So he’s still going to need them fitted. If he knows little enough about them to have to ask, then he probably doesn’t know the best length for his bike, or have the aptitude to cut his steerer.

A halfway decent salesman would have done the deal, say thrown in fitting or a modest discount and taken the fitting fee. Instead, the “cycle enthusiast with spanner skills and no sales ability” lets someone with the money, who wants a product, out the shop virtually unchallenged.

Thats why bike shops close – staffed by people who think the world owes them a favour. Arrogantly stating “Come to me, I’ll charge you full rrp and fitting is extra mind” isn’t an inducement to purchase these days.

Awaits flaming.

Joolsburger covers it.

Buy a second hand Linn LP12. Have it serviced. Keep for 20 years.

Buy a Naim pre power combo off ebay/sh from a dealer. Keep for 20 years.

Speakers – buy whats best at a proper hi fi dealer (Not dissing Richer Sounds but they’re the Evans of Hifi with the remainder of the budget.

Cheers, I needed a new left shifter and cables both sides – this was cheaper than cables and a s/h shifter off ebay!

Just reserved, local store had in stock, just collected with no issues!

To be honest, I’m sort of with thebuyer of the tube.

Supermarkets don’t sell milk and bread cheaply for no reason, they do it so you go there, and whilst there, spend a lot more than you probably needed to, on other things.

If you’d fitted his inner tube, he’s have told 10 people about what a cracking little bike shop he’s found, they’d have told 10 people ect. Out of that word of mouth, you might have, over the course of a year, sold half a dozen new bikes at RRP and converted them from Halfords shoppers to LBS shoppers.

Last couple of times I went into my lbs for trivial things (a bmx chainring of a 1pc crank) it took 30 secs. I was expecting to be charged at least a fiver proabably a tenner – they had the tools and knowledge – it doesnt matter if its a 30 sec job if I can’t do it!. No charge, so I bought a bundle of inner tubes, and have been back since for locks, lights ect – even when I suspect the local large store in walking distance might be cheaper.

Sometimes, its not about the price, but the value. OP seems to have forgotten that to buy an inner tube, you need to have bought a big ticket item like a bike first, and no one goes through life with one bike! Wasted opportunity, if the sop was quiet, to build a relationship with a customer, put them in “moral debt” to you and win some cheap praise.

I miss their steel hardtails.

My first proper mtb was a Clockwork/c16. It was way better to my mind in handling than the contemporary bikes I could have bought (Rockhopper, GT, Marin so,thing or other), and that think about speccing a frame with a groupset, so any frame in the range could come from Alivio to XTR was brilliant. I then replaced it with two p7’s, which still do duty as my “to the shop/pub” bike. I really don’t care it was a Taiwanese frame, the design was brilliant. Loads of bosses and eyelets to fit things, mut clearance aplenty.

If it’s a 853 27.5 (because no one is going to market a 26 inch these days) P7,then I might investigate this, providing its roughly in line with Cotic/Dialled ect for pricing.

However, we all know the days of Orange doing what imho they did best, well designed steel frames, are past now. Trouble is, they have little to tempt someone “into” the brand. I bet a lot of present buyers are 2/3/4th generation Orange purchasers, many of whom started lower down the range they no longer have – as evidenced by Ebay.

An older Marcos?

There’s loads of bargains for 26 steel at the mo, I can’t decide on which one myself right now.

Dialled PA Classics were reduced to £225, Pipedream Scions have £100 off at the mo £249, and even ON One’s evo appears down to £149. And there are still Dusters for £149 on evay too.

To be honest, you would struggle to get a duff one, but it does make a £500 Soul look expensive…..

The issue is unthinking equality.

Men and women should by and large have equal rights. Sometimes one of the sexes may require more or less rights than the other. Sometimes they require the sole consideration of being “humans”. Such as voting rights, employment rights is all that matters. Sometimes not.

As men can’t get pregnant, say, women require additional rights (rather than men requiring fewer rights). That men don’t live as long should allow for a consideration that they retire earlier, but this is not yet something that is conventionally accepted, showing bias against men in law. As do the various judgements that judges make in childcare and custody matters. It is generally also not accepted men have equal rights in childcare matters. It is also noted that women have not been as successful in careers overall due to the requirement for maternity leave mid break, holding them back.

However regarding sport specifically, if you make a general presumption that the fittest women are not equal in strength to the fittest men, then like for like sport in most endeavors is a long way off – think football, tennis, marathons, biking, anything. As shown say in Tennis, with shorter matches, then it follows that the spectacle of the match or biking, and the speed and distance of the racing, the overall length of the competition or the time/difficulty will have been adjusted downwards for the women competitors.

As such, it seems that the longer, more remarkable spectacle takes precedence in any event, regardless of base sex. If there is a sporting event requiring more “sacrifice” regardless of sex, that should take precedence, however physiologically, I can’t think of anything that women would ever place first in over men, as sport requires strength, which men have the physiological bias for.

Intellectually, we should be even stevens.

Basically, we’re equal, but we’re not the same.

Take the toptube out, straighten that seat tube, and it’s Brant’s homage to Torker/Haro Bmx bikes from the early 80’s?

Torker 280x anyone? With a Redline flite crank, some Araya 7x, CW Pro Bars and a pair of Dia Compe mx1000’s?

For me the oddest thing was, I have a shortish torso to leg length –

I bought a 50cm Bianchi when all the sites say I should be on a 52/53.

Now having ridden it for about 4 years, and stopped riding mountain bikes a year ago when my last one was stolen, I am beginning to find the 50 is too short in the top tube, and that my posture/body shape is slowly evolving to the racer from the mountain bike – In essence, I do now bend further than I did.

So I say, give it time to adapt.

Avast user here –

But just of late, it’s begun to get a bit “sales happy” with its detections and offers of the full paid for package. It seems good, but going in the wrong direction.

Sorry son, but without 4 Browning .303’s, its just not up to the job…

Ju just got one, a cheapo 8g from Virgin for £109.

Its certainly better than my last phone, a Sony Arc Experia S which was twice the price, albeit 18m ago, with the exception of the camera.

Yep -WH Smiths…

Oddly enough, GB’s in Croydon were splendid to me, even though I had told them I couldn’t buy a bike from them as it was a c2w purchase, but I was looking at a Binachi of which they were stockists.

Firstly they couldn’t have been more helpful, sending me off with a handful of catalogues and advice. Secondly, I felt they should have something for their time so I wandered out with a handful of innertubes.

So they did get some sort of a sale, they’ve had repeat business from me since and I’d recommend them again.

Browsing is a 2 way street.

And on my BMX I had a chainring I couldn’t get off a crank. I’d tried 2 days with the wrong tools – popped it into LBS C&N Redhill – took 10 seconds. They refused to charge me, and so I now have more inner tubes than you could possibly imagine! I’ve also gone on to buy lights, locks and things from them that might have been cheaper on line, but I understand where “long term” value is in having a LBS.

Decking could do with a clean and re-treating

If he did that to my bike, decking would certainly be involved.

See, if it had a top and had woon not coal, it would actually be almost a pizza oven!

Real pizza ovens are so hot, they cook a pizza in about3-4 mins, not 12 of your oven at home. I guess a bbq is the same – Base gets hot through and crispy and cheese melts quickly befor the veggies/meats over cook.

Good one.

https://www.itv.com/itvplayer/search/term/Isle-of-Man-TT

Northwind nails it –

I too had a Strika –

The pedal back brake was fantastic. I can’t for the life of me understand how a kid who’s been riding a bike more than, ooh, about 4 minutes, can get it wrong?

When I say drop I don’t even mean a conventional accident, but say pushing paddling a bike in a car park or something daft, even just trying to ride off with a disk lock off –

Put it this way, I’ve beenriding 13 years, and sropped my SV for the fist time (I’ve had it 4 years!) last week, just tripping over a sleeping policeman in my own parking spot I’ve negotiated daily. I just clipped it in my boot, the bike started to go and in trying to save it, my other foot slipped and down it went, gently…..

And years ago, on a ride out, my mate, his learner girlfriend and I leaving their gravelly farm drive. He got to the bottom first, roared off, she used the front brake and skied the front wheel, and down she went. I lept off my bike to get hers off from her (she was underneath it) and out of the corner of my eye, having left the engine running I was in such a rush, on the slightly unstable and downhillslope, as I was pulling her bike off her, saw mine, riderless,just gently roll off the kickstand forwards and down it went – I could have saved it, but would have meant dropping the other bike back on my mates girlfriend!

Its the slow speed stuff that gets you, rather than the high!

Without a car, there are things you can’t do on the spur of the moment – take an old telly to the tip, pop down to Ikea for a bookshelf – turn up neat and tidy at a wedding, pop a mountain bike in the back and go somewhere nice, ect ect.

Commuting through the winter can be pretty miserable on a bike. If it’s a bit icy, freezing, you cant feel fingers/toes, your helmets fogged/salted up so you cant see, you wont see the blackice that gets you – you really don’t have a chance with 2 wheels rather than 4. And if you do ride through the winter, you will really need 2 sets of decent quality kit – 1 winter and 1 summer. You don’t want winter gloves when the suns out ect.

I don’t have a car, I just have an SV650s, but in winter, for a couple of months when the weather dips or a week of rain is forecast, I can at least use the train to get to work, and I live in the centre of a town 5 mins from a supermarket.

Oh, and I don’t know anyone who didn’t drop their first motorbike – theres a lot more skill/observation/experience required to be filtering through traffic than a car. You’r only at the foot of a journey how to learn to ride. I’d get a second hand bike, just so it costs less when you inevitably bin it. The issue with bikes is when you find the limits, it all goes wrong very quickly, in a way thats hard to save, unlike cars.

Set yourself a goal of the money the guitar is valued at – and then do charity stuff to the value of/fundraising – enter a sponsored bike rode or two, and when you get to your goal, message the guy saying as he wouldnt take the cash, you donated it, but his giving the guitar was the spur for you doing so – so you got something nice, you were motivated to achieve something, and then you did something nice, and its all down to him!

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You see plenty of people drinking coffee at the wheel, why is lager any different?

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Is that a serious post??

In fairness, the poster has never knowingly consumed six caramel latte’s at Starbucks and then gone home to beat his wife…..

I think youll find the manager is incorrect it was an act of god,unless you can prove the management of the tree was negligent eg decayed or unsafe in some way, claim off your insurance and hope they reclaim off mc d insurance either way youve made a claim and your premium will go up.

Res Ipso Loquitor. (The fact speaks for itself).

A healthy tree wouldn’t just fall under those conditions. The poster is sort of right that there are risk assessment schedules that the management must comply with in inspection of trees in places likely to cause some sort of damage or injury, and failure to comply, or alternatively identify the defective tree in such a survey would be negligent in itself, giving rise to a claim as the civil law tort of negligence has been breeched by a failure of the surveyor in their duty of care.

And who decides what these rather ill defined “Higher duties” are?

Sounds like the usual knee jerk ill thought out politicians revenue raising bollocks to me.

I don’t, its very “cheap”.

Why doesn’t the person who vandalised this stand for Parliament with his ideas and see if they stand up to scrutiny.

Its always easier to boo from the cheap seats than be performing on the stage, and it’s a free country, anyone can stand if they want.

Fit is more important on a road bike imho, and the published guides don’t take much account of physiological differences.

I should really be riding a 53cm, according to any guide, but with my short top body, I could barely hold the bars on a bike that size, and ended up with a 50cm which is nearly perfect.

You need to try them really.

Say she’s not yours, just one you found in Portugal a few years ago?

system restore to the last good working point?

There was some sort of update to windows xp (the last one before MS withdraws support) which has messed things up. Might be linked to that if its only just happened.

Or alternatively a virus/malware. I use malwarebytes which finds a lot, and cc cleaner, with Avast Anti Virus, which seems me reasonably safe.

Have you ever, an aside, ever noticed how many people selling bike bits seem to have sudden and unexpected personal issues between taking the money and posting the item. Its like having 6 dead grans when you need a day off from work, and funeral 7 comes around……

I bouht a frame of Ebay last december, 3 weeks later still not arrived and communication was “intermittent” to say the least.

It then got advertised here a month or so ago…. :-( By a new user with no record of posting abusing Hora, reminiscing over Tandemjeremy or any of the usual chat threads.

Maison Velo Reigate or C&N Redhill?

Geoffrey Butlers South Croydon?

The latter two are shops I’ve had decent service when I’ve been in for bits/advice. The first is newish,but may have something to do with the second.

The Hare at Lambourne Woodlands? A long time since I visited but was very very good back then? Off the M4 at the A338, turn right, then first left and a mile or so on from that on the left hand side?

It’s got a very active BMX club and track.

And an Ikea.

When Orange build a Clockwork with correction for 120mm forks, using 853, that will do.

I had a terrible experience in 2009, where I used them to source my cycle to work scheme bike.

They ordered me a bike from a brand they don’t usually stock, and it was delivered promptly when they said it would be. The staff were friendly and knowledgeable and the bike itself was well set up. The person doing the transaction even asked if I wanted the naff reflectors fitted that it came with before I left, were happy to do so, but assumed I’d not want them. They were right.

Overall I still have sleepless nights knowing they’d allowed me to leave the store with a a non fat tyre, non rigid, non singlespeed with clown wheels bike that might not fit into an Audi.

Dentons the one for me.

She’s manipulated Dryden into the call, probably arranged with Prasad for the child to be taken to him in the car for the photos, blackmailing as a psycho for the termination. Remeber how sharp she was in episodes 1 and 2 with getting records ect.

I just don’t get yet how she ties in with the witness protection.

Practically, I am a *ahem* smaller man.

I don’t really get a toe overlap on my 26 inch, with a17 inch older p7 frame. I do get it on my Bianchi racer with a 50cm frame with larger tyres.

Would I be at least halfway coddect in assuming that for mucking about in the woods (and thats really what 90% of people with MTB’s do) and that I rarely get up to “full speed ahead Me Sulu” anyway, that for me, the 26 is a better wheelsize?

Were I 6′ something, it may well be that a different wheelsize might suit.

Rather than whats best overall, isn’t is mroe about whats best for your purposes given your own size and riding style?

The leather is tougher than usual DM footwear. They are designed to be more hardwearing. How that translates into comfort, I don’t know, as the joy of DM’s are that they do change shape to your foot to a greater extent than usual shoes.

Best suggestion is to pop into a DM shop and try them. (Brighton, Covent Garden, ect) You may not like them. Many are not so keen. I’ve seen people in the shop try them and not be smitten.

To be honest, I have 2 pairs, 1 black, 1 brown of ordinary DM’s, and wearing in rotation, I have had over 2 years and they are barely worn on the leather (I do polish them fairly frequently too).

I don’t expect to replace them for at least a year or so longer, and for hygiene reasons are happy to get 3 years + out of daily footwear. I just don’t see the need to spend twice as much, when my present footwear is costing less than £2 pm. I have bigger issues in my life.

Its always worked thus :

Your chocolate is “couples chocolate”.

Her chocolate remains hers.

Gifts to you both are “her chocolate”.

Clear?

Indeed, one of my favourite quotes is :

“Men love women because they are the loveliest things on Gods earth. Women love men because chocolate cannot mow the lawn.”