me feel sorry fuh yuh chil’ren

me cyan believ’it

I’m putting a tenner on Cancellara. He’ll attack through Richmong park and solo it to the finish with the prevailing tailwind at 60kph

And women play shorter tennis games.

Tony, thanks! I’m there 😀

Goes up Box Hill 9 times for the Men’s race…

OK, the big guys will start to feel that!

It’s clear that’s where the race will be won and lost. All the big finishers will be struggling to hold the climbers up there, can they minimize their losses sufficiently to be able to set up a sprint at the end.

I disagree. That’s not a climb to a pro, even fit 2nd cats can big ring it up the zig zags. Ditchling beacon is much worse and the TdF flew up there when it cam over here in 94(?), even the big sprinters. The atmosphere will be brilliant if it’s a sunny day there though.

djg, I’ve driven both and the cupra diesel doesn’t handle anywhere near as well as a 172/182 though.

“because there’s an engine in the back and therefore no space for bikes”

My mate used to get a bike in the back of his…

I’m impressed!

Just remember that as it is a Renault the electrics will have a few “challenges” and will likely breakdown at some point.

renaultsports are built in a different factory (ex alpine in dieppe) to the cooking versions and the quality/reliability does seem to be better.

because there’s an engine in the back and therefore no space for bikes 🙄

My parents have a 172 cup and my mate has a mk1 172 and they take 2 bikes and 2 peeps no problem.
Fuel economy is pretty good for the performance. The torquey engine means you don’t have to rev it much at all in normal driving. My parents average around 36mpg and my mate around 30….

Shaun,

You will be fine with suit trousers, shirt, jumper, polished shoes and a shave.

We’ll have the engineer discussion tomorrow 😉

Good luck dude.

I’m not sure what involvement michelin have had, but I’m sure if they’re happy to put their name on it it will be all good. It does seem good quality

In the same way that a box of 29 matches is harder to pick up than a box of 26 matches.

massive misunderstanding of basic physics three MTG.

I’ve never ridden a 29er hungry monkey, so can’t comment on experience. It is interesting that no DHers ride 29ers, even though they roll faster….

AND harder to turn poppa due to the greater gyroscopic force of the mass being further from the hub

go to A&E now and then see your doc ASAP. A&E will tell you if there are any fractures etc and your GP can refer you to a physio which is 100% necessary.

I’ve done mine properly (out for a few hours waiting for ambulance etc) a few times and it’s 4 weeks in a sling as standard to let the muscle tears try and repair and then very light exercises. Once a shoulder has popped it is forever weak and liable to happen again as the ligaments holding it together have stretched and they don’t repair. Listen to a doc and physio and you might be lucky and get away with 80% strength back in a year.

Not what you want to hear I’m sure but I speak from far too much experience. The last time I dislocated mine was 6 weeks before a trip to the alps and there was no chance I could have gone 🙁

The Med is pretty rubbish for surfing as I’m sure you know, stay West!

STR, you are ali g and I claim my £5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbLLneR-Umw

Jackass, you are so right. There’s no legal acceleration limit.

Hora, I think most people with big 70k cars also have a cheaper fun run around for the twisties too. The Jag (or RS6, C63 etc) would eat a cayman s alive in a straight line anyway.

Fast cars are fun. Big fast family cars are really fun and great for scaring loads of passengers. I’d have an RS6 avant over that Jag but still appreciate it. Rumbe rumble

I know you didn’t, it was a Clarkson criticism 🙂

625 is lots!

That man is a fool!

1 Nm doesn’t equal 1 lb/ft. Manufacturers have started listing Nm for torque cos as it’s a bigger number for the same twisting force.

Nice car though!

what the hell is a torque?

only with cheap cheap tubs. most tubs use latex tubes which gets stuck together by the latex sealant!

Proximity to the surfable coast will be quite expensive. I’d love to live in the basque region for the surf, snow and cycling, good luck!

Neither. Money obviously doesn’t buy taste…. 😉

I’d love to try some of those madfiber wheels though with some silk FMBs. mmmmmmm

yes.

an interesting fact from my astrophysics days is that the sun contains 97% of the solar system’s mass, but the rest (planets, asteroids etc) accounts for 97% of the angular momentum

they don’t need worry about crash resistance in aeroplanes though!

I’m with Fortunateson09 and hungry monkey. I have just about every possible bike part in carbon on one bike or another but I won’t use carbon bars. They just don’t seem to be very crash resistant and I have seen far more carbon bars fail than alloy ones even though they are still rarer.

Nick Clegg is no longer on that list

well they can’t really go down…

My girlfriend works with a de Havilland. She is now a lefty and has no money

probably not a coincidence nick…

my deviant carbon is very light and well vented but like all proper full faces still horrible to pedal in.

Got my girlfriend a 13″ Myka pro frame and fork plus a few bits off here with juicy 3s for under your max budget including the finishing kit etc I had to buy separately.

She’s 5’1″ so I would say 15″ for your good lady.

email to ferrariby40 (at) hotmail (dot) com please

they speak the truth! new cassette time I’m afraid

Ask the Tory party

I quite agree Mr Smith, and the more cyclists the better 😀

I was just trying to point out that sometimes marketing comes before engineering/quality etc.

A frame is a frame is a frame and that ridiculous hole is an inefficient design feature designed to make the bike stand out. My silly RP dig aside, I’m sure it rides very nicely but as carbon fibre is infinitely tunable those characteristics could be done much more effectively.

Just because BMC know how to build a carbon bike well, doesn’t mean the design engineers and factory guys aren’t at the whim of some graphics/PR bod insisting on a feature.

I know the bike designer for a popular brand/shop who would prefer that the frames were made in Taiwan but they are made in Italy to appeal to the egos of the middle aged sportive riders who buy most of them. Overpriced frames can be made anywhere, and like most of my waffle, none it stops those bikes being seriously ugly!

I’m a lanky get and prefer a slightly sloping top tube on my CX bikes. At the other end of the scale, Ms Kupfernal’s Ridely:

the SLR-01 is lovely especially in black and white (don’t like red bikes)
not only that they ride well too.

They might ride beautifully round richmond park but they’re still a structurally inefficient design, despite the fact that

BMC invested heavily in their own carbon tube machine.

That “generic taiwainese” statement is an inaccurate too. The Taiwanese are accepted as being the leaders in carbon construction, people only look down on Taiwanese frames to justify their own over-priced european frames. Don’t confuse Taiwan with China.