With efficiency being a ratio of output/input they are both exactly as efficient as each other. If you start pulling up on the pedals with spds then you are putting more in so will obviously get more out. One turn of the pedals done at the same speed in the same gear on the same gradient still takes the same effort and gives you the same forward propulsion.

Depends what speed you're doing.

what about nipples and cleats?

incapacity benefit. probably means that she is not fit for work. plenty of people that outwardly appear to be fit for work are far from it.

E_L – good technical term that one.

Think if comes from the same text book as the one that gives us "big **** off" as a unit of measure. 😀

Cannae really beat gusset though can you.

trail_rat – in that case, how much quicker would sam hill be if he ran spds. 😀

I should point out that there is none left in Galashiels – it's all in my fridge.

How about some of the tax dodging scum?

well thats my riding sorted for tomorrow.

I suspect that allthepies has been drinking cheap cider instead of good beer for cheap and had dribbled pee on his shoes. And that's why they smell pee in Aldi. 😉

epicyclo – this thread was inspired by you. It was good chatting on the way up that long grassy climb on saturday afternoon. Bike walking is a great sport.

Inspired by Fred's Obi_Wan emails….

I run them on olympic rims and they seat easily with a track pump. Pretty much as easy as fitting a tubed tyre. Never had any problems with them. Wont use anything else now.

Captains grip like doodoo to a blanket.

Go look at specialized's range of tyres. Best VFM I have found and they are brilliant bits of rubber.

It's the combinations I'm asking about here.

Lets face it Jimmy nae pals supersolo 24hr rigid ss with daft bars is the sign of true deviation.

Dammit – forgot the 29er….

How about a trip into the lomond hills? Also, if you look in that cicerone guide closely enough you will see a certain GLuptons name in there somewhere.

Bikes is bikes.

Not if you like riding singlespeed it wouldnt. I ride singlespeed simply because I like riding singlespeed. I have geared bikes but they never get used much.

First one will be a double snow roads and the 2nd one will be the Only for Softies one from Edinburgh.

GLupton was riding SS and had great time. So he tells me.

32:22 on a 26" bike would be the perfect way to go. Descents are of the pump like buggery and non pedalling variety.

If you are going to the 3B take a bike. Ochils?

Sneaky until it detonates perhaps….

I better start my training.

Dont listen to any of that up there apart from what I said.

It's debatable. Land set aside for a particular purpose is exempt.

That is a work of genius. Driver clearly wasnt focussed enough though.

You will get very few people taking you for an intensive course now as they dont really work.

A far better and much more successful option is to go for the couple of hours a day, every day over a number of weeks.

I will apologise for calling you a troll.

epicyclo – do you have a limit to the levels of deviance you go to?

Gutless engine and build quality is pretty crap for the money.

fbk – before you dismiss it you should know that it is one of the cornerstones of physiotherapy. Try that and the playdough type stuff and see what happens. Worked for me.

Drac – thought you'd given me enough attention. Can't help yourself can you. Always got to get the last word in.

Didn't want to kill himself on the Zoncolan.

No Drac, I could but just cant be bothered to. And yes, we never really did get along.

IanMunro – I have absolutely no idea what the hell you are on about.

I have a Chariot Corsaire XL thing and would say that yes it is worth the money. Basing this on it being one of the very few with a proper seat in it and the build quality is fantastic.

Seems pretty playful and original to me. And dare I say that if I wasnt a member of mensa then it might be pretty intelligent too.

Drac – aye right. I am not going to give you direct quotes but lets just say that i've been here long enough to know what you're all about.

Rocketdog – nope.

Banter: Supple term used to describe activities or chat that is playful, intelligent and original. Banter is something you either posses or lack, there is no middle ground.

Why do post have to be constructive or benefit someone in some way?

Drac – thanks for presenting me with the opportunity to use a unique double positive – aye right. You are always gurning because people have upset you. A lesson you need to learn is that just because you dont agree with someone it doesnt mean that they are wrong.