any of that lot and you will end up dead. You dont tend to get any of them on race tracks, everyone tends to be going the same way and there is immediate life support on hand too.

The copper if caught doing that now would probably face prison too.

Lots of the towns and villages in the Borders and D&G have common riding ceremonies and series of events each year where they have loads of activities under the banner of inspecting the parish boundaries on horseback. The Tub will be the person that leads the inspection of the boundaries.

Real good excuse for a fortnight long piss up come riot.

That copper was quite clearly a bell end and should have lost his job and his licence for doing that. High speeds are for the track. Going like f*** on the road is incredibly selfish behaviour.

If we're going to start with the puns – Doesnt sound like the brightest of sparks that lad. Needs brought down to earth too.

TJ are you sure? It's just that my sources tell me that you cant get to a decent level on two days training.

So it wasnt even remotely close to being of an advanced level. More like pass plus in car driving terms.

That is below mincing. That there is a gentle slop with plenty of grip and you just rode to the top of it and stopped.

Police advanced training – hmmm. That'll make you a serving or former traffic cop. I smell a whole heap of Arbroath Smokie coming off that one.