Genesis sizing is very odd these days, you basically have to go a size down from what you would normally ride. I’m 6ft 1ish with a 32″ inside leg and ride a medium and find it spot on, Large felt way to big for me. A Medium with a 100mm stem would be a good bet.

Raceface rings use 51mm chainline so only 1mm off the 52mm most boost specific rings use. I’d just use a standard raceface ring.

Tweeks have them available for pre-order, I believe they are due in sometime next week or the week after, have one on order myself.

Seems nothing has changed, 2015 is listed as 330mm bb as is the 2016/17 versions, however on the original geometry chart it says both drop is 20 and on the new ones it’s 24mm, how that works when they claim the bb remains the same I have no idea!! Either way I’d be astonished if you could tell any difference between them. On that kind of bike I’ve found 330 to be about perfect for bb height

If you have 3k to spend I’d sell all that have and buy a new bike unless your drivetrain is brand new. 3k gets a lot of bike, Whyte T130, Giant Trance etc

Just because it’s pink doesn’t mean it’s a ladies bike! It was the first T130 they offered in an XS size. They no offer it in a lime colour way as well, identical spec, different colour.

https://www.whyte.bike/t130sxl

Whyte T130S if you can stretch, or the SX Lime if not. The T130 is head and shoulders above of either of the bikes you’ve mentioned. I love mine, it’s an epic bike that is fun, fast, reliable, looks great and is great value too.

Haven’t owned a dune but have ridden them numerous times and owned a Foxy carbon for 18 months. Good bikes, pedal well and climb pretty too but do take a bit of getting used to, not a bike you can sit back on, literally and metaphorically! They demand to be ridden 100% all of the time and you need to make a very conscious effort to ride more over the front end of the bike or they just don’t work.

My Foxy had a press fit BB which was a pain in the arse (the dune is threaded) but the above was the main reason I sold it in the end. Went to something a little more agile and XC feeling (Whyte T130) and now much happier. As far as the Dune goes it’s an excellent bike if you’re wanting a flat out “Enduro” race bike. As a trail bike for weekend bashing about I’d say it’s overkill.

Ran a 2.35 hans dampf and a rock razor in the back of my old Mojo HD and there was a slight bit of rub I only noticed when cleaning it. 2.25 nobby nic was fine.

measure at the casing but mine came up at on 2.55″ on a 30mm Raceface ARC rim, I imagine on a bigger 35mm rim they’d be the full 2.6″. Didn’t quite squeeze in the back of my T130 so looking to move them on, £50 for the pair, only had one ride round Llandegla.

Will probably always use Hope hubs, not the lightest but super reliable. Now on my 3rd set of Stans rims across 3 different bikes and disregarding the fact I put a sizable ding in an old crest xc rim while throwing down it antur they’ve all been spot on, love my new Arch MK3’s. a recent addition is 7mesh, their gear is just incredible, the fit is unbelievably good, the quality is second to none and having dealt the good folks there directly they are a pleasure to deal with. On the mtb I refuse to wear anything else now, it’s that good. Ibis is another good shout, I no longer own one but funds and a test ride allowing I’d be awfully tempted by a new Ripley. But I do love my T130C RS as well so it would have to be good!

I would imagine it’s more than likely the shop is being cautious in an ever changing world of standards. As the OP has stated no body in the UK is listing Boost XTR Hubs, so its obviously a low-sale product. Say the OP suddenly changed his mind and no longer wanted XTR hubs and the shop is lumped with an expensive set of hubs it is more than likely nobody else will want. Then his profit turns into several quid sat on the shelf possibly never to be sold or at best sold at cost, which defeats the point of selling them in the first place. For special order items like that its good practice to have this sort of thing in place, especially for smaller business. Why not just buy the hubs from mainland Europe and give the LBS the trade for the rest of the groupset? Seems like the most sensible way to go about it!

Tweeks have them on pre-order, due date is end of May/early June

Before Christmas I had some Pro 4’s built onto Stan’s Arch MK3 rims for my T130 C RS and have been super impressed. Went with a 28h build and they’re light, stiff laterally and have a nicely damped ride. Built them with Sapim D-Light spokes and brass nipples and they came in just over 1700g for the pair with tape and valves. You can get lighter/blingier etc but as a solid, reliable wheelset with easy to get spares you can’t go wrong.

My 2.6 Trailstar Nics came out bang on 2.6″ on a raceface Arc30, fitted fine in a 27.5 boost pile but alas not quite enough room in the back of my T130. Looking to move them on at the minute if you’re interested, only after £60 for the pair, had a single lap of llandegla on them.

No due date on Zyro when I checked this morning, I’ve placed an order as quickly as I could anyway because I imagine they will be popular!

Have been waiting for this for ages! Have just ordered one, was thinking of the dehy kit but this will keep the warranty valid and is cheaper for me! I do like the hydraulic concept verses cable, in my experience I’ve never had a hydraulic hose fail, I have had cables break, including on droppers.

a few hairs over 6ft here and find my Large fits like a glove, love mt T130C RS, one of the best bike I’ve ever owned!

Expensive, but I’m loving my Chromag Ranger stem and Cutlass Carbon bar. The stem is proper solid, a tad weighty at 180g but it is gorgeous and feels substantial. The bar is incredible though, with a wonderfully tuned ride that offers a bit more give than other carbon bars, really helps with the hands on longer, rougher sections. Best bars I’ve owned I reckon

Penmachno or the ClimachX in Machynlleth, though I do like Whinlatter also but only been there once. The climachX has in my view the best descent I’ve ever ridden at a centre, once you know it well you properly hammer down it. Flat as it is I also like Sherwood Pines, it’s a pedal-fest but is great fun on the right bike.

None at the moment, they’re usually pretty good on price so don’t tend to run promo codes. If it’s not a clearance item give them a call they’re usually pretty sound folks and will see what they can do.

I’m a life long Shimano fan and general Sram hater, but Eagle is just next level. It is so much better than anything else out there at the moment that gets close. I’ve found 11 speed Sram clunky and fragile while Shimano is just not a patch, feel wise, on what it used to be. Its solid and reliable but I wasn’t overly keen on my old XT M8000 setup and from the short time I’ve had on XTR M9000 it felt much the same. I actually preferred the older 10 speed XTR with a OneUp Rad cage and Hope expander. Eagle is seriosuly good though and just an extra click on the shifter. It is far, far smoother and lighter feeling than anything Sram I’ve ridden in the past.The shifting is very good and the range is great. I wouldn’t look at much else now and can’t wait for the tech to filter down to a lower level if they can keep the same feel just with a weight penalty.

I would say the M8000 feels “clunkier” than the X01 eagle. In a blind test for shifting feel (leaving shifter ergonomics out of the equation) I’d say most people would think the Eagle was from Shimano as it feels very light at the shifter and smooth both ways on the cassette, up and down and the XT is very much SRAM feeling ime, very definite and clunky!

@IainC, there is an anthem SX, it’s just not bought into the UK, which is weird as it’s probably the one I would imagine most would go for with a 130mm Pike, Super Deluxe shock and a slightly more aggro spec

It’s ace! The black finish on the cassette isn’t the most durable but it still shifts beautifully and feels very, very good. Actually rode an 11-speed XT group for the first time in 6 months since the switch to Eagle and imo it felt like dogturds, really heavy feeling and clunky compared to the Eagle and thats the XT out of the box fresh too! It is crazy expensive aftermarket (mine came on my Whyte) but it is by far and away the best drivetrain I’ve ever used, this coming from a lifelong Shimano Fanboi and general SRAM hater in the past.

The Orange is good, but imo the Whyte is better, felt more sophisticated and controlled than the Orange. Haven’t ridden by the Aeris but a quick look over the geometry makes me wonder if it will feel a bit tank-like, despite the short travel. It’s very very similar to my old Mondraker Foxy, which was fast but felt like too much bike a lot of the time, particularly on tighter trails. The Whyte felt a much better all-rounder to me. The bird is excellent value and you hear good things about the Warranty but my Whyte hasn’t missed a beat so far!

I haven’t ridden mine as much as I’d like but it is by far and away the best sram mtb group set to date. I always felt sram was cheap feeling and pretty poor quality but eagle feels like it’s properly engineered and refined. The shifting is light, consistent and very positive and the range is insane. TBH most of the time I reckon I could run a 36 or even a 38t with Eagle but having that extra low gear with a 34t has left me scaling some pretty insane stuff and I’m hardly at peak fitness at the minute either. Expensive, but very, very good and when it trickles down next year it will be even better I dare say.

Sadly I’ve only had one short ride on the new grips and no time at all on my new Chromag bars to report back :( The bars are 780mm so a fair bit wider and they also have a fair amount of flex built in, certainly enough to see if you really yank on the bars with the bike stood still so should offer a slight decrease in hand/wrist fatigue when teamed with the ODI grips. Will try and remember to report back after my first ride in weeks tomorrow! In the meantime the below review is worth a read, I reckon they’re gonna great bars!

Review: Chromag’s Cutlass carbon handlebar offers an agreeable bend and a soft ride

Got mine from Jenson USA just after Christmas as they had with 50% off, but CRC should have them by the end of next month.

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/chromag-fubars-cutlass-carbon-riser-bar/rp-prod146443

Lawman – if you see this I’d be keen to know how much weight benefit you saw from changing the wheels out? Not that I will for a while but would be good to know if that’s a beneficial upgrade for the future.

I saved 300g with the new wheels and it’s instantly noticable on the trail, bike feels quicker to get up to speed and more agile. It’s still a smidge over 30lb (though admittedly covered in Llandegla grime!) ao it’s not superlight, but then it does have nearly 900g of front tyre and an alloy crankset. I also added weight with a Chromag ranger stem, though the matching Chromag Cutlass Carbon bar bought most of that back, but still only saved 20g overall. I think with some Raceface Next SL cranks and lighter tyres you could get it under 29lbs. I will likely get the cranks when my cycle to work voucher comes up for renewal as I had a set on my old Mondraker Foxy and really rated them, stupid press fit BB aside. Tyre’s I’m not so sure on, I keep looking at the Maxxis Forekaster in work as they’re meant to be under 700g so would save a 2-300g off the stock tyres, but I wonder if it would feel as planted. I would experiment as I used to do but tyres are so **** expensive nowadays!

You need a GXP bottom bracket, Shimano/Sram cranks aren’t cross compatible.

As others have said, rebuild the Pro 4’s onto Arch MK3’s. I recently built some for my T130, the stock wheels weighed over 2kg, switching to pro4’s, Arch MK3’s and Sapim d-light spokes saved 300g, so a fair chunk of weight.

Funnily enough I don’t work for whyte, I actually work in a Cube retailer and we don’t sell Whyte :lol: I could have got a stereo cheaply, very cheaply, but it’s not in the same league of bike as the Whyte.

I wouldn’t say you have to replace the wheels, but if you could it would elevate it to a different level! The list of things the Cube has going for it pretty short. I would say being cheaper is the only one that really stands out, the SRAM eagle kit on the T130 is next level, I don’t usually jump on a bandwagon when new stuff first hits the market but it is really, really good. If you have the money, get the Whyte. If getting it means going beyond your means, get the alloy T130 RS instead :lol:

For the love of god don’t go for the Cube! The T130 will run rings round it on the trail, despite the “heavier” build.

For reference I work in the trade and have ridden both and own a 2017 T130C RS. Yes, I was a bit disappointed that my large as stock with XT trail pedals was just over 30lbs. But it felt great to ride. I swapped the wheels to some lighter Pro4/ Arch MK3’s and it feels even better. Sure you can get lighter bikes, the Cube being one, but it isn’t half as good as the Whyte on the trail. My advise is stop looking at spec sheets. It’s a list on the internet, you don’t ride a bike on a list on the internet, you ride it on a trail and it’s there that the Whyte really shines. Don’t get the wrong the Cube is solid, but it’s dull, uninspiring and I’ve seen my share of problems with Cubes as well. Stick with the Whyte, you really won’t regret it!

I’d go for the Flows, just built up a set of Pro4’s with Arch Mk3’s and Sapim Dlight spokes, look great, are pretty light (1735g) and feel great on the trail.

Love my T130C RS it’s a stunningly good bike, I just the fitness to do it real justice! The Jeffsy looks good spec wise on paper but it’s pretty short and I wouldn’t trust buying direct personally.

Haven’t ridden a flare but would love to have a go. Whyte T130 is the one for me at the minute, I have a 2017 T130 C RS and it’s the dogs!

Ordered a 50mm will see how I get on :)

Looking to change the bars to Chromag Cutlass Carbons, a) because they look cool as fark, b) the dimensions look spot on and c) i hear they’re a little flexier than other carbon bars so keen to see if they improve comfort. My OCD demands I have a matching stem, so looking at Chromag Rangers which I can get with 50% off atm, tempted to buy both 40 and 50mm and just send one back!

@Vortex racing, its a Whyte branded 50mm stem, 31.8mm clamp

I’ve run Crests in the past also and they were a nightmare to get certain tyres, a set of Schwalbe Muddy marys particularly springs to mind, but always got there in the end. Recently fitted my new Pro 4/Arch Mk3 wheels to my T130 and got the tyres on without tyre levers and with my Lezyne overdrive pump they seated first time. Fitted the stock HR II/Crossmark II combo and it was genuinely piss easy.

Stan’s rims seem to be a bit hit and miss with tyres and ease of getting them, it took the guys in our workshop 3 hours to fit a set of Challenge Strada Bianca’s to a set of Grails!