That blue pig I’m looking at is over 31lb. Thats heavier than my Canyon! I know its not all about weight, its about how it feels. Still tempted though.

Saddleguts

This is actually not helping at all. I really thought the consensus would be that they are heavy and people have them as a 2nd or 3rd bike. Didn’t realise the love.

Looks like my choice is between Ragley Blue Pig, Ragley Piglet, Bird Zero or second hand Onza Jackpot. May even consider a 45650b as they do look good and are great value.

Some great looking bikes on here though.

No its definitely ‘need’. I ‘want’ to keep my canyon but for various reasons can’t. These include not being able to fit my sons bike seat on due to the rear shock.

But would it be ok to go steel for a do it all bike? I only have room for one bike so i will have to commute on it (which often involves going the long way home in summer through the fields) and weekend trail centre rides, red and blue routes mostly. I loved the feel of my old singlespeed inbred which is why I am tempted again. Saw a good deal on an Onza Jackpot today. Looks very very nice but another brand I don’t know much about.

Cheers Rico but I would need a large.

Some good suggestions there. I think this time of year is good as next years bikes are getting released and there’s bargains to be had.

Still think the Bird is the favourite though. I can’t find much on here about them though.

My commute is mostly off road unless its very wet or dark.

Just found the bird tx n11 online. Looks amazing value. Anyone any experience of it?

cheers pal, saves me ordering the shimano one. now the easy part, fitting the bloody thing.

Mboy you have mail, need some advice on a whyte g160

Err, no it was me being massively stupid. Rubber Buccaneer your first post was indeed correct. I don’t know my arse from my elbow. Cheers.

Fantastic advice, thanks a lot trekster! I’ll have a good browse through these tonight. Cheers.

That looks very tempting Binners. A couple of my group just want a simple B&B though which is a shame as I would love to try that.

The Mabie House option is fully booked, also a shame as looked ideal.

Any other suggestions very welcome.

Got an 06 reg petrol last week and really happy with it. Very smooth to drive, practical and hard wearing interior. Like the sensible retired old man image in a way, better than the Chelsea tractor driver image!

Got Vauxhall Zafira 1.6 in good condition, 06 reg, very practical, long not, fsh etc that I’m about to put for sale for about a grand? Worth more but would prefer a quick sale. email me if you want more details.

Calm down, don’t be so serious, it was a bit of ribbing, that’s all

What’s phsycology?

Tyres are brand new high spec ones apparently, giugaro something or other, feel very grippy

It’s the sport se so climate control, electric sunroof, up graded alloys etc. Got everything we need but would have loved a Bluetooth stereo but we’ll manage.

Well finally got the new car. After looking at a lot of different options including rav 4 (no bargains about) Suzuki Vitara (only ones I could see were tatty) Mazda 6 estate (slightly too pricy) and very nearly getting an Alfa 159 sport wagon (too high miles in my price range, heart ruling head) went for the safe option. Honda CR-V with 74000 miles in 2.0 petrol (cheers for advice hora) for £3800 which I think is a bargain. It’s in great condition and drives really well, much more solid than my Zafira and the alfas I’ve had in the past. Nice of the snow to arrive on the day I bought it to test it on the slippy roads in the Peak District on my drive home. Anyone else got any experiences of CR-Vs? Anything I should look out for?

Any assassins creed game. My kids run rings round me on every game but these are superb, they require a bit of patience and stealth. Really great games.

Look at this beauty! If only I was a bit nearer Somerset.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Honda-CR-V-2-0-i-VTEC-Sport-/151948658646?hash=item2360d887d6:g:G3oAAOSwUuFWuay7

Been all over the internet and found that theres not many CRVs that have done under 100000 miles for this money. Shame as really love these. I have also found that i should be able to get something for £4000 ish if I am going for petrol so that could save a good chunk. The Grand Vitara is still the current favourite and I am now considering petrol after reading comments on here – very helpful cheers. I really loved the look of the Mazda but as someone mentioned the yearly tax is a bit much at nearly £500. Still looking at Ford C-Max as they get good write ups and they seem just about big enough. They are a bit dull though but a seem like the sensible option if I want something cheap to run so I would still consider an MPV so any suggestions welcome. Thanks for the advice so far.

Would consider a c max, are they roomy enough in the back for 3 kids? Is the boot big with seats up?

Not really but the Mrs likes the elevated driving position and to be honest it’s a change from the boring mpv we’ve had for years.

Just done an insurance quote on that there Mazda and it was surprisingly cheap. Barely different to my Zafira. Just can’t get my head around getting a car with an engine like that when I set out to get a boring frugal diesel. It’s 250 bph!

Is insurance costs not a lot more on petrol though? And at this price range would just not need one with much lower mileage?

Now that outlander is a beauty brigands, very nice. Is 112k miles on a car like this OK or is that a bit much? Also don’t do many miles at all per year, 4000 maybe.

Like the x trail although it’s pig ugly! Also like the outlander but struggling to find one in my price range that hasn’t been to the moon. I will have a look at foresters. Anyone tried the vitara?

That’s it! Couldn’t see that on the website earlier for some reason, brainstorm. Cheers pal.

Or will some other mech hanger do the trick?

Need a decent length steerer pal but thanks anyway. Like Rebas too, shame.

Epicons currently look my best option. Cant see any decent rockshox/foxs around that are as good value.

Cheers Kayla, yes i am definitely interested in the epicons pal, if you could ley me have a couple of pictures and a price that would be great

https://www.merlincycles.com/marzocchi-marathon-lr-26-71190.html

These look tempting too…..

Sorry Hatter I’m not sure which I need – whatever fits an Inbred with swap outs.

Those Rebas look good. Afraid those SIDS are a bit pricey for me Beagle.

Oakley have an app called Mad Science that has a demo of the lenses – its gives a really good idea of what they feel like on the trail before you buy.

Agreed. This SA 2nd innings has sort of devalued what Stokes and Bairstow did. Bloody awful pitch.

My Mrs hit 40 a couple of months back. I was really struggling to get her anything due to her being a bit like your wife ie not really into anything material and I didnt have a lot to spend so I organised a surprise birthday meal in a posh local pub. She thought it was just me and her but I got a dozen of her mates to join us and she loved it.