I couldnt get a pair of wheels in a box MyHermes would carry, one wheel may sneak in the limit.

In the end I used Parcelforce £13 insured.

Go for it, You can kiss yer xtr goodbye.

You’ll be fine as long as you dont look like the usual storm trooper mtb type in which case you may get arrested by the douche police.

It’ll be road for me.

Both are capable of emptying the tank but on the road its only limited by my fitness and occasionally the fatties in cars getting in the way.

On the mtb the technical nature means theres times when I’m forced to ease up, also if its a group ride mtb seems to more sprint stop chat than road which is still social but you can talk whilst riding.

Would love to see some serious study on the psychology of sharing the road(or not).

I used to react on commutes, don’t now probably partly due to age(after a while theres no surprises) , partly due to more road riding at a proper pace when not commuting.

There are about six threads which just repeat as its previous effort drops of the top few pages, this is one.

Premiums reflect the costs of claims plus a bit of trading profit if the co’s lucky , distributed proportionate to a persons(based on segment history) likelihood to cost the fund money.

Young drivers have a habit of claiming so get the highest premiums, (would you like to cover the cost of their potential third party claims?).

Female young drivers are likely to pay more now because insurers cant charge more for males so have to split those costs equally.

Best bet for young drivers is one of the telematic schemes which give the driver a chance to prove their driving characteristics are safer than their peer group.

New schemes are coming online all the time.

Other than that I wholeheartedly agree with the comment above, if anyone is capable of getting about under their own steam it should be our young people.

Get them a bike.

On solo rides I max it out maybe for a hour or so but in 20 minute intervals , don’t know the rate but to the point I couldn’t do much else , talk etc. At the moment combined with the weight loss this means I rarely get uncomfortable on group rides.

As always I suspect there’s loads of variables that effect your chances of having a incident, some are easy to see, some nigh on impossible.

Get some good insurance and don’t worry about pegging it that’s easy, livings the tricky bit.

weed

Best place in the uk is where I live, not telling you lot though,carry on in your grim northern conurbations hahahahaha!

Inboard brakes could have swung it for next years btw.

The last sentence of the post above is it.

We have filled the gap left by low paid jobs with benefits that remove the need to work at all. I know it’s a cliche but there must be some jobs out there if half of Eastern Europe thinks its worth getting on their bikes to come here.

Perhaps we should replicate whatever social support they have.

Rarely does formal education finish the job, most people develop skills whilst in work that help the throughout their career. So some of people in the program will have loads to offer, it’ll just ever be seen.

Recommendation of a kind..

I bought some alloy 44cm drops, very nicely made, super stiff, light and 11quid, bargain.

Trying to get a bike to do too much has never really worked out for me. Now I like them to be as focused as possible, so if I want a racer buy a racer, if you want to commuter buy a commuter etc.

Regards head tubes and the sportive thing, I bet 80% of the range in bar height achievable on a sportive design is achievable on a tradional head tube bike.

Most probably have close to 100mm between the bar slammed and stem angled down and at its highest setting with the stem angled up.

I think you should get a bike that is a great colour, a design that appeals to the eye and is focused on its main purpose.

That way you will want to ride it.

Ludicrous to think this began with Tony’s crusade, sure didnt help but the muslims, christians and jews have been slaughtering each other since the day some goon dream’t up their tosh.

Back to the here and now I quite like Boris’s summary.

Mr Johnson also said that politicians had to “make a hard and sharp distinction between that religion – and the virus of ‘Islamism’.”
He said: “This is a sinister political agenda that promotes a sense of grievance and victimhood among a minority of Muslims.
“The Islamists want universal Sharia law, and other mumbo jumbo. Above all, they want power over others: and so they prey on young men who feel in some way rejected by society, and they fill those young men with a horrible and deluded sense of self-importance.
“They tell these people that they are not alone in suffering injustice; that they belong to a much wider group of victims – the Muslims – and that the only way to avenge these injustices is jihad.
“These Islamist evangelists have no allegiance to the western society they live in and whose benefits systems they abuse: far from it – their avowed intent is to create a sexist and homophobic Muslim caliphate.”
Mr Johnson continued: “We must not give the killers the thing they crave above all – the prize of dividing us. They say they want a “war”, or, as others have put it, a “clash of civilisations”. That idea is bunk, and we can show it.
“To prevent any such temptation, we must be clear in our heads that there is no sense whatever in blaming Islam, a religion that gives consolation and enrichment to the lives of hundreds of millions of peaceful people.”

There is an irony in you accusing me of repeating someone else’s view, then copy pasting some rambling text.

So to be clear I don’t like Islam, I don’t much like any of the other lot either. They incite the weak minded to violence and oppression and just like you they get really pissed off with people who disagree with them.

If you don’t like that , tough.

I can understand those who say the reaction is a symptom of our action, their wrong. Were the uk and us and all the other countries to have a sustained period of turning the other cheek Muslims such as this chap would continue to preach their vile hate.

There motive is not revenge for harm done to them, but to enforce the medieval rules of one of these clap trap books.

Mine says 6nm, it was slipping new post in new frame, used the finish line stuff and bingo problem solved.

To mirror whats been said above I recently lost a kilo from the bike by spending £400 on wheels, tyres and a seatpost.

At the same time I lost ~8kg from the rider by spending less money on chips.

Mrs Toast-

Because the Islamic religion is the common denominator in a couple of decades worth of terrorist attacks. With the terrorists quoting their religion as the reason.

Why not say “not in the name of this religion, it’s peaceful and violence is wrong” ?

So whilst its individuals that are carrying out these acts, they seem to be the easily influenced disaffected types often preyed on by shit stirring groups with religious or political ideology.

Firstly if I’m alive it’s not an apocalypse is it?

That aside, the stupidification of humanity is creeping rather than overnight, actual zombies will appear in fazes. Firstly we may be able to suppress them with tribal games, cheap alcohol and flickering screens. When this fails it’ll be back to medieval tactics of walled towns and moated castles.

Won’t work though eventually we will mostly be wiped out with just a few survivors whereupon natural selection will reverse the zombie complex until the next outbreak.

I’m a 9.5 uk shoe, 44 wide if I can get em and seem to be a 45 inroad shoes.

Loads of brands out there and all the usual incremental price points. So far I like shimano and giro want to try some lake though as there my choice in mtb shoe.

I do wish some top dog from this religion, not the council but actual senior clerics (pope esq, forgive my ignorance) would come out and condem violence in all form, say it was un Islamic etc and the perps would be going to hell.

You know where do all these idiots get the idea doing this shit is the answer.

Are you looking to insure it at home or away?
In the house,flat it usually covered under sum insured but check there may be exclusions.
Any terms for bikes such asoutbuildings secured in a certain way.
Do you need/ want it to cover non secured areas, gardens etc.

I tried on some new Lycra today and found myself strangely attracted to myself. Not sure what that means.

Not exactly the typical image of a Muslim or for that matter recent immigrants. The guy apologises for women seeing his actions but says women in his own land have to see such acts. All in a south london accent.

One mixed up boy, I can’t help wondering if it will turn out there’s someone been whispering in his ear . S,pose its all part of the journey but not easy for a lot of people to accept.

I quite like the French approach to religion and the fruicakes that it attracts.

It’s it just about head tube length?

Trouble is though a high head tube may feel good on a test ride but when you want to get out of a north easterly it’s not such a good idea.

Can’t keep a good man down, we’ll done sir. Now get that bike of the turbo.

Not read any of this thread but bet its the second most boring of the year.

Stw classic.

S,pose forks needs servicing once every year or two and that maybe best left to a shop but I don’t get the get a lbs to everything thing. What happens when you need to fix something when your out? And bikes in general don’t need servicing they need ongoing fettling.

Actually it was driving without due care and attention, that’s with four witnesses saying she drove at him as if on purpose.

Had the same last year, ” punishment pass ” for riding two abreast. Open road female driver swerved into my mate hitting his arm then sped away.

Took ten months for any action, which amounted to careless driving 3 pts and £25 quid fine. If I couldn’t sort it out myself not sure I would bother again.

I had to overtake mrs stapelton tonight, my god it was drama, the old girls getting faster..

This thread says why we all love our kids and why we aren’t all talented artist in one easy read.

Also In the market for new roadie lid.

Searching for a design that doesn’t have sponge padding and as such wont soak up the sweat and turn cold. Anyone know of a design that uses gel or something non absorbent?

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not sure whats beens said before or after but this..

Do believe (watching the repeat) Mark Cavendish has just been handed and drank an Orange Fanta as post Giro 6 recovery.

Bored already can’t you all just go away.

You have been done, my bargain bucket scandal with kiddies wheels is much lighter, not sure how much just much.