Oh not another weekly road incident thread where the scenario gets analysed in more detail and from more angles than the ‘trial of the century’ with O.J freekin Simpson!

Get back to work,get out on yer bikes or hit another website before this turns into another 10 pager!

Hide your phone in her car before she heads off with Endomondo running..

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By the time you even react, my bike is 100m up the road.

Maybe that’s what the irish guy (in my link above) always thought.. only when his bike was 100m up the road he was left dead against the rockface.

He went to pass two cars and the car in front of him pulled out and knocked him into the rock face. If you pass 3,4,6 or more cars at once,at which number of cars does it start getting dodgy as far as being so much faster/getting past quicker than the car at the front of the pack can swing out on you goes? I feel more vulnerable passing 3+ cars at speed after reading of this local accident. Passing one car in front of you at speed with no junctions up ahead would obviously be pretty much fool proof but a tourist with a row of cars behind them,rather you than me,weeksy!

better grab some carbon paste then.

Not much I can say here but I’ll post whether it’s helpful or a boot in the baws to you ;O) but I know roughly what she must be feeling at times with the drinking every night/every other night.My bro used to drink a lot years ago and I dreaded it. I lost the plot one night and went off at him. Was sick of it.

She’s had enough. Bolted. Not sure if she had or has gone off at you in the past or kept it in for too long (17 years?) but she’s left. Ugh.

You say you had one week off in all that time with a few days here and there. You must sleep tensed up. Possibly frowning in your sleep. You need to realize that losing a bit of income on those days you have off add up to nothing each year. You need to take holidays. Something to look forward to. Time to relax the muscles and drain your mind from work evil. It’s something that will clear your head for all of this and make you a healthier person amongst a hundred other things. The nice house and nice cars are.. nice,but not needed. What kind of car would you be downgrading to with the amount lost over 3 weeks holidays? Not really an issue right now but it all comes back down to why you must start taking holidays. It’s only just dawned on me that as a couple,you have never been on holiday in 17 years..and as a family with your daughter,never been on holiday. How much would you lose out on a year by taking three weeks off? How big a deal is that when you look at the profit each year in the business? With a clearer head after three weeks off a year,you might start working a lot more efficiently too. BONUS!

Getting off the drink is one thing,sorting it out with family is another.. but you need to start taking time off or you’ll end up with serious probs.Are you managing to do anything at work right now or would you agree that its pretty much a waste of time? Keep away from it for a few days and get the important stuff sorted out. I know you might say ‘but my work IS important’ but nowhere near as important as stopping a heart attack in its tracks.

Good luck.

Woody, the clip shows a confident driver making progress but at the same time it makes me wonder what would have happened if the car he pulled in behind freaked a bit and lifted off.

On the type of road and how busy it is,this can often be a complete waste of time.

Not to mention Coffeeking wearing his brakes out far earlier than expected ;O)

I’d like to post this wee story as a reminder for car drivers/motor cyclists.

I wonder if the accused looked in her mirror but had one last glance up ahead before pulling out a split second after the biker decided to go for it? I just keep picturing the biker going for a really quick pass and the woman deciding to make the move roughly the same moment.. with it all ending with a death. Without seeing what happened its hard to put the blame on any of them but if any of you are out on the bike and see an overtaking moment ahead and decide to spurt past (and quite rightly too) just be aware of what some drivers can do up ahead and always remember that many drivers won’t realize just how fast you can put a thought into practice. Remember,no matter how much power we have with bikes to ‘quickly and safely’ get past,there’s other road users out there not expecting what bikes are capable of. So when things don’t go to plan,there’s not always going to be a time for arguing with the driver or motorcyclist over who was at fault as in this case,the motorcyclist was knocked/pinned/T-boned into the rockface by the sounds of things. Game over.

http://www.highland-news.co.uk/News/Three-year-ban-for-woman-who-caused-A82-death-crash-15052012.htm

From a drivers point of view, If you see headlights of a bike in the mirror, EXPECT it to be passing you within fractions of a second.

After reading this story I now think twice about passing as fast as I used to on the motorbike. In the right gear you could easily pass a line of cars without booting it. Booting it might get you past quickly (and supposedly safely in a motorcyclists mindset) but have a read of this story to view overtaking from a different perspective.

I like Traceys Giant Trancexual.

Cars brake with 4,motorbikes with 2.

I have just ridden 132 miles the long way home from work via Achnasheen,Coulags,Eilan donan castle and up through Glenshiel. I passed 4 cars in total between 7pm and 9.30pm

Move up here, you rarely get cars on the road!

Well here’s my view on it. If Coffeeking and Co were to get on the back of the motorbike of the bikesafe instructor we have been out with,he would have a hairy fit. If said police officer was out in plain clothes/bike or car and witnessed me filtering between cars,that have a two second gap between them,while they are driving under the speed limit.. I can tell you now he would be praising me for doing so. As much as you might think that he would probably want to pull me over for a word,or a fine,you have got it all wrong*

*going by the way I described the scenario.

Have you read ANY of the posts re safe overtaking and adapting to conditions/circumstances while driving?

reading posts whilst driving is something that I leave to the youngsters…

Ahh so that’s why so many old folk get lost on the roads regardless of all the sign posts 😆

@ 3.20 I have had a few amazing days in the water there with big swells. Water is so warm come sept! Great vid.

Of course there is still good stuff around but it doesn’t have the same “wow, where did that come from” impact it did

That’s why I’ll never grow tired of the lyrics in the second link above. The way its sung,the music..

Brainfreeze a cornerstone of hip hop?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I083BfTFOGs

Don’t worry about it,Gravitysucks. Spend a few days after passing the test going up and down Rannoch moor to get the jist of how all british deer react!

Just like in this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvCOiFcWNHE

I would guess the rider was going well over 100mph for the deer to have been struck ;O) If he was going 100mph then he might have seen it in time and corrected his speed. If he was going 60mph the deer would still have been sleeping ;O)

Hope the guy is o.k. Shame about the deer.

No probs. 13.5 stone and I can easily run 25psi with 2.5/2.35 maxxis minions.

I like the crank brothers comment about them lasting if you take care of them.

Look, bin the freekin things and buy Shimano. You won’t have to look after your pedals ever again. Just ride.

I hardly ever go through gloves.I’m on my 2nd pair of troy lee air gloves since 2005. I just don’t ride hard enough/grip hard enough/fall off enough.

Shredded the palm a bit on them the other night. First fall in years. I never try hard enough and I enjoy getting home in one piece more often than not these days.

I have only ridden from the Laggan side around to Lochan Na h-Earba then rode/hiked the bike up through the ‘pass’ if you could call it that. I descended down the other side a bit and came back up the same way.. descended back down to the loch and rode back to the road.

Worth going there on a nice calm day just to look down that loch. It’ll blow you away. Views up CBM are nice but not a patch on the Earba!

Its based in the highlands and only translates Teuchter! I can usually make out what Guy says.

Its based in the highlands and only translates Teuchter! I can usually make out what Guy says.

I can’t make out what is said. I’ve tried a few times.. maybe its this netbook.

If you are working there I have heard that using the wrong brands of phone can get you escorted from the venue.

+2 honourablegeorge and Jedi!

I don’t own sx but have had st’s on a bike for a few years now and they are one of the most hassle free biking parts I have ever owned. These are 2009 models too.. not exactly the latest freehub/pawl system.

The rims are what to expect with mavic. Brilliant. The tensions have stayed put pretty much since day one. I have only trued them once. It is a 2nd/3rd bike but I’d buy another pair tomorrow if I had to get new wheels.

Good luck Trailrat! I hope you mock a few big bouncers on the way!

scoffing pizza drinking coffee then oiling the motorbike chain before heading off towards either Mallaig or Broadford on Skye. Not sure which yet.

Clocks are a funny one,Jeremy. Both cars read about 33-34mph when the Tomtom said 30mph. The same as just about every speed sign I can think of. They might be out quite a bit but they all seem to be the same. Maybe I’m wrong. The motorbike is an import with the light beam back to front with an mph speedo. This speedo always matches up with the speed signs in villages but god knows what it really is! Never had a satnav on a bike.

I aim to go just over the speed limit on the dials (probably just under the actual limit in real money) and I still seem to be pissing off 95% of all kinds of drivers in these zones.

Martin – so you always speed, my my

B R, read the whole paragraph.Not just the first ten words. If the needle is just over the limit in a 30 zone I will be confident I am going under 30. To the point where I could stay with the needle hovering above whatever speed limit.. even if there’s a speed camera van or hand held gun ahead. Did this in Nairn a few weeks ago.. no fines yet.

On a 70mph zone I’ll also be happy to cruise along at 73/74mph on the clocks.. and know that I am still under the actual limit. Although the Tomtom says I’ll be going around 68mph. Do you understand what I talked about now?

As far as writing ‘my my’. If its to wind me up for speeding,it won’t. As unlike many people, I am not going to lie about speeding when I do it every day of my life.

edit: I have driven past camera vans at least 5mph over the limit (on the clocks) in 60/70 sones and have made no effort in reducing my speed. I passed one at the mound (heading to Golspie) last month and stayed at 65 on the clocks. This probably comes out at 59-ish mph.. given that they would be looking to fine drivers going around 10% over the limit.. still quite a bit away from 66mph.

I can’t think of a 30 zone crossing a 70 zone myself but maybe there is such a thing. 30 is more than fast enough to be crossing anyway,isnt it?!

Maybe some kind of device that would constantly bleep with the most annoying tone if you went over the speed limits would be the answer. Or a device that cuts out the music heading for the speakers in every car built. Maybe a device hard wired in to all cars that plays the birdie song over your own music (also when the stereo is turned off) :O)

Yeah,retests would be a pain to do for all of us but I would rather they did this than the way it is right now. It seems most older folk never indicate going around roundabouts.. only indicating when exiting.

Another hate is folk pulling out of slip roads into the side of you.. when you are going the speed limit and there’s a car to your right. They seem to think it is my job to slow down,speed up or shift lanes.

To be honest on this one,before the bike test I was driving more like those folk when it came to slip roads. :O( So the bike test taught me what I had forgotten in the driving test. So worthwhile for not only the bike riding,but my driving too.

Back on topic. I just wish they would put limiters in every vehicle to slow them down to whatever limit they are in.

I am so sick fed up of people reeling me in when I get into 30 or 40 zones,giving me the feeling that I am slowing them down. It also makes me anxious as I feel that they are thinking I am doing it on purpose.

I aim to go just over the speed limit on the dials (probably just under the actual limit in real money) and I still seem to be pissing off 95% of all kinds of drivers in these zones.

We’re only talking 60 maybe 70mph tops ;O)

Nah,I’m kidding. I usually ride alone. Well the last biggish ride to Ullapool was with the boss last month. Still prefer riding alone.

Martin – I am not going to argue with you but my decades of experience and hundreds of thousands of miles of riding gives me a very different perspective to you

I totally agree.

Jeremy.. fancy a bike tour? 😀

Oh go onnnnn, It’ll be funnnnnn! Looking in our mirrors at each other, Wondering what we might be muttering,or screaming,under the mouthpiece. Maybe the eye language will say it all! (no tinted visors allowed,mind) ;O)

Sorry folks,I argued!

Martinxyz – nonsense

Many would disagree.

you can see the deer easily

A small deer crouched down or behind a hedge on the Rannoch road when biking around 100mph.. If you say so.

and I would be scanning far further than you say

I said that to scan 50ft INWARDS from the roadside on BOTH sides of the road as well as looking at the road in front of you is not something your brain will manage to do safely at those speeds. If you picked up all that the way I hoped you’d pick it up then are you saying you would be scanning further inland on both sides of the road more than 50ft while still managing to keep your imaginary third eye on the road ahead of you at all times….. going the speeds you talketh of on the Rannoch road?

They do not appear from nowhere

See above,2nd quote’s answer.

Nothing appears from no where if yo are riding properly and paying attention.

See above,2nd quote’s answer involving crouching deer and/or hedges….. while you bimble along towards them safely,at 100mph,98 decibels,9 thousand revs,with reactions similar to a 21 year old…

Just because you cannot do it

Yes,I couldn’t do all that whilst riding at 100mph and know (and stupidly say) that It’s perfectly safe on that road with no threats that could run out in front of you. No,not me. Maybe you..maybe others with the same mindset.. but not me. You are correct there,Jeremy.

does not mean its impossible

It is impossible to ride on that road,at 100mph,and say that it can be perfectly safe when you haven’t a clue where wildlife lurks.

Oh – and a bike will stop as well as a car – and once again you show your limitations and believe they apply to all.

If a deer ran out on you whilst hitting 100mph,Jeremy.. you would have a far greater chance of controlling it under massive braking in a car than on your bike. I agree,bikes can stop as quick and often a lot quicker than cars,but with the amount you have been on a bike over the years..I would happily put money,any money,that you would stop a modern car a lot quicker and safer in the heat of the moment.

So yes – you are not telling the truth

No,you misunderstood.I said I WAS telling the truth. I didn’t come to lie about not speeding and going back for another shot at the road near Cluanie. I said I was telling the truth.

its your opinion and as from previous thread you do not understand the correct lines to take when cornering

You bring something up from a previous thread? O.K. let me bring it back too. You seem to have forgotten the argument. A road that was in a 40mph zone close to where I work has a nasty left hander on it that is actually safer to approach closer to the middle of the lane you are on. I talked to the northern constabulary bikesafe instructor about the exact corner and like I have already told you, he agreed with me regarding how quickly you would have to steer back in towards your own side of the road if a car came from the other direction on that particular bend. He also appreciated how often oncoming cars tend to cut that corner in question. Another reason to ‘drive to suit the conditions’ as he put it. Basically saying that you can’t drive exactly the way we were told to navigate every left hander by positioning on the right hand side of the road as quite often there’s other problems that could arise making the ‘correct’ way more dangerous.Do you understand that? If you don’t,please contact him about the corner in question and he’ll explain how and why it differs,O.K?

do not understand how to maximise sightlines so anything you say about bikes is suspect at best

See previous answer.There’s no point in maximising sightlines to keep yourself out of danger if it ends up putting you into ANOTHER danger.

It’s taken me a while,but hopefully that answers all of what you questioned. As I’m sure most on here would agree.

Aye, but yer snapping at me ;O)