….harder next time!

Always by eye.

50:50 for a G&T……..hmmmmmm, there’s an idea !

code that’s so obvious it doesn’t need documentation apart from on a high level

So its undocumented as well as untested….
…..oh the horror, the HORROR ! 🙂

What about peer reviews?

– Its easier to review tests than code.

Buddy programming?

– One for the price of two !

Component level testing?

– ????

static {
statuts = “GoodNightJohnBoy”;
}

Incidentally, I’ve done 100% code coverage projects! Now that sucks!)

Still no guarantee of bug free code – shhhhh – but dont tell the PM 🙂

if the client demands I use, say, Hibernate, I’m not about to test it. If it goes wrong it’s his problem, not mine!

All the more reason to test YOUR boiler plate code.

Did they tell you which “web company” or do you think they were “at it” ?

I hope not, Im currently munching through a rather delicious wedge of Mrs Appleby’s Cheshire………yummy !

the project in question issued a dictat saying we had to have 90% unit test coverage

Not unusual – I believe there’s quite a few of the OS projects now demand 80-90% coverage.

I wasn’t referring to any of your posts GrahamS

Actual code is more important than unit tests

…. depends on the quality of the code 😉

I only chipped in to point out the difference between Test Driven Development and writing Unit Tests.

Writing lots of unit tests, or thinking how your code can be tested before writing it is not TDD.

Morlock

Depends if you’ve got the time and budget for it…

So lots of tests aren’t bad, but they’re the first things to get cut when the pressure’s on ?

means lots of unit tests

Yes it will mean there will be a LOT of tests, but thats no bad thing is it ?

TDD != Unit Testing;

……opens a cold beer and sits back in a comfy chair.

Nice, hope you got lots of pondering and reflecting time in there too.

Wife had it, can be very painful. I think she ended up getting steroid injections, Get it checked.

DaRC_L —At what point does any of that that give an overview/introduction to the core libraries/packages as the OP asked??

I didn’t like the style of the Head First series, kinda “java for dummies”/comic/patronising style, but thats personal preference.

I used sun’s Core Java series and would recommend them if they’re still doing them. Excellent overview of the core libraries and examples that are easy to learn from and make good references for experienced developers.

weather2 glentress

The ones that fit your feet best!
I’ve always gone for Scarpas good fit and take years of abuse.

Thought the nevegals were a pretty solid all rounder.

When Im not smacked up mine ramble on warning me of “The Thousand Year Storm” or something

Brilliant……love the fact it’s a downhill yet half the riders still have bar ends on.

Harsh comments on the skill of the riders. Yeah some were mince, but there were some mentalists in there hammering it with zero travel and the stopping power of a cross channel ferry. I’m sure they would piss all over a lot of us on here with modern day kit.

“Look out Suzy goose” is the current favourite.

Fine on my mac

Why not “shitfaced” for a nine ?

It’s that extra special close male bonding you only get with snowboarders when they have to double up on the T Bars.

I think the word brouhaha should be used more.

12 year old Highland Park is £21 in Asda just now.

£19.99 from your local David Sand’s store (thats not an offer always been that price)….shhh dont tell anyone 😉

I disagree with Toons andpgrading the headset to hope is worthwhile, then again it’s probably a lot muckier and grittier up here. Dont get a factory upgrade though as your LBS will sell you one and fit it for £50, leaving you with a spare or one to flog on eBay.

Edinburgh Council £4 million housing repair scam

…see what you’ve gone and started !

Show us the links ?

People spending net work weeks posting on STW. Costing the country millions!
Ban it I say !

Some good ones…..especially “Cymswmlog Smelting Chimney and the Pole Star” A+

I would rather watch Derek Jarman’s “Blue” – twice !

is it even worth getting bikes insured

Depends if you can buy another one if it got nicked.

I use E&L insurance, as my house insurance would only cover up to £1K. I didn’t bother shopping around that much so you could probably find cheaper. Think I payed about £10 a month for £2.2 K of cover.

Richard Gere would think twice about tackling that beast.