Both loops together are about 30km

What make of hub do you have, if its a Hope proII you can easily change from 20mm to 15mm..

As above too expensive just to leave to rot, clean and lube after every ride, don’t see the point in not bothering.

Great vid looks like a fun group 😀

Had mine 2 years no issues just a bit slow when temp gets really cold -5degs and below. Never serviced it always wipe it over with chain lube before each ride same with my fork stanchions.

Chris king taper head set has two crowns available 1 1/5″ and 1 1/8″ I had both for my Orange 5 and swopped between forks taper and 1 1/8″ no problem.

745-750 for me but they don’t feel right on a longer stem to me, 40-50mm is the best feel again for me, tried a 65mm stem felt strange. depends on your build , I have some 760mm on my hard tail and they do feel too wide, will hacksaw them soon, you have to try it and see if it feels ok to you, some trails with trees do require some care, but you get used to it, they may not be for every one , plenty of peeps saying its all hyp , my mate cuts his 680’s down thinks they are too wide so its each to their own.

Great results , I was 152 absolutely wrecked my knee slipping down a bank in the first 3 Km so jogged, walked most of it, bike was ok just had to spin the big hill then blast the rest, had to stop 3/4 way up the killer climb on the last run couldn’t bend my leg, had to heave myself up using my arms and one leg 😀 really enjoyed it though , would have been nice not to have jiggered myself so soon in, all part of the fun I guess. 😀 yes some dodgy biking going on but I was a dodgy runner so it all evens out..

Great fun ,, struggling with the stairs this morning 😀

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Llandegla yesterday afternoon was unrideable so much frozen films of water on the trails couldn’t climb anything, had more grip on my bike than on my feet, new tyres , 20psi no grip.

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Mine kept my stantions clean and only a couple of bits of mud in my face 😀 must put it on my new bike forgot about it.

That drop is on the Freeride area, which you can pick up at the end of the trails next to the pump track, I would go Llandegla Saturday, the Duathlon is using the Red route from what the paper work says maybe a mix of Red and forest you never know, it starts around 12 and finishes at 3 so there is still the morning free and late afternoon, on the Sunday.
Wednesday the trails where dusty my bike is still covered in a layer of it 😀

A couple of drops on the freeride area but the rest of the trails no big drops , most stuff can be rolled but go quick and its a blast,
I guess for us mere mortals even the small drops are fun.
must save up and get Jedi’d 😀
There is a Duathlon on this Sunday so maybe busy in the carpark 200 entries including me short fat guy running round 😯

Trails will be deadly until this rain and freezing conditions go, its ubber slippy out here.

I live in wrexham area will keep an eye out , f***ing scum bags.

TT is quite short doesn’t feel short when riding, it actually felt a bit too long a reach for me so I’ve put a shorter stem on, not tried it yet, my Orange 5 with a 40mm stem sometimes felt slightly too long for me so I’m hoping this bike will be a better fit. I’ve a funny body geometry.

Found out how to display pics 😳

lee93 they are replacement one with ceramic bearings , KCNC, my old jockey wheels were worn away .

Highly skilled technician fitted my chain Rorschach was his name 🙂

goto say the new Xtr 10 speed shifter is a dream compared to my XT didn’t think it would be so much better.

Its now dusty does that count 😀

I would have bought the Nickel but I am planning on an XC bike to race so wanted to step further away and go a bit bigger bounce, help compensate for my lack of ability. 😀

wors,

5 v Butcher, well climbing biggest difference pro pedal was off, 5 really does need it on, Butcher just trundles up all the hills no fuss, techy bits plenty of grip , pretty icy today so was a steady ride blasted it in a few places, to me the 5’s strongest virtue was down hill, and the Butcher seems to match it , if anything it was a bit twitchy compared to the 5 but quicker through the twisty sections, I think the wheel base on my 5 was longer , I had a couple of years to set my Orange up so it was perfect for me the new bike will need some fettling, I think a shorter stem more sag on the rear will get things better, I have some offset bushes which I may just try nudge the fork out a bit and drop the BB , but thats for another day,
My 5 was 30.8lb and the Butcher is 30.55lb so not much in it,
my fork, wheels , brakes , seatpost all came off the 5 so build wise it will be a similar weight.
To be honest they do feel very similar, I would say the Butcher had a more refined feel to the suspension, can’t wait for some warm dry trails.

I bought these for my Tech 4’s they go onto the brass bit that goes into the hose and then screws into the lever assy , goes between the lever assy and the brass bit. 😀

Just take the girls saddle off I borrowed my wifes heckler oh boy did I suffer, felt like my pelvis was cracked 😀

I’m off out to ride it now , I am interested to know how it compares to the Orange I have just sold.

I bought some here 10 in a pack for a quid, + postage

http://www.sjscycles.co.uk/hope-copper-washer-%28suits-brass-insert%29-10-pack-prod25822/

I put clear on the rub areas why knacker up a pefectly good frame, cables and grime can cut deep into the alloy in only a few rides.
If you spend a grand or more it makes sense to protect it , the rest of the frame just gets left to the elements, and always a chainstay,lizard skin or the like,if anything to shut up the noise of the chain slowly grind its way through 😀

Bought mine of Merlin came in a plastic bag sealed, so must be OEM so no extra bits I will have another look and contact them, damn just bought the XTR to impatient 😀

Single ring 9 or 10 speed are the same pitch

Bought an XTR today comes with no pod , will probably sell te Xt780’s building the bike now and can’t fit my Hope Tech 4’s with the pod in place, and can’t wait 11 weeks 😯

we will all be biking on the XBox virtual bikes 😀

barrykelett do you have alink to the parts can’t seem to find it thansk

WHAT GEARS But but but gears , my Butcher arrived today started building it up with XT 10 speed hence the noob question , I have an XT770 10 speed shifter and that had the cover behind the pod,too cold to go back out brrrrrr,,,, always have trouble setting up 10 speed cable tensons are different than 9 speed, mmmmm

Argoscycles have one for their paint offerings

XT 780 says on paper work cover is an extra, I will have a look again,

Regards Spud

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My XT 10 speed Chain and Cassette have lasted approx 12 months 30-60 miles a week all weathers lubed before each ride and washed off after with fenicks or the like, then left to dry 😯 then lubed before I go out the rust on the chain soon blends in. 😀 its completely knackered now and in the bin, but always changed gear and never slipped.

Mine did that after about 6 months sent it back for repair but yours is new so maybe something different, sorry not much help.

16 if your 5′ 7″

I got some of the Mojo store came in 48 hours

SC Butcher 😀 couldn’t help myself