Cheers for the responses, some good news 🙂

Has there been anything more come to light on this subject in the last month?

Northwind

Thank you mate, you are wise 🙂

Ive decided to go for a Bos Vip’r.

Looking forward to testing it out.

See…. to all the manly men, form and function in a little package of joy!

I hear you there …. Cheers kimbers.

I like the RP23 performance wise, I just think it looks like I have a polished turd on my bike, what the hell is wrong with that!?!

Seen em on pink, pretty lame if it is an April fools haha

Sorry if I sound off here, I’m not sure I understand the point you’re making, of course it’s about the bike.

I still see no problem with the question posed! Form and function in equally high proportion.

Is that the black and grey push shock body upgrades?

I’m not sure what’s wrong with that?

Function and form are equally important, not to all but to many of us, we all want our rides to look the part as much as we want the ride quality!

Yeah, I don’t like the kashima colour, so I thinking it looks daft haha

I’m all about the kit being the best it can be, lightest, plushest, etc….however like many the overall aesthetics of the bike is important.

So if with some direction I can find a shock that will offer the same feel of the RP23 I would be delighted.

Antur is awesome, can’t wait to go in the summer, I’ve only ever been battered half to death by fearce wind and rain, fingers crossed I’ll catch some nice weather.

Must get my ass to BPW, looks like a top day out!

Anyway the crux of the matter…… I see BOS in my future 🙂

Cheers all.

Some great advice, and your right Mindmap3 I can always sell em if I don’t like em 🙂

Northwind – cheers very useful, my type of riding is ‘black’ trail centres and light DH (Stiniog/Cockhill/etc..) so nothing massive but testing at high speeds. Maybe the Deville’s are the perfect big trail forks…..We will see 🙂

Well justified or not the missus is gonna kell me, another £450 on the bike haha

Wish me luck!!!!!

That’s the thing Hob Nob, having gone from Deville to Lyrik is there really a huge difference with them, is this the real world comparison I’m after 🙂

If they make a world of difference and feel plusher, smoother, firmer, and all the other buzz words we use to describe the improved feeling of control then it’s game on.

If on the other hand they’re a tiny bit better, a few grams lighter but in all honesty the lay person (in this instance me) wouldn’t have a clue, then I have to ask myself if it’s a truly worthwhile investment.

Aesthetically speaking I think the Deville’s will look awesome, not sure how to put pics on here, so here’s a link:

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/10736278/

So it’s Pitch with a fairly burly spec.

Pitch 2011
Raceface D2 stem
CraneCreek S2 HS
Hope Mono Mini Pro – 203mm Alpine Rotors
Lyrik 160mm RC2DH 2010
Kashima RP23 200BV
SRAM X0 RedWing derailleurs & shifters (2×9) PG990 Redwing cassette
TruActiv Chain Device & Hope Bash
GXP II Crankset/BB (soon to be Saint)
Stan’s Flow EX Hope Pro 2 Evo hubs, laced; DT Swiss Champ D’Butted
Hans dampf 2.35
Renthal Fatbar 780mm 20mm
Nukeproof electron pedals
Reverb
Charge spoon

Some might say stop wasting money on an inexpensive frame and I know there are ‘better’ frames out there, however I absolutely love the feel of this bike. More so than any other bike I’ve bought/rode, I sold a year old Norco Sight SE for a song to build the Pitch, having had a weekend on a friends, the love is that deep haha

So IF the Deville is going to take me one step closer to my MTB nirvana then happy days 🙂

Dam’it I may have to put my hand in my pocket haha

I was looking at Pikes and heard great things but everywhere I look Bos comes up trumps.

mindmap3 – do the fox seals work effectively?

Cheers for the responses by the way 🙂

Well that answered that haha and I will just on the coolness factor have to walk down that road 🙂

He’s still wanting £450 for the Devilles but I’ll get £250-£300 for the Lyriks, so not cheap persay but they are in really good condition.

The reviews I’ve read have been taking me in that direction, it more the real world comparison I wanted to take stock of. If they are noticably better, lighter, stronger, faster, then it warrants the cost, albeit thay I’ll only have to shell a couple of hundred.

Will have a google on the topic.

Cheers for the swift answer 🙂

Ta very much 🙂

You’re probably right, though its running pretty awesome at the moment.

Its a custom build Pitch Comp 2011 the crank is the only original part.
Pitch 2011
Raceface D2 Stem
CraneCreek S2 headset
Hope Mono Mini Pro (Goodridge hosing)
203mm Alpine rotors
Lyrik 160mm RC2DH forks 160mm
Kashima RP23 200BV rear shock 150mm
SRAM X0 RedWing & shifters Carbon fibre/Red CNC Aluminium (2×9)
SRAM redwing PG990 cassette
TruActiv Chain Device
GXP2 Crankset
SRAM GXP BB 
Hope Bash Guard
Hope pro 2 Hubs 
Stans Flows EX Rims
Hans dampf 2.35 (Tubeless)
Renthal Fatbar 780mm 20mm rise
Nukeproof electron pedals
Rockshox Reverb 125mm dropper post
Charge spoon saddle

Not bad overall, pretty rugged.

Not in a rush to do rampage in all fairness haha

Sorry the the crank I have at the mo is the GXP2 its my the rest of my running gear thats X0.

Running X0 redwing everything and I’ve always thought it was good gear. I was only going to the Saint crankset because I was under the jmpredsion it was a better set.

Both bikes have 68mm BBs so I’m guessing its a case of check em and swap em.

Looks mint!!!!

Del – I’m starting to think that way!!!!

The crankset isn’t the original I don’t think, looks like this one.

Will need to check the BBs will fit in either bike, it’s the BB shell I need to measure I’m guessing.

Bought a BB spanner, not checked if it will fit both, fingers crossed.

http://www.canecreek.com/headset-fit-finder

Check it out, headsets are murder at times!!!

Hope and FSA have similar tools, measure up the steerer tube if you struggle to find your bike and use hopes website to work out exactly what you want.

See it’s never simple haha

Mine are gold caps but black casing.

I’m told the ally on the bore cap is soft as so you need the tool and a steady hand!!!!

Hi Edd,

Would be useful, how much do you want for it?

Cheers,
John.

Cheers Simon 🙂

Part code and everything HBSP127R

Stockist….

http://www.ukbikestore.co.uk/product/383/hbsp127_128/hope-mono-mini-bore-cap-and-o-ring.html

Happy days…. Very helpful thank you 🙂

good gear though 🙂

It’s horrible emailing Superstar, they literally can’t be arsed haha

Nice one dave, I looked at that but wanted a second opinion 🙂

Apologies I bought a Superstar AM491 wheelset with their standard Evo Switch Hub.

Looks like a replacement hub is all of £50 but rebuilding a wheel looks like a total pain!!!

Cheers for helping 🙂

In Warrington so a fair distance unfortunately, however thank you very much 🙂

Does the lack of a jig make it a right ball ache? My intention was to do it on the bike, once it’d been pieced together of course.

It looks like a right pain in the proverbial haha but do able all the same 🙂

Cheers all, went off line before I got your responses.

That link is pretty good, cheers Walla 🙂

Fingers crossed the weather is alright when I get there then, not rode Afan before, looking forward to it

I think it’s the same in most places at the moment, I’m further north, but we are in pretty pants shape as well, everything is saturated!

About the only place that’s managing is Llandegla, not sure if that’s a bit too far for you. Still really good riding 🙂

Interested in hearing about Afan, visiting Celtic Manor with work in a couple of weeks so was going to bring the old Pitch along for a blast!

Running Hans Dampf and (at least I think) I’m a fairly capable rider, I’m no Atherton but confident in most settings.

Ride a Pitch on 160mm Lyriks and 150mm RP23 so it can handle most things. I ride more AM and Trail Centres than anything else, but happy to hit Stiniog (blue/red, not done the black yet), Cockhill and other such DH Trails, there aren’t many in our neck of the woods. That said the DH trails aren’t anything massive or overly extreme!

Just concerned in case I find myself at a near vertical angle all day with 10ft gap jumps every 10yrds haha

What’s the Stanton like to live with, I’ve heard good things?

Chiefgrooveguru

I’m pretty much going to do what you suggested.

It will take a little while longer to get the BFe but at least then I can have either option, just a few hours rebuilding 🙂

Nice one Rusty Mac, Pauls Cycles are awesome!!!!!