Yes I see what you mean simon NOT!. can you imagine an elite mountain bike event on anything other than performance bikes. perhaps downhilling on hovis's. The better the bike the better the performance the better the experience. OOO jolly gosh it's just as good on a tandem as it is on a santa cruz. Your not an mtb rider simon your a cyclist and to top it all off! your giving out advice like your the second coming of moses.

All this talk and yet nothings getting done. Name 3 countries in the world were the english are welcome and loved ?.

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/profile/whatafackinliberty

WhatafackinLiberty

Aint no way this muppets got any time left over after all this crap to be riding a bike. chuck this fool of unless they can prove they actually own a rig.

meehaja I don't do marches or protests anything like that really. We need control of our resources as a species. They sit there in bank accounts doing nothing. Better we have control of them and can make changes for the better, why bother with all the hoohaa and asking.

Yep that is me. And i'd put my skills at building bikes and tuning them up against any of yours. Infact I have a question for Simon F Barnes which is nagging at me. What kind of a biker spends more on his camera than his bike ?.

Drum roll we have a legend in there own mind amongst us.

ladies and gentlemen of STW we now have a new source of endless entertainment to make those "what tyre for….?" threads worth reading

WhatafackinLiberty I have a dictionary i'm just too lazy to try using it

So is it DOCTOR MEEHAHA

What can i say i'm exausted and in pain. concentrating is very hard but hey i'm trying

Tazzymtb intresting questions i'll need time to contemplate them OOOMMM deep man feelin ya

Since we seem to be wrapping this up, I would like to elaborate on the NHS subject comment I made. I would put across what I consider to be my opinion and perspective. There are a lot of good people in the NHS and yes they carry a heavy burden and deal with more hardship and pain than the rest of us. However the philosophy of those who run the NHS there principles practices and operating procedures are fundamentally flawed. Let us apply the principle and philosophy to a another situation’ what if we never serviced our cars and only after they were damaged repaired them. We can all see that this would not work although some people will try it.

Rather than pump uncountable amounts of resources into the service why not simply invest in stress management and healthy activities that are free!. Why not focus on the cause rather than the symptom. There is no hope as the stress being put on the NHS is becoming more and more’ better to rethink the whole approach that we have as a culture. As a fanatical MTB promoter I think we would be better of becoming more organized and rather than owning one bike that sits there when not in use doing nothing. simply all pool our resources and have a collection of bikes that everyone uses and pays to be maintained. Perhaps this is already happening I don’t know. MTB rider clubs that organize trips and loan out bikes that the owners aren’t using at the moment would be a great idea to me. I’m rambling again but no one will enjoy it as I don’t seem angry.

I am passionate about biking and bike building and look forward to being involved in a lot more threads.

Kael.

Before I forget, why are you bothering to respond then ?.

I don't see it as a waist simon plus who says it's for you ?.

It's been silly from the start. However when in rome. They get to come at me there way I get to do my thing back. I would prefer to have been left out of it. But hey might as well make the most of it now.

I don’t get one thing though! On this site every things cool right, as long as the wording is flowery and polite. What about the motives or actions of those participating in this thread. Maybe it’s just me but I don’t understand that at all' maybe the other users could help me with some explanations.

http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/simonfbarnes

Simon F Barnes a man who's slightest of smiles could scare a deranged rat to death. With teeth like that Simon your Either smoking a lot of something or your rinsing your mouth out with coffee, black! and flossing with liquarice sticks.

Keep your funk in your pants mate, on your face it's a bit much .

Why is there one service for the poor and one for the rich

Do you work in the NHS (no hope service) MEEHAHA

Hey Ratty Racers. I'm tired like most people I make mistakes. Standing I can do walkings a bit harder. If your bored though here's a question for you. Colonic Irrigation, utter madness or the only way to start the day, the choice is yours.

And would the procedure work on your heads do you think ?.

maxray how are you ?. your a daimond in the rough mate. I don't want this to stop, it's about time it happend. Let the vultures show themselves for what they are. Another likeness to the animals I see you to be.

I have stated the procedures and work that has been done and mentioned that anyone who want's too can contact a bike shop and get a qoute on the cost of the work.

That said are the rough parts of your tongues handy as my @ss is itchy.

Hello MTB riders.
Always good to make you guys laugh’ and distract you from your day to day lives for a while.

I know that what I’m about to do will more likely than not destroy my company’ I also realize that the language I will be using will be colorful and imaginative. I reserve the right to express myself in any way I choose when I am provoked. Keep your flowery words and politeness when your intentions are simply to take the piss and mess me about.

I also realize that a lot of you can afford to buy expensive bikes and to service them regularly’ however a lot of people can’t afford a few thousand pounds rig. I may sell frames on ebay I also help out a lot of people for free. I spend my time trying to get people out biking on a budget who wouldn’t normally be able to do it.

Not just flashy clubs for people who can afford expensive cameras and clothing. But so the average person can go as well’ and experience MTB riding.

My spelling is poor as is my grammar I’m admittedly a brain farter and imbecile. But I love biking and to argue with morons.

If you people are so smart and good at accomplishing what you set out to do’ why is our entire way of life from the NHS to the roads then rail and just about everything else we you have, on the verge of collapse.

Rather than spending our time arguing and criticizing each other we would be better of paddling back down from sh1t creek and along the coast a bit, so life doesn’t stink in Britain quite so much. However since we are all having so much fun with this let’s just chuck sh1te at each other and see how much we can get to stick!.

Those of you who agree that I should be targeted by these @sswipes and feel privileged for the experience. can kiss mr winkie aka the mighty midget who dwells in the kingdom of the pants!.

Those of you who feel that there are all too few decent human being left in britain and are sick of all the crap you have to take from day to day. Chuck your opinions in as well

In a f@cked up world what does it mean to be normal ?.

Let’s see if we can’t create us a little sh1t storm shall we and have some fun as well ?.

You seem to be missing the point renton what i'm doing is to help out bikers. I am not intrested in taking sh1t i've had enough of it and i'm also not intrested in having my frames owned by over opinionated sh1t chucking monkeys. Life in britain for me is pretty simple to describe. when you live in a toliet surrounded my fannies welts and @ssholes you can be sure of 2 things people will try and piss on you and sh1ts gonna happen. It's why we invented the flush.

Before I forget why not check simon (cheesy) france @ss barnes cheesy photo here
http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/simonfbarnes?ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:GB:1181

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Here,s the entire email conversation rather than just MTB_crashers version of it. All you sheep that are eating out of this monkeys hands and following him around, aint bikers your peacock posers. You think you have the right to criticize me. I spend all my time getting riders out riding. What are you doing to help the MTB culture in this country other than making out like your intelligent enough to have an opinion and needing to wipe your faces with toilet roll. Sh1t heads

Dear airborne10101,

any chance of this going for cheaper than your buy it now? its pretty tatty looking… and is a 2005 model… you had the shock serviced at all?
– mtb_crasher

No introduction or anything that resembles manners or respect for that matter. This guys chucking everything he can think of in my face as leverage to get the frame cheaper. He know there’s a recession on and weir all doing all we can to survive. One email two questions and a double helping 2x of criticism in the first exchange. This guys a shark looking to get what he wants and be on his way regardless of the effort that’s gone into these frames. This isn’t a trader or a biker it’s a sh1t chucker and a bully.
Dear mtb_crasher,

Hey. it may look tatty here and there but it,s had £130 worth of work done. If you factor that in your getting it for £200. It will run great though and a set of decals from ebay will sort that out. Hope that helps and how much would you like to offer me ?.
– airborne10101

This isn’t a spelling contest it’s a listing for a frame sale and should be judged by that fact. This isn’t about what’s happening though it’s about an ego massage for some deformed twisted ego’s. Some of the arguments are beyond ridiculous but well get into that later. For now let’s look at the emails. All of them not just the altered version mtb_crasher is putting across but my version of them. With my evaluation of the situation thrown in for good measure.

Here,s a run down of the costs for those too lazy or ignorant to look into it’ call a bike shop get a qoute.
Shock air can service £25
New bearings installed £40 to £50
Bearing kit any decent bike shop £40 to £60
BB faced disc brake mounts spot faced rear end alignment checked £20
Checking the whole frame for damage and what brain farter said giant would check it, it,s been used and lots of damage can happen. Unless you’re a bunch of posers more worried about looks than riding what does it matter. If your standing looking at your rig’s you ain’t riding them correctly.
STRUTTING PEACOCKS.
Dear airborne10101,

where has the 130 been spent?
– mtb_crasher

No introduction from this guy at all he simply fires of yet another question and expects that I’ll answer it. I have to right were in a recession and things are hard for us all. This is also my work place’ it might be ebay but I am working and trying to earn a living. As I said this guys a vulture’ petty’ greedy’ manipulative’ I’m not on the bay to meet people like this I simply will not trade with or have anything to do with them at all.

Dear mtb_crasher,

How much is an air can service ?. How much is an hour of work by a qualified bike mechanic and how many hours does it take to service a frame ?. How much does it cost at any decent bike shop to have your BB faced your rear end alignment checked and you disc brake mounts spot faced ?. How much is a bearing kit ?. how much are new inner eyelet bushes for the shock ?. you like questions here’s some for you !.
– airborne10101

Dear airborne10101,

ha ha. what a charmer. i thought the whole point of your epic ebay ad was that you did all of the mechanical/work stuff youself. bearing set is circa 30 squid. eyelet bushings are 6 quid per end.
that gets you to 42… so you charging 90/hr for labour? you must be bloody good!
– mtb_crasher

Just went into great detail for captain ****t face to reiterate the work that’s been done on the frame. However it doesn’t fit the situation so he seems to have forgotten all about it and reduced it to a bearing kit and eyelet bushes. As I said he’s an inconsiderate @sshole. He’s of the opinion I should work for free not bother to pay my bills or survive so he can get a good deal and piss in my pocket into the bargain. He’s a complete and utter banker and I don’t have anything to do with this kind of person. I might be working but I’m not interested in my frames getting abused by mtb_crashers or myself for that matter either.
Dear mtb_crasher,

You watch too much TV come back to reality. sitting there sniffing farts has damaged your wits. 1 hour to strip a frame do the bearings air can service the shock inspect the whole frame for damage inch by inch then realign the back end and face the BB spot face the disc brake mounts check all the cable routing and threads. and a few other bit,s as well. Your waisting my time! your TV addled wits have convinced you that this nonsense is some how an accomplishment. If this is an accomplishment why is it you have nothing to show for it but an ego massage. I,m trying to help bikers get out biking on rigs that are safe to ride, value for money and enable them to experience biking as it should be. What on earth are trying to do and why ?.
– airborne10101

Dear airborne10101,

chillax you loon. im after a trance of this era in large. found yours, was interested, was wondering why it was so much more money than i would have expected… got nothing but BS in response.
– mtb_crasher

Dear mtb_crasher,

Gave nothing but attitude and got the same in return. I do not now nor will I ever be intrested in trading with you!. The reason for the extra amount in price is the 4 to 5 hours work it takes to find the frames service check and tune them then list them and pay the ebay / paypal fee,s and the idiot taxes the government slap on top, more work! more cost! you savve!!!. If you don,t get that fine!, now please go away I have work to do. I,m not intrested in bankers who only see money signs i,m intrested in getting bikers out biking. The riders who research the cost of what i,m doing and know what there talking about! get what i,m doing those are the people the frames are for not for you or your kind. Go else were and don,t email me any more. If memory serves me right we already had this discussion. I hope that explains this for you.
Kael.
– airborne10101

Here’s my version of this bullsh1t maybe it will set the record straight maybe not but for all the decent people left in this country I’ll give you a different perspective on the situation.

I have a protruding disc in my back and have not been able to walk for almost 2 years now due to an injury I sustained enjoying the one thing I love more than anything else’ Biking. as I write this the pain in my back is already mounting. However it is nothing compared to not being able to get onto my rig and get away from all the rat brains and bullsh1t that has come to characterize life in Britain these days. I would give everything I own for 1 hour or riding for 1 hour of exercise exploration and freedom. Those of you who wish to argue about this point and deny me my right to be myself and go about my business. I do not care how many you are I oppose you. I oppose your mentality your attitude and you idiotic soulless ignorance. You want a piece of me ? that’s good, after being denied biking for almost two years and being in constant pain I’m in a bit of a mood.
Let us see what we see lads. Have at it!.

It seems strange to me that while britain crawls out of the recession on it,s hands and knees. long after a lot of other countries have left it behind. We still continue to fight amongst ourselves over nothing. This argument was between a cowardly tax dodging @sshole called MTB_crasher. what ever that's supposed to mean and myself.

I have been unable to walk for the last 2 years due to a protruding disk in my back. I can still only walk every two days and am in great pain and very tired. I am not a drug addict so do not take pain killers. Simple fact is after being in chronic pain for a very long time this kind of sh1t doesn,t bother me. mtb_crasher you sell a lot of stuff on ebay however you do not have a business account. can you tell me if you pay your taxes like the rest of us as I seriously doubt it. You are a worthless retch of an individual. every single person who has mentioned on this thread that your point is week and petty has been pounced on and intimidated. You are a bully and a coward which is why I responded to you as I did.

I can see from your feedback that you have access to expensive frames and that you were not intrested in buying a frame just massaging a crippled and deranged ego. As for the rest of you while in a recession when everyone is dealing with 10X more stress hassle and hardship your all to willing to go along with this sick f@ck. And his pack of psychological jackals.

why not give everyone who's sick of this neddy bullsh!t happening in our country your works telephone numbers lads or emails and we can all let you know what we think of you. Simonfbarns that you believe taking cheap shots at me and scurrying back to these idiots with tales of your heroic deeds is some how an accomplishment f stands for francis right ?.

Well done to all of you' How much better a place is our great country with the likes of you in it. I spend all of my time helping bikers get out biking my feedbacl speaks for it's self. I am not now nor will I ever be an emotional or psychological punch bag and i'm sick of taking sh1t from people who believe they can tell me how to live me life.

Freedom is the individuals right to choose' You do not have the right to tell me how to live my life. You can choose to or not to associate with me but to go out of your way to waist my time character assasinate me on this pathetic thread and before i forget. I am but one man how many of you are there and how open about this have you been. I do not like nor will I deal the likes of mtb_crasher as is my right.
If he tries to come into my life and disrespect me I will simply tell him were to go. Consider what you do and why there are two kind of people who own mountain bikes' The soulles posing tossers and the MTB riders. Me i,m an MTB rider I embrace the freedom the power and the beauty of the riding experience.

Though I cannot ride for another 6 months it saddens me that when I do ride I will never look at other bikers the same again. That you craven rat brained mongrels are out there on bikes saddens me' however it is fashionable to own a bike and try to look good' even if you can't ride for sh1t and your brains are full of it.

GO TO HELL NEDDIES. JUST DON'T TRY AND TAKE THE REST OF US WITH YOU!.