I’m tempted to try a stack similar to the boxxer setup, a linear stack. I don’t often use the rtc3 knob, but I guess the switch will kinda still work with extra preload the lock setting adds.

I feel I need less LSC but slightly more HSC as I’m using slightly more travel than I’d expect.

Am I right in thinking that going from an 8mm to a 10mm clamp on an 18mm straight stack, adds about 20% onto the stack?

I’ve read all the threads above thanks, I think I’ll try dropping the ring shim down a few steps first, then if that doesn’t work removing it all together but stiffening the stack with a larger clamp shim.

I was thinking about getting and Andreani piston, but it’s £190 delivered from Italy which seems a bit steep! I just had the thought of whether it’s possible to reverse engineer it and copy it with a 3d printer…

Sorry, I didn’t make myself clear. I was talking about modifying the compression shim stack to reduce damping, the fork feels ok, just a bit harsh over roots / rock gardens. It doesn’t feel as supple as previous coil forks.

Did try a modded shim stack on your pike?

I’ve recently put a TF tuned coil in and I’ve noticed that the fork seems over damped and had come to exactly the same conclusions. I’ve thought about moving the ring shim one or two positions back from the piston face.

Just wondering if it’s worth a go.

Cheers

MisterCrud – Member
I frickin’ love my DB Ranger (Shimano 8000). Paid full price for it, ride the hell out of it. Did 20 miles in swamp-like conditions on singletrack, North York Moors, yesterday. Took me 2 hours with full boost! Came back shattered, and I’m pretty fit.

Plus, 3 mid-aged guys I know in Pickering go riding in a group, hard off-road, with Ebikes, they are all out of shape. All ex-moto enduro riders. They all work 50-60 hrs a week, and would not ride a normal bike, it’s just too hard if you can’t put the hours in.

Everyone is different. For me, I’m riding like I’ve just discovered MTB again. Uphill singletrack at 15mph is just so much fun.

And that is why e-mtbs are going to cause access problems for the rest of us actual mountain bikers.

We use our local roaster here – Carvetii

The lake districts finest. Very nice coffee.

if they had hired ordinary bikes and still rode up Whinlatter, would they be any less terrified? they might have been even more at risk, riding down the technical trails knackered ?

My point was that ebikes make trails more accessible. That has both good and bad sides.

In that particular example I’m not sure a complete novice would get up the climb, or at least they would certainly question if they were experienced enough.

I met a family on hired ebikes at the top of Whinlatter red the other day, they were looking a bit terrified at the prospect of riding down something even slightly technical. The easy climb (on an ebike) obviously didn’t prepare them for the difficult bit!

I still can’t make my mind up if it’s a good thing that they were out on a bike in the first place, or bad that it is an accident waiting to happen.

Does anyone know what the difference is between the solo kit and dual position in terms of functionality.

The dual position ‘version’ is just because they add a solo air spring shaft in the package, nothing more. They both convert to the same functionality from different starting points. If that makes sense!

Be wary of the edge 25… I’ve got one and the battery isn’t very good, a big day out on the bike will finish it off. You can only upload a route using Garmin connect so it’s a bit of a pain. The gps accuracy isn’t great either and the lack of a 1 second recording mode means that it’s not great for tracking twisty MTB trails. It just puts a straight line through everything. The 25 would be fine for a road bike tho.

The lezyne super GPS or micro GPS is probably better for what you want, you can modify the route on the go using your phone and it has 1 second recording. It’s cheaper too!

Just had a play on the newly converted coil pikes, amazingly plush and so much better on my hands than the dual position spring it replaced. Not sure which spring to run, one gives 23% and one 19% (without a rucksack) so I expect I’ll have to move to the stiffer coil with a heavy pack. It feels like a much better performing fork already and I’ve not really got it set up 100% yet.

How do the decathlon jackets size up? Ta!

Does anyone know what the rahox pads are like? Expensive, but if they are much better than uberbike pads I’d be interested.

We use the monthly flea tablets on the cats, much easier than spot on. Less stress for the cats and less scratches for us! We’ve not had any flea problems since. Previously advantage spot on and indorex, always seemed to half work and the little buggers would still appear 3 months later

Same ride as chakaping. Good fun!

Have they added a 1 second recording mode? It’s the only thing I thought was missing.

Ebikes aren’t any faster than normal bikes yet you covered twice the distance in the same riding time? Is that all through not needing to rest as much??

Cool thanks for the psa

I think being able to take a couple of demo bikes out to get the feel for things, then being able to say “I liked this, but didn’t like this. This felt too short, this was too long” put the details back into the machine to get a recommendation from practically every manufacturer in the world would be fantastic.

I like idea of a proper bike fit, enter the details into a computer and get 10 bikes that would fit well. Fair enough it would be easier with road bikes, but it would take the risk out a little.

If they set it up, exchange parts and 6 week service that would be ace too!

Maybe I misunderstood, but I thought there was only a one position coil spring. The TF coil conversion has two versions depending if you’re? converting a solo air or a dual position.

Saved about £2k and with conversion / bike rack, i figured I wouldn’t use it that much!

The rain up here very rarely falls vertically, so barn doors normally give you a bit more protection anyway!

I find the strada a cracking bit of kit, I much preferred the bikes inside, but camper conversion kinda ruled that out unfortunately!

There is a bit of a knack to it, I was a bit downbeat about it for a while (I’d got so used to throwing the bike in the van) but you get used to it and it only takes a couple of minutes.

Rubber_Buccaneer – Member
I can’t see the weight being much different from one kit to another, mostly it’s a spring.

The dual position kit may be more expensive because it needs a new aircap and the solo air possibly doesn’t

You said earlier in the thread that the CRC spring added 150g to a dual position pike. TF tuned reckon their spring is 500g or 300g more than a solo air spring assembly. I can’t see why there would be such a difference either, hence my question.

The kit comes with its own topcap, it doesn’t reuse the topcap from the solo air spring, so still not sure why the dual position is £26 more expensive. Seems a bit weird!

I have the atera strada and it works fine with the barn doors on my T5. It can be a bit tight getting past the bikes, but once you open out the barn door to open past 90degrees then there is plenty of room.

Out this afternoon

And last Friday

Cheesy bushes??

I’ve the same experience with the v12s. Bearing still like new, but bushes knackered. Grease them up every 3 rides or the rattle gets on your nerves. Spares kit is £25, don’t think you can buy the bushes separate. Unless someone knows the dimensions?

It’s 300g heavier than the solo air spring. That’s more than the CRC conversion kit I think.

Also does anyone know why the dual position version is £26 more expensive?

Very tempted!

I prefer the doubledown aggressor to the tough 2.2 trail boss, it lighter, rolls about the same but corners much better.

I found the trail boss a little small and to get the cornering grip had to lower the air pressure too much. I’ve a few dents in the rim to show for it…

The aggressor seems a really good match to the minion dhf on the front, which isn’t a surprise at all as that’s what it was designed for.

I went from a Sony z1 compact to a xiaomi Redmi 3s prime, about a 1/4 the retail price of a z3 compact, but much better in every way apart from maybe the camera (which good rather than excellent).

No problems with it being a Chinese phone as everything was in English, Google was installed etc… if I lost it, I’d buy another Xiaomi to replace it.

Wouldn’t access improve once a gazillion people jump on e-bikes? We’ll need more trails, Yes peas and thankyou.

Trail centres didn’t pop up because a few of us were out in the woods, these places appeared because of the mass increase in riders.

That would be great, although we’re not entirely short of places to ride up here… BikeParkLakes!

Good point though, although I think we’d have better chance of expanding legal access without ebikes. We shall see I guess.

You could then realise that’s not solved the problem.
And think “ok, we’d best ban bikes too”

Great idea

That’s kinda my point and pretty much my only concern about ebikes.

It’s a fun topic to discuss, I don’t have a huge problem with ebikes other than the ease of derestricting and the potential effect on the other people we share the trails with lumping us all into one group of mountain bikers and trying to get us all banned

We can’t selectivly stop knobs from posting utter shite on web forums so we should ban web access for everyone just to make sure

Good call! :D

And they can also buy non ebikes, and ride it like a loon with no regard for horses, walkers or baby robins.
All to the same effect as a nob on an ebike.

Exactly. But unlikely to be found riding at a busy Degla on a sunny Sunday afternoon like in the OP.

Is it fair to treat every ebiker with suspicion that they are riding a derestricted ebike? When there is no way of actually knowing?

Not really. No

My point was that it’s very difficult to tell whether an ebike is an ebike. Just because it looks like an ebike doesn’t actually mean it’s legal to ride and the only way of finding out is interrogating the firmware.

Let’s face it, if you’re a knob and recently paid the best part of £5k for an ebike you’re probably going to get it derestricted and probably ride like a knob, much faster than the rest of us.

Which will increase tensions with those we currently share the trails with and affect all of us, whether we ride ebikes or not.

We can’t stop knobs from riding bikes, but we can stop knobs from riding really fast ebikes by banning ebikes.

No.
Only an idiot would describe an e-bike as a motorbike; motorbikes don’t have pedals.

Genuine question… What is a derestricted ebike categorised as? A moped/motorbike?

So an electric bike and an electric moped might actually look identical in every way, the only way of knowing is to examine the installed firmware?

Easy to see why some people think ebikes = motorbikes

+1 the experience above. I found the trail boss to be a bit lacking, not quite enough cushion or pointy bits for the riding I do (lakes) I moved to the wtb Breakout, which is a little more aggressive.

The vigilante high grip and breakout fast rolling were a good combo although I found they like to drift a little, but in a controlled and fun way.

I find the shorty a bit scary on rocks or hardpack, it drifts too easily and suddenly for me. In conditions with something to bite into it is really really good.

I’ve a xiaomi Redmi 3, no hassle at all. I bought it from aliexpress, the seller put the European firmware on it, which includes Google play store.

I normally fiddle with custom ROMs etc, I’ve not bothered as miui8 is so good.

So in answer to your question, it’s no hassle at all.

I don’t see a reason it couldn’t be left in indefinitely if it is not causing any discomfort

Is there a risk of the chip finding its way into the joint? Or is this one of those things that although could happen, rarely does?

I can imagine if it did, it could make a mess of things…!