Ah right. Got it. I understand that now.

Mags would give a different review if they had to service them every couple of long rides or pay a hundreds to get the stanchions replaced every six months.

MBUK etc do have longterm bike tests. There dont seem to be any issues arising though?

This is going to be THE WORLD’S BIGGEST ANTICLIMAX isn’t it?

You’ve met mrshora then?

I reckon its a funding/partial sellout or merger with a bigger company giving brant more freedom to run the company and design frames (whilst they run the infrastructure-side)

Mark I never said you worked that way. I just said I find it wierd when a mag has say a big fullpage ad from say Specialized and a favourable review all in the same issue.
I apologise to you (please remember I did also add that I was potentially talking conjecture and pure pie in the sky cynicism) ;)

Forgive me?

binners I was looking for something post-party that was ‘interesting’ to suggest. Didnt leave the house in the end.

I love the smell of Flowerbomb…and this is coming from someone who doesnt like perfume/aftershave

Im not the only one who was thinking of our trouser-packets then!

Ps. Im not insinuating everyone do this Mark. I know at STW you try to keep the advertising/content mix in the mag down for a start.. Just saying it must go on in the industry. :-)

Mark, are the big magazines owned by international companies? Do they have teams of sales agents taking calls from advertisers, canvassing potential advertisers with rate cards at hand etc etc etc? Surely, its fair to assume that the Financial-types lean on certain articles to lessen a review etc?

I have seen reviews of kit with a fullpage ad from the same manufacturer in the same mag before. Surely coincidence or was a series of calls made saying the article on the latest kit will be favourable as you are running an ad etc???

Call me cynical but Im sure it does go on. If a certain bike/kit manufacturer doesnt advertise with a certain mag surely open to a more critical review? Sorry if its conjecture and pure pie in the sky cynicism from an industry outsider.

Where is the Marin info?

My Threshers Ball was held in Portsmouth at the Triangle(?). It was a very very interesting night….

Enough already. Brant, you’ll have to over-elaborate and make something up now!

Comical Ali talks far less cr@p than Hora

Well hes dead for a start?

Wednesday at 9pm isnt it?

I must admit I like the ones where they know its a challenge from the start, struggle but pull off a successful project.

and if they have worn through she is happy to try and get them fixed under warranty as unfit for purpose.

Good point.

Tell us dammit or my on one gets it :| (holds cutlery fork against paintwork)

mostlyharmless bejeesus. Just read this post. Thank **** all is ok. :D

Ok guys. Here it is. I’ve bought out On-One. So be prepared to be royally mucked around ;)

JOKE

I feel for anyone with children facing upto the dilemma of being shafted for the high cost of holidays in half term etc. TBH though 3weeks is a long holiday. If it was in somewhere like Peru, Bhutan, Beijing etc the school might be more inclined to say ‘ok’ as its an educational experience in part.

If we looked at it from a schools perspective- how many teachers etc have to combat this sort of thing all the time from different parents?

All hobbies are expensive. I can see alot of people riding less and less in the months to come due to bills, prices, job losses, kit prices rises. Kids will take up more money and riding will fall bythe wayside. Sad really.

HoratioHufnagel I remember the snowbound winter when I had to walk from Ocford circus upto West Hampstead due to no tube and buses all stuck! Actually enjoyed it as there were loads in the same boat and everyone helping each other/in good spirits.

I’d rather go to school than spend a 3rd week in Florida.

I’d rather not spend even a week in Florida.

HondaF1 buyout? Cars to be rebranded ‘wasonahondaone’

Apperently there are a group of singlespeeders holding a candle vigil outside Brants hut now waiting for the chosen one to come out and give a speech..

I had the Fox Vanilla R’s when they first came to the UK- when was it? 2002? I ran them for 15months with no issues at all before selling them on- didnt service them once.

The service schedules have really put me off hence I went and bought a new pair of 05 Pikes instead. True they will never be as good as the latest Fox but at least I wont be raped for £80 a time to service etc. Ridiculous.

I’ve been doing lazy donuts in our works carpark this morning :twisted:

As S&J says. Quality, seriously Brant?

Firefox works Safari doesnt..wierd!

DITTO google hint???

Rigid? Frigid!!

Freemincing, thats me! :)

Glen Carlos Pinot Noir for me :)

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Thats them!!!!! arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

A tinkerer…me like :D

SFB in rare genuis of the day shocker! :lol:

PP elastic bands holding on the brakes then?

4 Americans, two furry-faced blokes and two pudgy lasses? Released a couple of years ago. I bough the album, 7 tracks in I opened and threw the CD out of the window. I think they had a few hits here?

Just a thought………Customer hadnt followed maintenance instructions as per manufacturers guildelines hence customers fault…etc..

a longshot, could this be linked to the Pinder case? Not directly but a thinking/a way of putting future inspection/onus on the mechanical working onto the user/customer? Therefore easy to defend against neglicence?

Make your kit last longer? It’ll hurt the Importers if everyone did this?

Fox advertise their forks in bike magazines, a fair bit as well. Would you write negative reviews on Fox forks when they give you current and future money? Great to be impartial but not at the expense of your journo-job.