yeah I told Nirvana it’s near Heads Roll.

thx @mlc. baby rig lol.

well I’m sure that’s relative to what else you work on.

it looks pretty big to me!

35 metres high?

28 not 18 I believe trail_rat.

BDF 28.

@dragon I’m presuming you’re being partially humorous there (fair enough!) but I was told the only heli big enough for this rig is in Norway and super expensive to hire. Plus there are all the HGVs of hardcore for the pad.

Decide for yourselves folks. Research the rig that’s going in to Bury Hill Woods, it’s no nodding donkey. Take a look at how it’s going to get in – the size of it and the proposed route. And take a look at the ongoing planning applications for Horse Hill, which is also ‘exploratory’. Check out the water company’s discomfort over risk to the water supply – easy to find article on BBC News.

Ta for looking.

Assumptions STATO, some obviously incorrect with 20 seconds effort.

No matter, kicking the NIMBY or not football around informs no one.

If anyone is concerned and wants to know more it’s getting easier every day to get informed.

Have a good day y’all.

-cancelled original post. whatevs. by all means folks turn up and see for yourselves.-

yeah that could get messy, esp with the HGVs travelling in convoys of 3.

Ninfan I’ve been to the camp, I have met no extremist eco-loons.

Your posting starting ‘yes’ has some objectivity but it feels to me your other posts, the loon one and the ‘middle class, pillar of the community types‘ one betray some prejudice.

Anyway it’s OK to disagree. We’ll see what happens. This will make for a good chat in the Plough one day!

@ninfan good.

I’ll disagree your first point, this is a different kind of rig, 35m high, significant hardened install pad, lighting, hardened perimeter (currently in PP), permanent security staff.

You have some points in para 2, though who’s using who is debatable. It’s right by Heads Roll though.

IMO if we find a way to stop it all benefit. My feeling is if it goes ahead they will soon want more, near.

Critiquers please start posts with a YES/NO on if you know the site. Will make decision on responding, or not, much easier. Thanks.

’twas ever thus Jim. I have to really really really care about something to go near the STW chat forum!

^^ love you guys.

BTW – I don’t drive a 4WD before anyone asks, but I do have an Audi,

Ah yes, we may have had some near misses. 😉

bikers are going tealeith – I will be there with some mates, several MTB sites have written up articles, Richard Kelly’s on the case with his crew, and the campaign are trying to get the roadies now – roadies love that lane.

there is an “official” ride starting St Josephs Church, Falkland Grove, Dorking RH4 3DL – that will be up the Lane I guess but off road is viable too. or make your own way of course. not a compliant lot are we?

It doesn’t matter as long as you get there.

Personally I’m hoping for record number of bikes at the Tower, and yes I include ‘that’ event in the summer’. 😉

The rig is 35 metres high.

We are nimbys, the siting is nuts.

The water company agrees: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-34930442

@jambalaya the campaign is about the site. We are seeing no pros. Mail if u want to chat.

Plus. Redlands is awesome, leave it alone.

The site is right at the other side of the Lane from Redlands. In fact the campaign used a Forestry Commission Redlands sign for publicity.

Binners I have bumped your info up to campaign. Thank you.

Thanks STW.

http://singletrackworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/big-oil-threatens-mountain-bike-trails/

& watch the movie!

That’s the problem. Unless you are a local or have ridden here and got knowledge of the area it just looks like a load of hippies standing in the way of progress.

It really is not.

Word.

hey all

my post on this in bike forum got shut down, not sure why, maybe because I linked to another bike site. good job ant77 for getting this out.

this is a big deal. (the drill not the post). a very big deal.

this is what that want to install. it’s 35 metres high and the size of a small village. http://www.bdf.co.uk/equipment_rig_28_Ideco_BIR5625.php

the site is about 800 metres down Coldharbour Lane from Coldharbour in the direction of Dorking, right on the Heads Roll jump site and the other side of the road from Redlands.

they want 1,100 HGV movements up and down the Lane. plus the rig in.

the oil cos think there is a lot of oil under the Weald and they want to bang out a lot of wells – the more they do the cheaper they get. bang bang bag across the hills just to start. another is already planned for Brockham.

the OP gave you the key links and I also encourage you to visit the site and camp. the protectors are smart and friendly. and they will give you a cup of tea too.

Twitter is here: https://twitter.com/SaveLeithHill @SaveLeithHill

pls ride to the Tower (top of Leith Hill) for 1130 – midday on Sat 3 Dec. It would be awesome of the MTB community was well represented.

and tell your roadie mates too, they love that Lane.

don’t take my word for it.

http://www.ibikeride.com/news/3052-the-future-of-surrey-hills-is-in-question-get-aware-get-involved

Zwift.

Starting a ride in the rain is horrible and nowadays I wear glasses so riding in the rain’s not really viable anyway.

Let it go, there will be other days.

how it looks to me: https://goo.gl/photos/YW14CvFVu8HVjroAA

thanks for the bike review.

& a mate has a Vantage RR+ and really like it.

well I’m only one voice.

the reason I found it difficult to read was on a laptop all the text is in the right half of the screen, and having the main pic in permanent view doesn’t add value after first sight I think.

others may well love it. & it’s your baby, don’t try and please all the people.

Loving my 2.8 plussed Yelli Screamy at the mo, my fave ever HT.

PS the 2 pane blog layout is not the easiest to read.

> Peronally, I think that Leith actually has by far the best trails anwyay,

Ssshhhhhh!!!!!

As for bike muggings, I think they are reported here in Spring or early Summer.

there’s a trail on Leith Hill called Pump It – it’s a reasonable alternative!

Obviously not me personally.

> What’s the Abinger Hatch like these days? Anyone know?

Bloody good. There is a small playground opposite, to the left of the church. And a big green to wear ’em out. And the Hatch’s garden is a fair size too.

See also
The Plough, Coldharbour
Stephan Langton, Friday Street
Royal Oak, Abinger Common (also recently reopened).

But if you need flat green space for the kidlings, Hatch wins.

Further tip, if you’re riding back to Dorking Station allow 20-30 minutes, ride into the Denbies vineyard and around the back of the big building you’ll find Surrey Hills brewery. They do takeaways at 2 quid a pint, the Shere Drop was recently voted best bitter in UK, and personally I love the Ranmore Ale. Straight from the barrel it’s nectar. You can drink on the premises (outdoors) too.

It’s lost a litte of the charm of the interior however the Plough is very much on the up (if a little “Surrey Hills” priced).

Make sure you try the brewed-on-the-premises (by a buddy of ours) beers – Crooked Furrow, the soon to arrive Surrey Puma, and Smiler when it’s back on in the spring.

CAVEAT: when you go out the door and down the steps after a couple LOOK TO THE RIGHT. There is no pavement and roadies zip down the descent there, near silently. The previous landlady was involved in a life-threatening collision this way, no repeats please.

PS shout outs are also due to the Stephan Langton at Friday Street (singletrack all the way from the Plough) and Cobbett’s micropub in West Street, Dorking. Both are bike friendly and serve highly quaffable ale.

Dorking – the drinking biker’s ultimate home!

surely looking “all wheel” is good for a bicycle?

update: assisting tyre dismount with foot worked fine. Chronicle won’t take yet but didn’t try very hard. Again tomorrow.

David do you notice any issue with the extra tyre weight? (I ride at the back of a fast crew, I need to keep up!)

thx guys.

I have a Chronicle to go on the front, intending to leave the rear.

I’ve backed off for today, will try with foot tomorrow.

(Not sure why I bother carrying that hefty tube if I can’t get the tyre off!)

No other bits. I use a USB extension cable so the dongle is close to the Vortex.

iPhone app for calibrating the Vortex. Can’t get my Android phone to pick it up.