be brave, Ghostie it ;)

V-brake pads here. it’s cool though I’ll just be using one brake in the meantime. 8)

not strong at all. especially if they are J-bend, George.

not a wise choice. even less so if you’re not featherweight yourself.

Marin were just the Santa Cruz of their day. Bronsons and Nomads will go the same way in about 4 years.

Er.. Which day are you talking about? Not the Day back around 1987/8 George Pennel imported the UK’s first batch (along with the first Kona’s) I hope?
Comparing the first Bear Valleys to the first Tazmons I could forgive, but comparing Bronsons and Nomads to Mount Visions and B-17s is just crazy talk. 8)

Any why would he need to do that…?

He? Ha ha.. No, no.. You misunderstand completely. I was not referring to “him”. I’ve no idea whether the owner of this particular bicycle has the skill or confidence to ride a WC DH track on a rigid V-brake shod bicycle or not. I do know of someone claiming to have no inherent issues with this bike who doesn’t though. ;)

Thought Enduro racers* were meant to ride their bikes as fast as possible down each stage, not stop, run down the steep, rocky or slightly rooty parts

*excluding those taking part for the spirit/craic/#Fashion. Obvs. ;)

There’s been no real shift away from street riding.. it’s just not watered down by daft large wheeled bikes, gears or stupidly powerful brakes anymore.
MTB Dirt Jumping has finally gone in the right direction IMO with riders like Aggy and Lacondeguy pushing and building ridiculous FMX style trails.
BSX/4X was only ever properly popular in the South of the UK where there are very few places suitable for DH (and now Enduro).
Fashion means it won’t stop folk turning up to Chicksands on Capra’s and Spectrals.. it’s definitely an improvement from their Demos and V-10s. ;)

know what you’re saying but from the stack n reach figures the Med Scout is already an inch longer than my current short travel FS and my DH bike which are both as long as I’d ever want (these run 40mm and 45mm stems respectively) my every day hardtail is yet another inch shorter again (2″ shorter than the scout) again this has a 40mm stem. I’m extremely fussy and know what I like so will know very quickly whether the Medium size suits what I’m after or not.

Pity about the stickers but I think I could live with them.

wherever they’ll let me.. often where their husbands won’t

Azonic has some new stuff. nothing too interesting though.

I frequently take 2 wives, never been married myself.

do you know where yours are?… are you sure? ;)

Iron horse
They’re just a defunct brand, not sure I’d say they were “of their time”, in that they didn’t innovate and got left behind or owt, they just didn’t sell many bikes!

lol.

P-Jay and NJee, Guessing Cully and the rest of original Iron horse team of the early 80s were before your time?

Cully (Dave Cullinan) was an absolute Legend! look him up! as far as I’m concerned, nothing Cully does isn’t worth reading about. and look up the early history of Iron Horse bikes while you’re at it.
The Sam Hill/Rennie “flat out” IH glory days and the imergence of the “Sunday” were when IronHorse made their big comeback.

It’s a shame how Iron Horse finally came to an end too (dunno how easy that will be for you to find out about though)

The name “Iron Horse” still lives on. bought by a US sports store chain IIRC and stuck on cheap bikes bearing no resemblance to their heritage.

Yeah, it’s almost as if they just magically appear for us to ride without ever having to even lend a hand or thank anyone, isn’t it? 8)

Sad times :(
first rode cademuir before the old DH track had been finished (mates at the time built it) that must getting on for 20 years ago now. Posts like this make me realise I didn’t ride there nearly enough.
Oh.. well. looking on the bright side, I’m sure sweet new trails will emerge soon enough. 8)

Cheers again Beer. looks a lot better in black. Are the stickers removable or are they lacquered over?
From looking at your pic and using the technically accurate method of placing a ruler over the centre of each wheel axle it does look to have about an inch of BB drop as listed. so nce and low but not crazily so compared to what I’m already used to.
I’m 5’11” and like low slack bikes but hate long bikes. I’m thinking even the medium might be slightly on the long side for me. def thinking about heading to Pedals at some point to find out. Still haven’t ridden one single 650b shod bike I’ve liked the feel of yet. :'(

The problem is Prissy little wussies!

Viz top tip – actually ride your bike and you won’t ever see the outer faces of your crank arms. ride it quickly enough and no one else will either.

might even get round to fixing teh Enduroooo sled I already own.
not like I haven’t had the bearing kit sat here ready to fit for almost a year. ;)

I know the Scout Geometry chart states a 330mm BB height. I’m already used to lower than that. is it actually lower than stated?

Why the big wait?

depends what you’re expecting. You could probably get a complete TCR Composite of that age with 105/ultegra for about half that.

Oooohh…. Thanks Beer. sounds very promising indeed.

I too have always liked to run 30-40% sag on every FS I’ve ever ridden no matter how short travel and like a set-up with good pop. for this reason, I’d always avoided air shocks completely and generally had all my coil shocks tuned to have a firmer midstroke. sounds like this could get pricy.. :)
I’m almost ready to overlook my huge dislike of the slightly bigger wheels here.

hold on.. You’re not some sort of ultra advanced phishing bot out to scam me are you?

ps. keep us updated with how you get on with the post please.

I do hope so

ha ha.. if in doubt buy moar shit ;)

that’s new rims, new tyres, new seatposts, new bars, new grips, a new bike and a course of physio so far. good work guys :lol:

Cheers Doug, Ahsat and Beer247 (you’re kinda saying what i’m wanting to hear Beer).

still sounds to me like the Scout might have suited you better with a firmer shock pressure/setting Ahsat.
I’d heard the debonaire had a similar (or close anyway) spring curve to a coil shock. how true would you say this claim is Beer?

minion semi slick?
non non non…
That Proto side knob design is nothing like a minion’s (they may be similar shaped actual blocks but are spaced much further apart so won’t work the same at all).
there already were minion semi slicks in production… sadly no longer made :(

Kenda BBG is a close contender if you are looking for such awesomeness in a tread design.

choose better lines, manual, jump and pop over everything rough you can. use your knees and hips more.
you’ll need a strong back to do this for prolonged periods, but if you ride a lot of DH you already should have. no?

Cheers for taking the time to write the review ahsat.

unfortunately, your wants and needs couldn’t be further from mine. Can I ask you a few questions about the Scout?

Did you have a shock pump with you? you don’t mention it. and did you play around with shock pressure/compression settings or just ride it the way it left the shop?
How much do pedals charge for a Demo of it? and did they spend any time with yu you to adjust bar position/stem height, shock and fork settings to your taste before you left? (Hard to tell from the pic but the bars look quite high and the saddle awkwardly far forwards)

Oi! :evil:

that top one in da LEG’s pic would be the one.. looks like it was actually designed with some vague attention payed to the edge knob shape/spacing ;)

“Hardly anyone actually races, so why does everyone ride a race bike?”

or for that matter dress up like they might :wink: ..

this new “gravel” biking category just makes me laugh.. where I live many of the roads are absolutely **** farm tracks, even a lot of the actual roads are massively potholed, pitted, rutted covered in muck, stones and farm debris and we’ve been riding them no problem on race bikes and normal rim brakes for as long as I’ve lived.
If you’re not comfortable riding a race bike, fair enough, don’t ride one but don’t go thinking it somehow makes you better than guys who are whether they actually race or not.

it never is, MrNice. :lol:

R500s aren’t “very heavy”
They are just a decently stiff/strong rim traditionally laced with decent no frills spokes to low end but dependable and serviceable hubs.
they are very reliable and as long as they are built nice n tight won’t hold you back in the slightest.
Ksyriums are lighter obviously but you’d be an idiot to spend £500 on wheels for a £300 microshift shod Triban. the whole point in the Triban is it’s entry level price. it’s a bargain ready to ride roadbike, upgrading anything other than the tyres is just false economy.

Now that you know you enjoy road cycling take your time looking for a S/H bargain to replace the Triban with. The beauty of road cycling suddenly becoming hugely popular is that the S/H market is saturated with barely used good quality roadbikes.

deviant nails it!

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ride ’em. you’ll be a far better rider come summer. think of it as a FREE skills course.
they aren’t worn out until there’s no side knob grip.

got 2 here that are dodgy now. been disassembled, cleaned and re-built but similar to yours still aren’t reliable anymore.
can’t complain really after the amount of use/abuse they’ve both seen over the years.

Toshiba satellite I had was pretty sturdy if that helps at all.

I know nothing about laptops either though.

looks a bit big to fit on your bars

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Oh.. no.. That’s the return address, isn’t it?

“old folk with young kids” thread in the bike forum? :roll:

Can’t any of you ever buy anything for your precious l’il ones without debating it to death on here?

I’m not about to tell you what to buy but I have been very impressed with Vredestein’s Fortezza range of tyres for the last couple of years. but like I said above, I have no idea if you ride similar conditions or are anywhere near as heavy or as hard on tyres as I. I don’t require full on race performance or a super lightweight product. My requirements are reliable all weather grip throughout the life of the tyre. good feel. decently low rolling resistance and puncture resistance but above all durability and security. The original question wasn’t about me or my requirements though was it? it was about Continental GP4000s. search online for sidewall failure if you don’t believe there are others with similar experience of them to me.

Great for you Mary. I don’t. just goes to show we’re not all the same and don’t all have the same experience or indeed needs from our tyres. is that 4000 miles between 3 bikes ie. 3 pairs of tyres? or did you mean your GP4S have done 4000? That’s about what I’d expect the tread to last, but a tyre that starts to fall apart well before the tread is worn out is of no use to me.

Rascal, If you found Gatorskins great. Pretty much any race tyre will perform better in every way (other than puncture/cut resistance). Will you notice the improvement? Who knows?
You haven’t given any indication of where you intend riding, what quality of roads, in what conditions or what qualities you even want from a tyre.
stating your weight, preferred tyre width/pressures and how you ride would be even more helpful.

By all means buy the GP4000s (that is a very good price). I’d be making sure I kept my receipt that’s all.