Here is a rough map of the better of the two routes.

When you are at Innerleithen XC just follow the XC route until you get to the top of Minch Moor then turn right at the first split in the descent.

If you let me know when you are heading over I may be able to show you round the place if I'm not busy.

Route length is roughly 35 miles but it is far from being flat – at a guess 7000-8000ft of ascent. Descents are fantastic though.

Trying to avoid asking if your wife is a chav. Are you a chav? 😉

I just wish that they wouldnt smooth it out quite so much when they do resurface it.

You know those commons petition things that never get responded to. One of you should start one of them.

There were at least 3 UK nationals on the boat that was attacked.

I am with IA on GT being the easiest of the 7Stanes reds. Much much less technical than Kirroughtree or even Inners.

A class mate of mine is setting out to have a crack at beating that new record, if it is set, in two weeks time. She is mental.

Yip. Black section is closed due to forest harvesting.

Speak to Jedi. He is a truly magnificent coach.

Once saw a box of frogs.

Aggressive XC, that's a funny one. Is that where you headbutt all the rocks and trees and stuff? Or do you just ride like a pissed of knob and swear at folk as you pass?

It's somewhere between darkside and jeycore lite i think.

I am slowly realising that if my asthma kicks off it's because I haven't been drinking enough. Similar condition to yours. Nasal strips dont work.

Zaskar – I know and share that pain. The annoying bint that was on before Wogan was just depressing.

But it's going to be light for a good 3 hours yet.

When are you going to have an away day trip?

Look onto the middle of next week and outside foot down.

So – can anyone summarise the 120 posts above? And perhaps also give us a bit of an insight into the legal position of Israel and the UN etc.

Or perhaps better and shorter would be: Start Selkirk, do Duchess Drive, descend to Yarrowford, climb up Minch Moor road, turn left at the top, do a lap of Inners, then head back along Southern Upland Way to 3 Brethren and descend to Selkirk from there.

Merida route from last year is a good route, but instead of taking the descent through Broadmeadows youth hostel continue on to the 3 Brethren and descend back towards selkirk down corbie Linn. There are a couple of other variations that you could do too. Post back on here and I'll describe them to you.

Aye, and I've done 300km with 5000m ascent at 24kph, with absolutely no towing, with a dodgy back in the pissing rain. 😀

300km at 28kph – is that willy waving i see before me?

Whatever you do, don't say get whatever ring you want without setting a budget. Custom designed platinum with a flawless diamond is what she chose. Could have bought a VERY nice bike for that.

Somebody please give the dude some tyres that they have lying around for postage costs.

Wondered how long it would take someone to shout troll. My point is that if mot other countries pulled the stunts that Israel do they would be bombed to **** in two seconds flat. World is ruled by a shower of asshats.

Is it ironic that if he'd simply not bothered trying to claim rent that none of this would have happened and he could have stayed in the closet?

grade 1 AC separation – mtfu and get back riding.

You ask the question what would I buy. I give you the answer no bling bolts on my bikes because I'm not a tart.

fair bit.

Run a bulldozer down it. Or remove all the woodwork.

Yip. Course finished in the field. Course is getting dismantled tomorrow unfortunately.

Ben Cathro won, Lewis Buchanan 2nd.

I have had them for years. I also have the very nice pleasure of having one lazy eye that I cannot even read with, Cannot even do the top line of the chart at the opticians.

Thought it was pish. Pish course, pish atmosphere, pish course designer and pish organiser. Basically it was a load of pish. 😉

Go for it. I love doing stuff like that. It makes life fun.

Tape the bugger up and you'll be fine. I would love to accompany you lot for the day between new lanark and carlisle.

All the student halls are kicking folk out for the summer this weekend. They rent rooms out on a weekly basis over the summer.

You know what I truly hate on the UK roads – every F**ker thinking that its a competition.

Only problems i had with Juicys were the 7's calipers which were made of cheese. Now run the 7 levers with 3 calipers and they are an astoundingly good set of brakes. Have elixirs on the other bike and they have given no problems so far.

I had the misfortune to have one as a company vehicle for a year a number of years ago where it was taken seriously off road every day. Compared to any of the decent Japanese offroaders they are crap off road too.