Cheers!

Your approach is more scientific than I would personally go for, as I prefer simplicity, but if it works for you, go or it.

I quite like science , and sums, so doing them is no chore. Not yet anyway 🙂

Routine for exercise will be difficult as I work shifts, as does my wife, and we have three busy kids. However, we do have dogs that get about an hour’s walk everyday by one of us, there’s a swimming pool on the way to work, and while I’m slow – 1 mile (64 lengths) in an hour – I really enjoy it, and our local Thursday night bike rides usually involve 4-500m of ascent followed by 4-500 metres of screaming and careering down again. I would like to return to playing squash but my back, knees and probably lungs are not up to that yet.

The sums give me 2000 calories a day, so I know I have to make the most of those and not consume so-called empty calories.

And I’m expecting to plateau, although I will recalculate the calories sums every 10kg to try and minimise this.

I’m using the FatSecret app on my phone which seems quite decent.

Science, maths and common sense tell me there is no reason why I cannot get down to 80kg / 12.5 stone. Underneath the fat there is a big chunk of muscle though, so I don’t know if that will limit progress if I look at it purely in weight terms? But again, I don’t play rugby anymore, so I don’t need it any more, not all of it.

I find this thread quite disturbing and I am surprised it hasn’t been closed down yet.

A lot do not believe wanmankylungs claims which you are perfectly entitled to do. But to hound him for so long about it threatening to expose him and email strangers details of the thread is sick and you should be ashamed. What is so wrong with your own lives that trying to put others further down into a hole makes you feel good about yourself?

This is nothing short of online bullying.

That’s not an unreasonable comment based on this thread, but you need to bear in mind that WML/TZF/Glupton has an extensive history going back a number of years of trying to be Billy Big Bollocks on certain topics, and making claims that he subsequently gets called out on, which he can’t back up – special driving instructor to the world’s best qualified drivers, the UKs top physiotherapist on completion of his NVQ, stuff like that. You then add to that his inability to admit when he’s wrong or been shown to be talking shit, and it’s hardly surprising that when he comes on a thread to try and show how superior he is people swiftly prove him wrong and call him out on it. That’s why it happens. What’s concerning is that despite all the times it’s happened he hasn’t learnt not to bullshit. And what’s a little sad is that when he contributes something that sounds like it might be right, you cant really trust it.

There are two people at my work who are dead against tattoos, both of them are scousers. We can only assume therefore that it’s because tattoos are easily identifiable, on CCTV or Crimewatch for example.

Legends the pair of them, proper Kenny Senior types.

Cheers OP

Kryton57 – Member
So. I’m a little bit better off, if I vote for and the party with a visible track record of reducing the defecit and decreasing joblessness vs those that caused it & the racists?

Seems all to obvious. What have I missed?

Pudding?

Same sort of thing as that is what I need, I’ll have to go and look at the other options for buying one

Thanks for all the comments, even yours hora 🙂

I’ve put the leasing idea on the back burner. I couldn’t quite persaude myself that last bit to do it, which has been reinforced by this thread.

A little puddle hopper for a few hundred quid deposit and £100 a month, that won’t get ruined by children, still makes sense to me though – if that were my situation!

Pleasure

Bunch of fannies

John, yes I have, I’d be happy with that too, as you say it gives flexibility.

Ok, what do we think of this, from russ295’s website

http://www.gbcardeals.com/outright-purchase-cars/toyota/verso-mpv/verso-estate-16-v-matic-active-5dr-21898

Toyota Verso for £15,000. 5 year warranty, and if I stay by the principal of paying for a car that’s in warranty, a £13,000 loan for 5 years is less than £240 a month.

It has the 3 individual seats, all the safety kit, and a better (reputation) for reliability! Base spec but got everything it needs. Also petrol, but my understanding is that Japanese petrols are often better than their diesels.

Wonder if I could get one of the car seats in the middle (they’re not ISOFIX, they’re booster type ones) giving the big one an outside seat with the legroom?

Can someone point me to the 10k Zafiras?

At school we didn’t aim for the ceiling, but did try to see how far back we could walk and still get it into the urinal. If you had a big enough piss you could get your arse on the radiator. A power piss Was what we called it.

It’s that middle seat that concerns me – a teenager is pretty much adult sized, and between 2 car seats – which in that I reckon can only go in the outer seats. I’ll see if I can look at one, but the Passat was a non starter. Boot is plenty big enough though.

It’ll probably be 40/60 for no kids/kids in it – we’ve an old jalopy that I drive to work most of the time, and I don’t mind that at all. But I want the kids in something decent. And as I say, two or sometimes three times a year we visit family which is a 1000 mile round trip, a day there and a day back. That’s on top of regular 2hr journeys to get to the big smoke for various activities they’re involved in.

Like you, were it just for me, this car would not get a look in!

I’m still playing four different ones – all BVRLA registered – off against each other, including a main dealer, and have so far got the 3 yr cost down by more than 2k. I’ll keep that going until they’re all done.

Tiguan deal looks good – is it any bigger than a Passat inside? Had one of those for a hire car recently and that was too much of a squeeze for the kids.

Look I didn’t mean to come across quite so bluntly! I’m well aware that leasing is some way from being the most cost effective way of getting in a car, and Imwas expecting to have that pointed out 🙂 , but I have thought about all the options for a long time, and this is both affordable and, at the moment for us a little extra for the convenience and lack of hassle has its place.

Again, I would happily drive a BMW, but I’m not so sure I could fit everyone in quite so happily!

Point taken on the mileage, but that would still have an impact on the resale value of anything I ended up owning – less in absolute £ terms no doubt, but an effect nonetheless.

You can. Borrow over 4yrs. Or buy something nice. Sheesh even 9k would get you a nice reliable Honda.

Poor people do what you are proposing – focus on the ‘what I can afford in installments’ avoiding what the impact is overall. You won’t even own the car.

Perhaps I’m fed up of driving older cars with unpredictable and unexpected bills, and perhaps, due to events that I’m not particularly inclined to regale the forum with, I wan’t my family to be in a car that has the most up to date safety features and is reliable (yeah, Citroens, I know 🙄 ) i.e. In warranty.

And I don’t think its only ‘poor’ people who are mindful of their monthly outgoings, and the implications of different figures.

Good point

Ok, suppose you find or can source a nearly new (like daveh’s) or indeed new car, at a massive discount – for example, the one I mentioned above, I can get through a work related discount scheme for £17000 not its list price of £22000 and something.

I still have up to 2k to put down as a deposit. I can’t afford a £15,000 loan over 3 years – that would be £400+ a month.

Can you get PCP style finance independently of a dealer, so get the monthly cost lower and have the option to buy it or walk away at the end?

This would be better right, because I could take advantage of the almost 25% off the list price? (I know the finance companies don’t pay list price though).

Pretty much.

Join Pistonheads as well as STW!? I’d end up like hora.

The folk dooosuk suggested have come up with two quotes…

1) 1.6 diesel VTR+ trim, 18,000 miles, 6+35 at £273 so that’s £1635 down, total over 3 years £11,178, so £3,726 a year.

Or

2) Same but Exclusive trim for £316, so £1756 deposit, total over 3 yrs £12,006, so as good as £4000 a year.

Both of which are better than the first ones I posted.

Dooosuk – thanks for that link, enquiries sent.

b r – We’ve been deliberating for months which is the best option for us, but have decided to go for a lease and evaluate at the end to see if we think it was worth it.

I dId try What Car John, don’t recall seeing anything better on there.

Funkydunc, where is that from and I’ll take a look.

Is that for 18,000 miles or more? And can you get two car seats and a teenager in the back seat in enough comfort for 7-8 hour drives? These are the issues that bump the cost up and limit my options!

Doosuk, thanks, will check them also.

Yeah it’s not user friendly is it! I edited as on checking it clearly wasn’t that.

Nationwide were one I looked at, but as you say, car allowance is required.

Yeah, I know where you’re coming former residuals, but when I was checking this the Grand Picasso was up there with VW’s equivalent the Touran for residual value – it seems to buck the usual French car trend.

Bear in mind also, you can’t get an equivalent BMW or Audi, and family circumstances mean an MPV is what I need at the moment. I’ve not found any better offers on something that will fit my 3 kids across the back seat.

Personal use, not business! No car allowance, it’s purely a personal lease.

All those figures include VAT.

Where are you looking peterfile?

Some years ago I was struggling with severe depression which had lasted for years. Suicide was an almost constant thought. It was invariably accompanied by a devastating mental image of how my older son would react to finding out his dad had killed himself. That thought was equally compelling as the desire to end everything. I got professional help before I moved from the thinking about suicide stage to the planning/perpetration stage , and I’m fine now. I don’t know what happened in this case, but I can see how an overwhelming urge to die plus the thought of leaving a child/children fatherless can lead to this sort of tragedy happening. It goes without saying that it’s inexcusable, but it merits an effort to understand what was going on in his head.

hoonoose – have your desk cleared by 0915 tomorrow morning – you’re fired. If you’re still there at 0930 I’ll be giving my SAS mates a ring to sort you out.

Bird Zero 3 in XL?

CNC Alchemy- nice logo of some guy with a huge wizards sleeve casting a spell over a freshly milled part.

😯

Interesting.

I actually invented CNC machining and I can tell you categorically that misinformed is talking out of his arse.

Toodles

I think he was taking the piss out of the hand wringers.

Trying to win an argument with a semi-educated atheist of at least average intelligence is like trying to ask the tide not to come in. Good luck with that.

That’s probably why he’s chosen to argue with you instead.

Day 1 – God created light and separated the light from the darkness, calling light “day”………..Lost me at Day 1, its ridiculous. allegorical

HTH

Some logs then some kindlers on top then some paper on top of that then a match then shut the door then come back in fifteen minutes to close the vent a bit then in about ninety minutes it’ll need more logs and Robert’s your father’s brother.

Why don’t we just read the books, and sod ‘interpretation’? Oh that’s right, because the books are both full of ‘murder non-believer’ type stuff, and you’d all rather pretend that didn’t exist.

Are you really suggesting taking every verse or chapter literally, without looking at the context (who it was said by, to who, when, where)?

So, taking a completely innocuous verse that doesn’t contain anything offensive. This one for example… ‘But a Samaritan, as he traveled, came where the man was; and when he saw him, he took pity on him.’ Are you saying that the only correct interpretation of that is that a man from Samaria passed by another man and took pity on him?

You should think about why she’s behaving like this and be a bit more sensitive.

Go upstairs and ask her if she’s ‘up on blocks’.