ripped my shimano shoes and sent them back to CRC for a warranty replacement. borrowed some flat pedals off a mate for a few weeks. Ive not ridden flats for over 20 years. The pedals weren’t anything special, and didn’t have pins on them, and i was riding in an old pair of trainers… but i found it bloody awful. on fast rocky descents my feet were all over the place, and climbing felt like hard work. Im sure with a decent pedal, and a good shoe, it would have been a different story, but i can’t see myself switching