I have good reviews from a New Patriot rider. Better than Alpine.
aye but that’s a 180mm bike is it not?
but many modern 160mm bikes do climb really well and descend even better.
Yep, it’s all relative, the mags are comparing the climbing prowess of the new 160mm bike they’re reviewing against a fuel ex9.9 or giant anthem x1 they tried a week before not your 5 year old 32 lb rig with the mud tyres you can’t be bothered to take off. I think the whole reason d’etre of the enduro and similar bikes is that there is no ‘compromise’ as long as you don’t expect it to be the best at everything which no one would, that territory is occupied by the niche bikes obviously.
I think the enduro looks about the most accomplished do it all bike in terms of up,along, down, price and weight (those canyons might pip it on value per smile). I feel that the alpine’s a bit more focused as a crank up and them bomb it down here as the spesh will do it all and by all accounts be pretty much as good bombing down. Dirt are in love with the new one.