yeah was gonna say if you’re go over the car n fiddle why on earth would you want to do it on a road bike? If you’re short of time get the train to mac and ride up through the forest starting the leather smithy arms, take the track upwards, with the pub on your left straight in front and to the left, climb climc climb, after a mile or so of hill take a track through a gate to the left, climb climb climb, stay on main track with no deviations till you come out of the forest to a tarmac road, turn right, when the forest ends there’s another track turning to the right, go down there, awesome bit of downhill, come out at the chapel, go past the chapel in front (off road, on grass and dirt) and prepare for a gnarly bit of stone strewn downhill V steep, when you come out of there, turn left come to a Junction, turn right then climb climb to the cat n fiddle. There’s another bit of off road directly opposite the pub leading over the moor, which is pretty fast. After that there’s load of off road stuff but it would take long!!