Check out exposure[/url]. I’d recommend the diablo, but the joystick or even the new sirius may fulfill your needs.

Taff
Is it only 4:1 you get this with?

Well yesterday I tried a bottle of 2:1 before going out with just water in the pack. No bad reaction. Then I had some 4:1 when I got home just to check, and again no reaction which is pretty confusing.

TurnerGuy
Try using milton to sterilise instead.

That’s what I was using.

Factor in the cost of a bushing/bearing kit and a shock and fork service on a second hand bike. I’d definitely rather have a warranty and a new bike. Having said that I’d rather a shop I could walk into to deal with any potential issues.

TroutWrestler

they got sucked in between the tyre and the saddle. I had to check for blood. Beyond eye-watering.

Makes a very distinctive noise doesn’t it?

aff – Member

The stomach cramps is 4:1 and not your camelbak. I use bottle most of the time now and get the same. I’ve always had this issue with High5 which is annoying as its a great performer

I had suspected that too Taff but I had been using it for a few months without any bad reaction. I was off the bike for about 3 weeks there and now it’s given me problems on all of my recent rides since getting back out. Might be a combination of things.

I think I’ll stick to water tomorrow as I am travelling too far to have my day ruined but I might try going back to the 2:1 on a few local rides and see how that goes.

Marketing I believe they call it.

I’ve used them back to back and the difference in power is barely noticeable if their is any but the slx do feel more solid, both in brake feel and construction. Less lever wobble. Not something you notice on the trail, more of a car park factor but the deore are excellent. Owned them for 6 months, now on XT, which are nice!

ton

jimjam, that is a very nice looking bike.

Thanks very much mate, I don’t think the photo does it justice though. rides even better than it looks anyway.

I am on my second and they are excellent. The AMR is the best trail bike I’ve ridden, no wonder it got trail bike of the year in a bunch of tests.

I’ve just recently built up this to play with.

I’ve actually done exactly what the person in the op’s post did. I was walking into a shop when a woman in a Audi estate almost ran me over. I had to step out of the way but I gave the window a good hard slap to wake her up.

Now, the thread title is “would you step behind a moving car?” but in this instance I was walking through the car park. I saw the woman get into the car but I didn’t expect the car to just shoot out. She didn’t give so much as a glance, just fired the car up and launched it out of the space in reverse. When I am leaving a car park in my car I take care to look for pedestrians and other vehicles, I don’t just go. No, I wouldn’t walk around a reversing car, but if I am walking past a stationary car in reverse I expect the driver to be looking out for me.

In my case, had I been elderly, or a mother pushing a pram, or indeed another car there would have been more serious repercussions as I doubt there would have been any chance of avoiding a collision.

For what it’s worth the woman in the Audi appologised, furthermore to policemen who were walking out of the shop saw the incident and had a wee word with her. She was probably off her tits on prescription drugs, she clearly wasn’t focused on the task of driving.

GW

Seriously doubt you can build any 160mm bike under 29lb and keep it strong/stiff.
Which begs the question, why would you want a weak build on a long travel bike?

No, it’s pretty easy. Still not cheap but far from impossible. Getting it under 26lbs whilst keeping it strong and durable would be more of a challenge.

Strength and stiffness are relative terms of course but most 160mm carbon frames and am components are very very stiff these days and pretty strong.

davidjohn

From the inside out is awesome.

I was really disappointed by it. Some great stuff in there, but it just seemed disjointed, short and the soundtrack really grated on me and seemed out of whack with the on screen action.

torbster – Member

It appears that popular consensus is the Fuel, I have just also been strongly recommended the Norco Sight 2 and see this won trail bike of the year. Any experience of these out there?

The Norco is a great bike, just be mindful of the fact that it’s 140mm with a relatively slack head angle. The previous models were 120mm and felt very much like the old 120mm spesh stumpjumper/camber/ghost amr, unsurprisingly.

Speaking in huge, sweeping generalities, a 120mm bike will be a bit more sprightly and engaging on single track than a 140mm counterpart. You may find that a typical 140mm bike, out of the box will feel a bit slower, possibly a bit heavier than a simialarly priced 120mm bike, but these can usually be overcome with set up or component choice.

Quite a few segments from Strength in Numbers are on Redbull’s yootoob page. Spectacular stuff. 3 minute gaps is worth a shout too. Follow Me is probably my favourite from the current crop.

Really? Explain the bullshit then and give us your exerience on riding a hardtail and a full sus and why you would need more than a trail HT for riding trails?

Define “trails”.

I currently ride a Specialized Rockhopper which I love but it’s time to move to a full sus bike. I ride mainly trails (not a downhiller) and love a bike to be quick and responsive as well as a good climber.

The options in my head are:

Specialized Camber Expert
lapierre Zesty 314
Mondraker Tracker RR
Ghost AMR 5900

I know bike choice is subjective but does anyone know if any of these have obvious flaws or can anyone make a recomendation?

Thanks,

TC

I’ve ridden all of those bar the mondraker, which I can’t comment own and I own a ghost amr. The zesty is a bit more than a trail bike imo. The camber and the amr are very similar but without knowing what model your looking at, and what damper it has it’s still hard to make a real comparison. The damping on the amr is better than some bikes at more than twice the price.

The Meta AM is very far away from what the op has described. It’s incredibly long, low and slack. No trail bike.

Well it’s got iscg tabs so any you want really. Hard to look past a blackspire stinger.

grum

There was a video a while back of a guy in Portugal doing huge drops and jumps and generally ‘pinning it’ on what looked like a £50 supermarket full suspension bike (until it snapped and he broke his neck).

EDIT: I am too cynical.

I think MTB is a relatively expensive sport.

Still cheaper than jogging though.

That’s so subjective though, it’s not really that clear cut. Someone may love golf, have a cheap set of clubs and play at ‘pay & play’ type courses. Whilst they’ve bought a £6000 MTB, but not really enjoyed it.

Of course it is subjective, and naturally I will be biased and will argue that I see more value in a bike. As I see it if I wanted to play golf 3 times a week, even with basic gear the average cost would be about 1k a year, just for the privilege of playing. whereas I “could” buy a rigid singlespeed with v-brakes for not much money and ride it 3 times a week for next to nothing for several years.

jambalaya

Mountain Biking is more expensive than golf, bike costs more than a set of clubs, maintainence costs more than club membership

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. I’m sure you could steal some clubs and putt some balls around your street but the truth is anyone who is into the sport will spend quite a bit. You can easily spend a few hundred quid on one golf club and my nearest golf club’s annual membership fee is £915 a year.

Anyway what I meant was that it was cheaper, relatively speaking for what you got out of it. Meaning, for an initial outlay of maybe 300-500 quid you could get a vehicle that could take you anywhere and do some very exciting things, and make you fit while your at it. Or for the same outlay you could buy some some fancy clubs, in a bag. And not have anywhere to properly use them for free.

Jesus sometimes posting on this site feels like arguing with children.
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It’s not cheap compared to say….jogging. But it’s cheaper than offshore powerboating.

But really I think it’s cheaper than golf or similar for what you get out of it.

really? contradicts your earlier statement doesn’t it?

I doubt it’ll be substantially cheaper

I don’t see that it does. £300 quid more or there abouts for something handmade in Germany with exquisite craftmanship and legendary build quality, or just another taiwanese frame. I don’t see that as a massive difference.

You being a qualified manufacturing engineer and all?

I didn’t realise it was necessary to be a qualified manufacturing engineer to have an opinion, but then I forgot I was on STW.

So why make ridiculous comments like this?

Knollys look like a linkage driving a linkage for the sake of uniqueness/patent laws,

Because I wasn’t making comment based on how the bike rides, simply an observation that the knolly linkage appears to be unnecessarily over complicated. But I have of course forgotten myself again, me not being a suspension kinematics engineer unlike yourself.

Is this based on any experience or just an assumption?

Well, from what I can see the Knolly is about £300 quid cheaper, assuming we are talking about a stock Nicolai. So, that’s not experience or assumption. That’s just the price. Having looked at many Nicolai’s and a few Knolly’s I would say that the quality of workmanship and finish on the Nicolai’s is superior. Vastly so. I haven’t destruction tested either though, so I guess that might be purely superficial. Given Nicolai’s legendary build quality though I really doubt it.

I’ve ridden knollys and 4 bars. The knollys ride nicer IMO

I think it’s pretty pointless to try and make sweeping generalities based on linkage types, I’ll just say that if you like the way the Knollys feel then good for you. I can’t say I thought they were remarkable, but then again I haven’t spent much time on one to set it up right for me.

those Canadians know a thing or two about mountain biking.

Yeah but those Germans know a thing or two about engineering. Not least Kalle Nicolai.

Euro how about a Ghost AMR 5700?

Jimjam on here has one and raves about it’s all round brilliance and after following him up and down some little hills the other day, I can see why.

Yes, that’s true I will happily rave all day about how good my Ghost is. It’s a bloody ripper of a bike and punches way above it’s weight in every way.

wrecker

it’ll be cheaper and manufactured just as well.

I doubt it’ll be substantially cheaper and I reeeeaaaaally doubt it’ll be just as well made. Knolly’s 2 year warranty, and Nicolai’s 5 year, transferable warranty (which also includes racing) seems to back that up.

To me the Knollys look like a linkage driving a linkage for the sake of uniqueness/patent laws, whereas the Nicolai is a proper 4-bar. I’ve ridden a few Helius, one of which was set up to my liking and was just stunning.

cynic-al

So no one has even suggested any real -world tangible benefits of this helmet?

M A R K E T I N G – H Y P E !

legspin

Screams try hard and all the gear to me

Say what you like about it, having tried one on I can tell you it is the best fitting and most comfortable helmet I have ever worn. By some considerable margin. Most people who try them say the same. Unfortunately I can’t stretch to the price tag but if I could, I would have no hesitation in getting one.

Stumpjumper or Ghost AMR Plus.

Wear whatever the f*** you want and stop being a sarky troll maybe.

mikewsmith

Her comments were probably around the last 3 courses which all ended in Freeride/dirtjump style tracks.

Many WC tracks finish on 4X tracks and have been that way for donkeys, so the finish/viewing area is the same. Or did you not know that?

Omar Little – Member

A fistful of dollars and yojimbo
The magnificient seven and the seven samurai

I didn’t bother mentioning them as I would say they are “re imaginings” and anyway, as good as they are they are vastly inferior to the originals.

Interesting

I never knew that Scarface was first made in 1932!

And based on this

The Thing – i’ve not watched the remake because the original was ace and i gathered the 2011 version would be toss

I’m guessing you don’t know that the Thing is a remake of the 1951 file The Thing from Another World. The recent film was a prequel to the remake.

And you didn’t know the Fly was a remake either? tut, and indeed tut.

For what it’s worth I thought Assault on Precinct 13 wasn’t bad. The original has a culty retro charm to it, like most John Carpenter films, but it’s hardly a masterpiece.

Scarface. The Thing. True Grit.

Lumpiness I would imagine might have been down to the shock setup as I found it to be very plush and the full floater worked well. The geometry of the bike didn’t work for me though.

Could/should be a great bike. The suspension works really well but I found it to be far to steep and short for my liking. very heavy frame for what it is too.

Bullet
Cheers Jimjam – my thoughts are to keep an eye out in the sales for a AMR7700 or 9000. I have a Hustler at the moment which I love but want something that hopefully rides the same but is a lot lighter. How do they size up – I have stumpy legs so thinking of going for the smallest size, will need a test ride I guess to be sure.

Size wise I went for a 48cm. I’m just a hair under 5’9. I fitted a 50mm stem and wide bars straight away and that feels perfect for me. It also makes it feel better balanced and more purposeful than most 140mm bikes I’ve ridden. They’ve all got good standover, and are proportionally long. I like a long top tube and a short back end so the 48cm with 50mm stem felt natural right away.

Obviously the hustler is 140mm, and the amr 120. If you want like for like a closer counterpart would be the amr + which is 150mm, but really the 120mm Amr is so controlled it punches waaaay above it’s weight. I’ve ridden my sx trail once in six months since getting the ghost.

I’ve got a 2012 AMR 5900. It’s a stunningly good bike, so much so that I am planning to upgrade the whole thing lock stock and barrel. Ask me any specifics and I’ll happily answer them.

Definitely twunts. I didn’t see any skill either, just a willingness to act like an asshole.

The Lapierre X-Flow 712 is the best climbing 120mm bike I’ve ridden. I’ve not ridden that many to compare but have ridden all the main maestro, horst link and single pivot competitors.

Many good trollsing.