yea spend 3 years off youre head and get a 2:1… that is what i did..

i get stoned and ride my bike 🙂

a the joys of the middle classes,

its not the frame, all bikes bend,

umm, its sunny..im of to ride it…also some times if its super windy its better to ride it the other way…

So you think it’s ok to write some of the stuff you’ve been writing these last few weeks – some of it pretty hateful, in the face of a lot of reasoned argument showing you just how wrong you were – you realise that written word is pretty much there forever don’t you? And that STW as the owners and publishers of this site are responsible for the bilious ranting of some of the contributors? What makes it ok to be so insulting on an internet forum but not in person?

you dont get trolling do you…

Given your recent performances, I sometimes hope it really isn’t RealLife™ but rulez iz rulez – the Mods attach slightly more weight to your words than you think.

well thats up to them isnt it..i was just saying i dont take any thing on hear seriously, or write with any serious intent. i mean if you read some thing and then get mad dose it not ever occur to people that it might have been written for that exact purpose, , why do people get so upset about shit on this forum…???

lol can i have ur name and address pleas….

what worries me is that people take this forum so super seriously, for **** sake i dont think people even mean half of what they write…its just the net its not real life, i wouldnt hold anything against any one on hear if i were to meet them in real life….

he has a fag

he smokes, thought that wasnt PC these days…

TJ my life is far more important than going through crap on this forum, evidently yours isn’t so I’ll let you go through everyone of his posts and provide evidence to prove me wrong

when ever i come t this forum TJ is always hear why, i bet he dont even own a bike,

get rid of the dog, it could attack youre child dont risk it!

given point 1 and the robust nature of the evidence required and the likely years of appeals do you think people would slip through?

the evidence would have to be so strong any one would be able to see the truth, i mean body’s under you house and a tape of you doing it and body parts in the freezer

Thankfully reading the pro arguments on here have convinced me that they are so badly put together and only held by extremists that they have no chance of ever getting the death penalty back.

lets hope we dont have a vote about it then!
sun paper vote = 79.99% want it back

Government survey = 58% but up to 76% for child murder

kimbers – Member
that’s not a treason to be a criminal, lots of very rich people started of with nowt, they need a quality eduction provided by the state. Class dosent effect youre IQ.
or your ability to spell?

exactly if i can make it any one can

sooner or later the bell tolls for us all…

1) how do you define this new category of guilt you want that allows you to execute?

you would have to produce irrefutable evidence, for example the 13 minute tape of the Mira hyndley killing a small child.. maybe a min of three bits of evidence of equal quality

2) how do you differentiate between different degrees of child killing to decide who gets a death sentence?

if it was sexual in nature!

3) do you accept that miscarriages will happen and thus would you be content for your son to be executed for a crime he id not commit?

i aim would be to crate a system that meant that could not happen, i dont think we should have a death penalty carried out untill that time. much investment must be made in this first.

Wasn’t Ian Huntly mentally ill?

no his wasnt in a way that would excuse him for what he did,

i lived in north london for a while and worked with kids from haringey and tottenham, some of them were from nice middle class families some from not so nice situations all of them were great kids,
only as they got older they became more dissafected, as said before lack of good role models and desperately underfinded an innefectual social services (baby p was just down the road too) mean that the kids from the crappier parts realise that they wont be going to uni, they wont be going on holiday this year, they wont be driving a nice audi when they turn 17, tehy wont be getting an ipad for xmas etc etc

that’s not a treason to be a criminal, lots of very rich people started of with nowt, they need a quality eduction provided by the state. Class dosent effect youre IQ.

I think it makes perfect sense to make the moral judgement that killing people is wrong and then punish people who kill people by killing them

did i ever make that statement?some times its ok to kill!

HeathenWoods – Member
Maybe they want to celebrate the positive aspect of his life, and what he meant to them. He wasn’t born a drug dealer…
Oh you silly, silly naive relativist; sadly I’ve known, lived with, and watched junkies die their sordid, sad lives. Dealers are parasitic scum living off their own communities and should not be mourned for a minute. “Positive aspect of his life.” **** that, I can only imagine you’re still grooving to your Gary Glitter discs and bemoaning the cruelty of all those nasty judgemental types.

now that hit several nails on the head very hard all at once!

So – are you going to answer any of the questions I have put to you?

which ones??? i think i have!

mooman – Member
How can you have a serious discussion – when you have complete idiots come out with moronic posts such as this …

TandemJeremy – Member
Right – define that then.
How about people who kill kids by hitting them with their cars?
How about people that loose their temper and shake a kid and kill it?
How about the mother who has the baby in her bed and accidentaly rolls onto it and smothers it?
How about the parent with mental health difficulties who kills a child in despair?
i think this guy did it for me… no on all counts!

TandemJeremy

i know no one ever wanted to sleep with you so children were never a issue. but for some of us the idea that people that hurt them can ever walk free again is disgusting!

If your perp is mentally ill or insane, would you pull the trigger?

well no that would be stupid..

TandemJeremy – Member
a nation wide vote.. we would have to vote to get some one executed!

Hello – earth to ilovemygears – is there anyone there?

calm down old man.. not every one thinks like you im sorry if that upsets you!!

TandemJeremy – Member
so ilovemygears – please define how you make sure these people get executed and people like Stefan Kiszko and Stephen downing do not?

a nation wide vote.. we would have to vote to get some one executed! we would have to put a lot of money in to new ways of securing a safe conviction, maybe some sort brain scanning device..

Like when an innocent person gets executed?

well as it would be such a rare event i don’t thin it would be a problem if we only execute the worst of the worst then it will be ok, you know people that kill and rape children, like the Soham killer Ian Huntley

innocent victims get killed every day, no one gives a **** about that, just the criminals and his rights..

ilovemy gears – answer the questions!

Are you now accepting that innocent people would be killed? are you prepared to accept an innocent member of your family being executed by mistake?
maybe that could happen you never know..yes im prepared to take that risk to keep filth of the streets!

TandemJeremy – Member
ton – its down to the level in the 70s

There is no evidence or even any good reason to think the death sentence deters murder.

Most murder is done in temper, most is done by people who know the victim. Its not a rational decision that can be deterred.

yes but they cant do it again once there dead, people need to take responsibility for there own actions at all times! Im not talking about that sort of crime any way. im talking about people that plan then go rape and kill children etc!

ok maybe very occasionally mistakes will be made, but we can learn from them and not make them again in the future. Pales tell me though how you could ever compare this to Fred west who spent hour after hour describing how he killed,

Generally speaking our society is very safe indeed. Some people need to stop reading tabloid fear-mongering.

if you live in a nice middle class bit that is!

Answer the questions!

i have! that was 30 odd years ago, useing modern tecnoligy he would never have been convicted!

ton – Member
MSP, like any decent bloke, i want a sociaty where my kids/gandkids are safe, where my wife is safe.
but we do not have one do we.
and since the death penaly/capital punishment was abolished murder rates have risen.

go figure!

it seems simple to me

that was 30 od years ago, useing modern tecnoligy he would never have been convicted!

Three_Fish – Member
yes, yes i would!
I wasn’t talking to you, troll.

me? im not a troll…

Three_Fish – Member
and answer me honestly……..would you want him to die.
Answer me honestly: would you do it yourself?

yes, yes i would!

grum – Member
murderess that involves sexual violence should receive death!
And you want to watch right? Maybe see some sexual violence inflicted on them too? Perhaps you could tape it and watch it over and over again.

nope it wolnt be sexual, just very bloody!

So no incentive to behave inside then?

nope so what they wouldn’t be getting out any way.