only 2 seats in the affordable model. newer model is too expensive but has 3 front seats
where would i put the second child? on the roof?

yeah, had a zafira as a hire car once, not only horrid to drive but horrid to look at as well.

thats it, i dont really drive that much, we have the big old volvo estate for the family. this is the 2nd car (which i would love to get rid of, but i really think its not possible)

i drive to work 3 days a week (cycle in and share lifts on other days) which is 50km a day. and then biking locally twice a week, and occasionally away for rides elsewhere.
so driving comfort isnt really high on the list of priorities.
i dont want a transit van or big ol’ 4 x 4 because i really dont need it. the new citroen / peugeot car / van with the funky 3 seats in the front really would be ideal, but i think they only came out last year so still very expensive.

thinking more along the lines of bikes upright in the back, so they can fit side by side and not lay on top of each other.
i guess that puts me in the realms of either a van or a 4 x 4 monster

i gave up on mine after one run (on the front, revelations)
huuuuge nobbles and hairs and just completely clogged.
nice and grip, but damn slow (or maybe that was just the extra 2 lbs of mud stuck in my fork brace)

Used mine for the first time off road last night.
I’ve got the spot, runnning it with a 4.4 amp/h battery. Used it for a 26 km commute along pitch black tow path on monday, then 14kms off road last night.
Its great, the toggle switch is easy, but to be honest as the battery will last about 6 or 7 hrs on high, I pretty much left in high all the time.
Coverage is good and I really couldnt see why you would need a twin set up.