OOOhhhh,

Chris Agrigg as well.. A hill in spain is my favourite by him.

How about Danny Harts world champs run?

I’d say Danny Macaskalls stuff should be part of this(prob spelt wrong btw).

What tony said, and I would do some yoga as well.

Yess!! If I must say it.. lol

Actually i thought of another one, Monster Mash. Can’t remember who it’s by though.

Head to mach and do the Climach-X trail.. you won’t regret it!!

Thanks, mostly into endurance racing (24 or 12 hour races) with some xc.

Why you flying back already?

I don’t know but if was getting a Tom Tom i’d love the Mike Strutter voice on it!

I always used to get everything next day, now it seems to take at least a week.

Me likewise!!

Cheers, went through the pain of taking them all off in the end! I got some help though.

I’d suggest Holiday Inn Camden Lock. Nice sized rooms and a few good places to eat and drink just along the canal below it. An amazing sushi place there if you like sushi! We had a room over-looking the canal which was nice. Not over priced either.

Back in the day, i was about 16.

Looks like the beast actually went for him.

Why no xfactor thread?

Cuz its gay…

Well most people like it but don’t admit to it i think… unless you’re a teenage girl.

Can’t imagine why that could be.

Because some people here are acting like tool bags.

Mods close this down please!!

Gives me chills every time I watch it.

Yeah i watched that darts sketch a few times before and thought it was hilarious… loving the fat bellys. Did you see the ned kelly on henderson and the pie man? :-)

Who else is gonna be watching it then?

When someone raises a finger smile, when they blow their horn impatiently potter on unruffled. And do the same when posting on STW.

Not sure what you’re getting at there.. I get on really well with most fellow mountain bikers. The only ones not so much maybe are ones that came to the sport late and haven’t developed the biker mentality about things yet.

Anyway I think this thread needs to be put to bed, I’m a bit fed up with it and don’t think it’s going anywhere now.

I’m much safer at driving than a lot of people out there..

Your driving is above average? Or is your “lot of people” your mates who straight line roundabouts?

I was talking about said people that cut me off when I’m on the bike, don’t bother signalling at roundabouts (it seems the norm where i live to not bother after you’ve passed your test), pass out at stupid places etc.

I think people training for the test are probably the safest drivers out there… I believe this… after that most people seem to forget everything in the test and drive too fast, don’t bother indicating, change lanes like they own the road, etc.
That’s really rather silly, isn’t it.
You have virtually no experience and yet you feel qualified to make a statement like that Learner drivers may be relatively safe but that is only because there is someone sitting next to them (hopefully) with experience and keeping them right.

How many people do you see nearly cut you off on the bike, rail around roundabouts with no signal, changing lanes nearly causing a crash, mostly drivers with no L plates.. unless theyre learners and just don’t bother using them. Ok so in a lot of cases their old people that might be past it and possibly not allowed drive on the roads, but thats a different debate.

I’m much safer at driving than a lot of people out there..

Which bit? That you are much more likely to die on a country road than a motorway? Because I’m sorry, no matter how you “cut it” the evidence is quite clear that motorways are our safest roads, and high speed collision on country roads are the biggest killer of young men behind the wheel.

Hopefully you won’t take out any innocent road users on the way.

It just seems to me that you and some other people are implying that I’m some boy racer behind the wheel, which I’m not at all. I just want to pass the test so I can drive to different bike venues I’ve never been to.

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So do you turn your head 45 degrees when looking in mirrors then????????????????

Excuse me but wtf are you talking about now?

Think about it this way- you say you’re a really good driver but test-standard driving is in some way wrong. Now even if you’re right why is it that with the adequate driving ability you think you have, you can’t drive to the test standard which you think you understand well enough to judge?

Observation doesn’t just mean “looking while changing lanes and moving off”- though that might just be your turn of phrase.

Because it seems you need to turn your head a lot and show the examiner that you’re looking.. not just moving your eyes. To me it’s a lottery whether you pass the test or not, It seems to be very much based on the person you get on the day, and traffic etc.

And why are so many people on here hiding behind fake names as a cover up to their silly talk.. i probably know a lot of people on here.

So tell us, what did you actually fail for? Totting up of minors? One consistent driving error judged as severe?

I’ve already said the main thing I clocked up errors for was observation, even though i always look when changing lanes, moving off etc, the examiner might not have seen me look.

Also got a few errors for road positioning when stopping, turning right, turning left.. even though i made sure i followed the curb when turning left and drove very carefully. I did cross the white stop line once by about half a foot or so, so probably got marked down for that. There was a few right turns where i didn’t see which turn it was until late so didn’t get the best line around… didn’t think he’d mark me down for it though.

Btw over here in Ireland we’re only allowed nine grade 2 errors, not 16. Also it seems by other posters that the test has got a lot harder over the years..

Assuming he does somehow pass his test in that time, it seems quite unlikely he’ll survive long enough to do that. Most likely another young male driver dead on a narrow country road, still at least he recognises motorways are dangerous… …just a shame they are actually the safest roads in the country and he hasn’t woken up to the rest!

Thats utter pants… :roll:

I think people training for the test are probably the safest drivers out there… I believe this… after that most people seem to forget everything in the test and drive too fast, don’t bother indicating, change lanes like they own the road, etc.

It’s a bit of a lottery whether you pass or not it seems, depending on the mood of the driver and how many people have passed that week etc. I’ll back this up with the poster who said his mate passed on about the 8th attempt and is still terrible at driving.

I choose to drive a little outside of the test spec when it’s safe to but you say it’s unrealistic? Mmm. That I’m afraid is utter balls. And reflects badly on you, if you mean it seriously, that’s a terrible attitude.

So do you turn your head 45 degrees when looking in mirrors then????????????????

I’m afraid that is utter balls…..

No one I know drives the same way you were taught in the test.. most of my mates try to hit roundabouts at speed and hit the apex. Obv you would fail if you did this in a test.

Ok so maybe I didn’t word this how i meant it, but I’m still trying to make a point that most people drive a lot differently in real life to the test. And no I don’t intend on driving like that. But anyway the amount of drivers that drive roundabouts at speed without indicating is ridiculous.

I have to say i think most people here wouldn’t have even noticed any of the minor errors i made during the test. The test is just an anal poncy way of driving that isn’t realistic in the real world.

– you can’t pass a test, yet you’re a really good driver – is that based on lap times in Forza then?

I don’t have a clue what that is, sounds like some computer game. I haven’t touched any in over ten years.

& OP: I’m afraid to say that every time you post, you show everyone here exactly why you failed.

You weren’t in the car so I don’t know what you’re saying… :roll:

Another “driving god” you are i suspect :roll:

This will sound a harsh – it’s meant to. You failed your test because you aren’t yet safe to be allowed to drive by yourself on public roads. Observation and car control are the basic skills needed to drive safely and you dont ahve them yet. Come on – how difficult is it to stop a car rolling back on a hill?

As for he pull-push method of steering – it is by far the safest method of steering. Just think how you’d steer away from some plonker who stepped out in front of you at a junction if you had your hands all crossed up.

Contrary to popular belief, the way you are taught to drive IS the best way to drive. All of this “you only learn to drive after you pass your test” stuff is absolute bollocks. You only learn to drive badly after you pass your test.

I am glad you failed your test.

Rant over.

Sounds like you might have your head slightly up your ass there…
I always look before turning or changing lanes, i may not have cocked my head 45 degrees and take my eyes off the road to make it obvious, but i think thats a bit picky. To say I’m unsafe isn’t very fair, I can drive really well, maybe not just to the way you need to drive in the test. No one I know drives the same way you were taught in the test.. most of my mates try to hit roundabouts at speed and hit the apex. Obv you would fail if you did this in a test. Not saying its safe but its how people drive..
Get off your high horse… :roll:

Personnally I say abolish driving tests and everyone should drive a car like they would ride a bike:

-Jump Reds
-Mount the pavement at random
-Bang on the roof of anyones car who gets a bit too close
-Race strangers.
-Disconnect your brakes and clutch and stay stuck in one, slightly too high, gear, whilest wearing hippster girls jeans and getting in everyones way (But looking “Bang on trend”)…
-Drive home drunk along the pavement late at night with a plastic bag full of tennants attached to one side of the steering wheel…
-Do massive Wheelies/Skid/Endos whenever possible.
-Only ever drive anywhere when wearing suitable (expensive) clothing and a hydration pack, even if your just poping down the shops.

All of the above as applicable…

:lol: :lol: I like that Lol..

When I finally did pass I only got 1 minor (bit annoying really, I went round a corner in 3rd muttered to myself ‘should of done that in 2nd’, examiner grinned said ‘oh’ and gave me a minor for it).

Bit of a pr!ck!!!

Depends on your attitude to the event. If you’re comfortable on that bike and just want to complete the whole thing, you’ll be fine. If you get the endurance racing bug then you may want to consider a more suitable bike.

I have to say I’m just a tad concerned by the OP’s attitude that it’s “unfair” he failed – not promising for the right attitude to driving once he’s passed.

I’m just a bit p!ssed off at the moment. I’ll get a couple more lessons and practice a ton more before my next attempt.

I surprised so many people have passed on the first try. The people that took multiple attempts aren’t speaking up i suspect…

Nothing major just too many minor things.

The main things I got marked down on were road positioning when turning right/ left, stopping, and observation when moving off / changing lane. I was looking around the whole time though! I guess a few times I didn’t turn my head 45 degrees to make it obvious…

I’ve heard the geometry on the Boardman HT’s is a bit dodgy…

I have a pair of GORE ones which I like a lot. They’re a bit similar to ski gloves in a way, but a slimmer fit. Never been cold in them.