its lovely, don't blame u goldenwonder

what bike is that one in the last pic houns ?

oh yeah guy I was thinking of was hadge I think

An Orange? Me?! Never be seen dead with one
of those goppin' things. But yes, I do own a
Turner. It's ace.

I like the looks of the 5 its not the prettiest but I find the turners as ugly as sin , mass marketed gop them turners , ha ha .

guy who posts his merlin ti can't remember his name but thats lovely

brilliant ! enjoyed reading the update , hats of to you all and keep up the good work

cinnamon and rasin are the way forward, with a bit of butter

sweet , very similar to my .orange crush colour wise

intense 5.5 crack all the time I read it on the internerd, David taylorford strikes again

+1 bryn teg house can't fault it , stayed there everytime we go to afan

the best bet for the op is to not take any of your advice fukwit

David your a complete **** , and yes an orange 5 is a good bike , you got a problem with that ? obviously you have and that statement makes you look like even more of a twunt, get over yourself

get the intense lovely bike and can be ridden all day , mate of.mine has an intense and has had no problems apart from changing the bushings every 12 months. don't listen to that David bloke above he is a total internerd knob who thinks he knows it all

look to get the best frame and forks you can at this price , wheels you can allways upgrade them later . the crush is a great bike and the wheels on mine have been ok so far unlike the flexy wheels on the boardman…

I have a 5 , the model just before the bend In the top tube but now I'm wanting the latest one :) and recently I've acquired an orange crush :)

anything davidtayford writes , pure bs

davidtay wishes he brought an orange. simple

Chinese is good though, its just hard to find a good one , I've had some shocking ones of late.

its a tough decision but I would go Indian. just had mixed kebab meat and chips tho with extra chilli , lovely

lol

did the op mither the designer ? no I think u may find . I for one was interested In knowing the difference between the two and the op asked the forum, isn't that what stw is all about? or have I got the wrong forum ?

It's not really sarkey. It's more a dissapointment
that the work that designers put into things
aren't really picked up by people sometimes.

where's the violins…

he was asking a question your response was uncalled for. I for one have looked at your frames and considered buying one , but for me that just wouldn't happen now after reading this, you've come across as a total arse

just because its alu doesn't mean its not comfy

after that response op I would go for something else…

take her up the wrong un

what's the setback on the Ibeam posts ?

I found the bar width to be perfect but that's down to personal preference

most places have sold out though

just seen a stylo race seatposts 25mm offset on chain reaction which looks ideal anyone used one of these ?

glad I got the 2010 model , still nice tho , to much dollar though

confused as the Thomson looks like it would give more layback then say the richley in the pic above

go for it zomer .) haven't had time to take any pics yet I'm afraid

go for it zomer .) haven't had time to take any pics yet I'm afraid

so something like the richley post would give more layback than the Thomson ?

I need 140 mm because I'm so rad, 100mm is sooooo last year darlings x

;) pmsl :)

good luck finding one , I'm 6ft 1 " and I've got a 17 " its the right size for me but the top tubes a little short, changing the stem to a 70 mm and a seatpost with 20 mm setback solved this

Nah but long days in the hills aren't a problem I'm use to my.bikes being slack its just the way I like them

140 mm for me on my crush

I would be interested to know that aswell enfht

my bikes an orange crush 17 " I've got an 18 " five which is perfect for reach. the crush is the perfect size height wise ( I've got an inch and a half before the maximum insertion line ) but I feel like I'm going to fall off over the front sometimes, the stem is only 55 mm BTW

just got mine first ride today , agree the 17" id short think I may get a layback post. lots of teething problems with it tho , brake caliber was loose ! but think it will take me a bit of time to get use to riding a hardtail again … missed my 5 to be honest …