route = start at brewery , through nutthall park to summerseat , accross the lines to greenmount , up through park and right on road towards entwistle, through cheeky shrt-cut and road back of turton tower , up bridleway to top corner of green arms road , through the woods to a666 , hang right up bridleway over to catterys, down to strawberry duck , round a bit of the reservoir and up to crawthawn road, up back of holcombe hill onto moor road , down accross stram and round back of firing range. there will be choices at this stage with tony [ goatster ] can take foolhardy persons down steep stuff, rest of group carry along moor road to buckden woods, some can go down through woods with justme [ graham ], other more sensible persons can come with me[ mart ] robin hoods well ,irwell vale back along the lines and into rammchester on seap