THIS IS THE ONE i bought last week #270465043980
and this is the one i bought this week #180418959570

deadlyDarcy i am so ashamed how can you consider Moz and me the same person, i have told you my ebay name, camsmithcat, you can see the transaction and my feedback!! i have an iq of 156 whereas moz has one of half waswaS AGE. Hora what was the one on the first page? the one that sold for £821 that i got a second chance offer for which i paid deposit of £50 and balance of cash or the SL in large that i bought for £1250.
anyway at least i do what i say i will, the serial number is 07M1**49 so if you can fill in the missing numbers and show me those numbers on a receipt then i will give you the frame back. For the record my other one is 07M2**8

you plum not once did i say i know it wasnt stolen i just said i thought that the seller wasnt a thief how could i possibly know if it was or wasnt stolen , i just ahd an opinion, first hand, not removed like you guys, that the seller didnt steal the bike. and yes there will be a stolen ibis section. and i am not worried about £700 , in fact i also bought an sl frame from ebay last week for £1250 i am not short of money, and as i said before the police are going to come to london just in case i have a stolen mojo, you are even funnier than Moz, how old are you by the way

waswas you should read the thread properly, i came on here after i bought the frame because of something moz said about stolen bikes from jungle! thats how i found out about the posts, i tried to register which you may be able to check with stw after i paid for the bike at 5 pm, but did not get accepted until this am otherwise i would have been on here sooner. which of my facts have been connjecture then?? come on point them out. and yes i do feel uncomfortable! and yes that is why i am on here ! as for my integrity let me give you all some more info, in the last few days i have just bought the domain names ibis mojo owners and .co.uk names as i intend to get a mojoowners website up and running

no 2 people involved only! nobody has proved its stolen so why does everyone keep saying that!! there are only the facts as i have quoted them, everything else is conjecture. i only joined the forum to tell everyone from my point of view, Moz came on and we have had some banter , witty on my side but on moz`s?

listen guys, there are only two people who have a legitimate say hear, me Lester the buyer and Moz ( who isnt morris the seller haha)everyone else has an opinion and thats all it is on something they have no first hand knowledge of. The ONLY facts are this I bought a frame off of ebay described as new which it wasnt, i paid £49 deposit and £650 balance in cash. i collected it from Leeds station yesterday at 5pm, thats it nobody else " knows " anything.
and sorry for spelling exonerate wrong , it wasnt a typo thats how i thought you spelt it

Moz, you are amazing how did i act sneaky, i didnt check up on anything. i looked at the frame for the first time when i met you, told you it was second hand not new, you offered me money off as you were going on holiday and had got rid of the original winning bidder, and i was still happy to pay £700 for a mojo frame in XL which are rarely offered. you arent quick witted enough for this discussion, and your answers are repetetive and not pertinent. and as the other guy says all you have to do is let us know who your seller was and let us ask them! and then you would be exhonerated ( Klered fromm blaim in your language)

in the jungle the might jungle the ibis sleep tonight
ooooh he ooh ohhe ooh he hoo hoo hoo

i dont think Moz will post for a while as Countdown is on and its his favourite programme, he actually got a two letter word the other day, and no mo and jo are names not words! i also think Moz is Dylexic as he originally tried to sell 2 ibsi jomo frames . i think he won the frames in a scrabble competition

if you read the post it also says 21 inches from middle bottom bracket to top of seat tube, lots of people who dont know about bikes say adults and lots of people that do know about bikes put in medium large or small not the size in inches which isnt always relevant

rockdodger
thats the one we were all talking about

waswas i think met enough trolls in last 5 years you are getting this site mixed up with your dating site lol

David, couldnt you have bid for your slayer and not paid when you went to collect. do you know if you back your ebay account with a CREDIT card you can pay and get the goods and then ask your credit card company to reclaim the money, they give it to you and you have the goods AND the money !! and the money gets taken out of sellers paypal account!!

verses ( failed detective) if you read the whole thread you would see it says mojo sells for £820 then another one for £50 well £50 via paypal was all that Moz could take, £49.99 actually because he says they froze his account, the balance was in cash! WasWas i am genuine, but being a reasonably intelligent person i started to find all this going over the same ground quite tedious, and i thaought i had the chance to inject some humour, and although i thought it was very funny i am gutted nobody else did lol. And i am not Fronting it out check me out on ebay (camsmithcat) and look at what i buy and my feedback its not 3 like Moz its 1021 with one negative. i dont need to front it out you all mean nothing to me, i dont need to explain myself to anyone but i wanted to

waswas do you know what a troll is, i bet you think its yeti`s new downhill bike. you havent contributed anything intelligent, anything funny or relevant one can only assume you are the dad of Moz

and then mrs Moz/chris/morris comes out, you wondered where the shocker is, well its here, its me. the mojos arent his, i am his only bike and he got me part exchange with a car , and he took out my bottom bracket because it was worn! lol

i just had a thought, i think i am dreaming and i am in the middle of the jeremy kyle stolen bike show

Bling Bling, i know the feeling, your funny :-)
wwaswas, your right, didnt Brad Pitt ride one in Snatch?

well folks i am off for day will try and get pics of serial numbers and get in touch with jungle and stif tomorrow. anyone that has had a mojo kncked and still wants it back please post the serial number on here. this has been one of my most fun days in a while and trust me i have a really fun life, i cant believe so many people have time to do this. By the way how many of you guys actually owns or has owned a mojo?

pikeys, i dont think we should be throwing compliments like that around

Lofi so the police are going to come down to london to visit me to check if the frame i have got is stolen are they, and then i am sure the original owner would love to have his used frame back and then give his insurance replacement back to the insurers. dont shoot down a genuine offer. Not only that just because something is reported stolen it doesnt mean it has been, maybe another scam. some posters seem to be saying things without thinking it through!

Crispedwheel, i dont think so there is too much cosmetic damage to the frame with no structural damage to it, and unless there is something wrong with bottom bracket thread ( and if there is i will be asking my mates from chapeltown to return the frame) i cant see anything wrong with it that would warranty a return.
and Moz morris Chris Moza ilikeachange and also Markus which is the paypal account i paid into, which i may do a charge back on ( check it out )

What is "WAH" I think we all know that me Lester is genuine and that Moz is indeed the seller, in hindsight maybe i should have been more prudent about who and where i buy from, but it just seems to me if you are an ebay user to get the bargains ( if that is what they are) then you have to make your mind up early. i suppose i may have bought some stolen stuff on ebay without realising but i would like to think most of it is not. I hopei havent bought a stolen bike from Moz but i really dont think he stole it, and if the victim can prove it was his i will give it back to him for nothing ( at a cost of £700 to me )

A note for any potential Mojo frame owners without a shock, You must NOT put on a 200mm by 57mm shock as it doesnt work, It must be a 200mm by 50mm and these are NOT sold after market on dt swiss xr carbons or on RP23s and if you do you may have have too much travel and break your frame. i was told this by Steve nicol himself the owner of Ibis!!

hey i just got a text from The seller asking me to post his phone number 07717 310 547 aND a tEXT sAYING tHAT hIS mATE tOLD hIM i wAS sLAGGING hIM oFF. gREAT tHE cAPS lOCK iS wORKING aGAIN

Bling Bling, see another wrong assumption, i have been at work since 5:30 am and have not had a break yet, also i got home late last night ( from Leeds) and i am trying to interact with forum while i am supposed to be working. mind you there is a rumour my caps lock was stolen from my office and i was going to start another thread to see if we could find the culprit. i was thinking the frame may have been Austin Powers as i think he lost his Mojo !! lol

ok m@ck i will posty a picture of me holding my 2 frames showing the serial number, and i will try my best to do that, i am the buyer so obviously not the thief, if in fact they were actually stolen. This is great, i cant believe so many people are interested. Mind you i havent seen one post from someone who has had there naked mojo or green one stolen, thats strange too isnt it?

i may have met with a bundle of cash, but i have a few heavy mates that come from chapeltown that just happened to be at the station with me!! and yes i joined on the 14th but if i am genuine , i could not have joined at any other time could i? if i have time tonight i will post part of the serial number on here, although as i have another i could put that one there instead if i wanted ! by the way the seller offered me the green one for £400 ( not new ) but i didnt want a green one. also Moz i am not saying the seller was thick i was just meaning he wasnt too savvy about bikes or any thing else, and enjoy your holiday. And what does that mean about selling cars, what has that got to do with bikes?

how would someone identify it from another bottom bracket, and if he had more than one bike he could just swap them !! why is it so naive to think that? i would always try to buy a frame with an existing bb and then swap it out later if i needed to. yes 45 bikes, if you want the list i will send it to you and pictures if you like, the main thing was there were so many bikes i liked the look, of cannondale raven, muddy fox interactive, superV, Titus supermoto, atx dh1, intense m1 etc etc . i found all the old ones looked great but didnt ride anything like the new ones, no disc brake lugs, short suspension, but mainly the coclpit did not suit, i have long legs so i need the seat post to be a long way from the pedals on the right size frame. For me its a bit like trying all the old classic cars, which i could never have afforded to drive or buy, like porsches, lotus, etc but i have tried all the old bikes and i love my mojo, have you ever ridden a mojo?

see guys, i told you i didnt think the seller was the brightest in the barrel, my sellers name was morris from leeds, and now we have a new contributor called Moz from Leeds who joined on the 14th Doh

hi Moz, did you meet the guy, Morris he called himself, if so when where and what did you think?

IainC your comment is strange, surely you saying it is stolen without knowing is very similar to me saying i dont think it is. Except that at least i have some first hand dealings here and you are just reading a lot of opinions from other people, he is from leeds ( a big place) some new frames (apparently got stolen) so it must be this bloke must have stolen them.

i am more than happy to phone jungle and stif and give them the serial numbers and what is more if it was stolen from either of thos shops i will give it back if they can prove to me it was stolen from them. also if any one who has had a naked carbon one has had it stolen and can give me the correct number of the frame, i will give it back to him for nothing!!!!!! i will obviously not post the number first.

Oh yes, he did mention to me about bikes being stolen from Jungle but that was after i had paid and he had no reason to mention it, in fact thats how i came on to this forum. why would anyone nick a second hand bike and take the used bottom bracket out to sell, no one buys second hand bbs do they?? i have had so many bikes because i was looking for the right bike , as i say i go on ebay everyday usually at 530 am when i get to work and i have occasionally first optioons on newly listed bikes, sometimes i sell them on and make some money but the main reason was to find the right bike for me. i bought and sold on, mt visions, BMW q bike, superV, Kestrel Edge, M FOX r+roll, i have had at least a dozen carbon bikes, 2 profles K2s carbon, lots of bikes so many i cant remember them all. my mate paid £2.5 k for a heckler and then found it was too small! and he has to keep it i have tried evrything except treks and specialized whih i have never fancied. but after all of those i found the mojo which is absolutely perfect for me and i would never swap it !!

The reason I chose to meet at the station was that it suited ME as i didnt have to get a cab to his house and i didnt have to get a cab back, not only that i would not like to carry cash into the unknown! And also i could then get the very next train back as long as he was on time!! He told me his address and i told him, although i knew i wasnt, that i was coming by car and he had no problems at all offering his whearabouts. in my opinion i dont know if it was stolen, but i dont think he stole it as he was doing absolutely nothing to hide his tracks?

no i dont look like that fellow, he is the guy bruce springsteen sings about " Johny 99 " lol

the bloke i bought it from was an idiot, but i dont think he was a thief. the 2 frames he had were NOT new even though he pretended he thought they were. before i did the deal with him i asked for his home address which he gave and also if you notice, his phone number was in the ads to ask him questions, so i dont think he was trying to hide that muc. he told me what his car was and I chose where to meet. he definitely had no idea about bikes, but i had the feeling he new little about anything! he could not tell me how the person he got the bike from got them but i dont think he stole them. i guess people are thinking he stole new frames, whic usually come with the "shocker" lol but these were old frames, without any shocks. one of the reasons i dont think he stole it as a bike or even as a frame from someone, is that it had no bottom bracket and he would have had no idea how to remove it or even that it could be. Also the green frame was in worse condition. i have no idea how he had 2 frames, unless there are very careless mojo owners in leeds. i keep my SL chained to my cooker with another bike and 3 more d locks connecting them. and as sacraficial cheaper one unlocked beside them. I look every single day on Ebay and have bought 3 mojo frames and 45 other bikes in the last 3 years, as i say evry day i look on ebay and i always search for ibis mojos, and NOT once have i ever seen an advert from someone saying their ibis mojo had been nicked from leeds or elsewhere which is the first thing i would do, with a few pictures. for me this is all a bit of a mystery

Hi to everyone on this forum, I bought the frame that you are all discussing and picked it up yesterday from Leeds train station