How much was 23k in 1980? Factor in the interest on repayments etc and I bet intotal/like for like its similar to 160k. Im not arguing against ownership. There are many factors pro-ownership. The only pro for renting has to be the current crisis/economic climate. Otherwise its pro-buy all the way.

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Hora, the internal poly in your helmet will have compressed (assuming you hit thew floor reasonably hard). If you were to fall off and bash the same place on your helmet there’d be no helmet compresion so it would hurt. Rest of helmet will be OK though.

It’ll be fine then. I think I’ll use one of my less fancy helmets for commuting from now on though.

Sat 8am there was a blizzard on Arthurs Seat (Edinburgh), turned round walked into town and it was sun shining and no snow! Sunday there was a blizzard blowing on the A701 8)

Crah protection is very good- it used to be £30 now its £50 for a Atmos dammit!!

frenchjuan, I used to commute without a helmet upto a year ago and this morning I even considered riding in just a woolly hat. ****. My head was protected…..just for you x

Thinking about it- no signs of damage but one more knock and it will fail so then I’ll know to bin. Its hardly going to disintegrate BEFORE I hit the ground is it?!

It’ll be thawed for the journey home I hope!

Decathlon do proper down jackets for £50 (snowboarding etc)

The way John Torode eats is disgusting, it looks like his lower jaw dislocates from the skull each mouthfull :lol:

Hes eyes get me. He looks like Drugzilla, the cokemonster

Pike post this on http://www.pistonheads.com forum

Hora,are you one of those drivers that hates to be overtaken?

No. I do question why someone would drive a heavy high vehicle with ancient rear suspension at over 90mph next to me though!!! :lol:

The Teutonic Knights Templar. They also control who gives birth, to whom and take signals/directions from Martians who in turn are directed by Ron Hubbard and John Travolta.

falkirk mark no S&J isnt- hes a good lad not an insensitive EDIT.

I really do question this obsession with home ownership.

Paying twice the value of the house just to say you own it before you die and leave almost half the value back to the state? Agree. In Germany they think we are mad for our focused-obsession with ownership.

DJ you were well within your rights to lose your rag. How many times have they left people in that situation before and the father has quietly fumed and let it go?
On my last visit to the royal Free in Hampstead I watched someone repaint a wall in a corridor- painting over dirt/what looked like food. Nice quick way to clean up hey?

CHOMP…..but lets stop there! ;)

S&J agree. Add to this the French Prime minister says Brown has ruined Britain. Inpart a political comment, but also true. This week theres a furore about Clarkson calling brown a one-eyed Scottish Idiot. Only a couple of disability charities complain that the disability comment classes disabled people as idiots. No one complains why the Scottish or idiot-reference are necessary.

guitarhero. Re-read my post before deciding whether it applies to you. Racing_Ralph ditto. No offence guys but at anypoint before my post did you say you lived in the sticks? Same question to you guitarhero.

Thats the problem with STW, everyone seems to think theres a personal attack on them. I’m not a psychic am I? So unless you post the info how do I know?
Anyone who lives in the middle of city and wants a style/choice to drive purely to the shops, then to Llandegla then to a shopping centre cinema then yes my point applies to the size of their cock.

I havent really thought about this when I posted the thread but arent we all ‘renting’ until we pay off all the debt on a property? Therefore he was smashing up someone elses property. People complain about banks but how about irresponsible borrowing? Banks arent responsible for how people live their lives, nano-manage. Have banks ever held quartley appraisals of their borrowers like employers do? Give the banks a break.. My old landlord smashed up his house back in 1991 when he went bankrupt on a business deal in tenerife. He **** up and they had to try and rescue their ‘risk’ in the idiot.

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Stiff brush? No **** way. What do you class as a stiff brush? Visit Halfords and chose one of the many dirt lifting/foaming sprays. The pink carpet (Vanish stain remover) foam-spray should work (test first). After all, carpet is very similar. Nutters, stiff brush- catch a thread or wear one down? Dont forget that grit/fine sticks etc may still be present and agitate the threads of fabric. Foam, lift, wipe and repeat.

I reckon he was facing iminent-repo and cameback in from a coke-bender. Matey reckons it was someone two-timed. This is Edinburgh in case the idiot also posts on here? Well you never know!!!

Unless you live in the sticks why would you buy one of these vehicles? A compromise on every other front. Even for builders. Urban-types who buy them have a small-willy-syndrome? A Van or a big estate will tick more boxes. I’ve seen people driving L200 at silly speeds in the fast lane. Idiots.

Odd my 04 reg Mondeo doesn’t need to be told to switch it on. Switch the ignition on, it beeps for “chuffing cold out” (ie 4C or below, as I live in the South) and then it switches on both front and rear heated screens for me.

It then went on to blow its injectors, DMF, other engine electronics etc and the nice Mr Ford always welcomed me to the dealership with a big fat smile? :roll: :lol:

Lukewarm tapwater, wipers on. Bobs your uncle. NO need for hot water if you use your wipers FFS.

As soon as the word ‘Paypal’ was mentioned I switched off. I wont go near anything with Paypal as payment. Once bitten by their Customer service forever shy. I was once bitten by Dave Hinde’s customer service. Same applies.

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Just curious- 5hrs later it must have become warped/degenerated further?

Thread hijack, swift your website isnt loading?

Running SS pads front and back in my Saints- no problem. If there was, you know me I’d bleat like you lot none stop about it :lol: 8)

wwawas, dammit that cat will learn to permanently salute Hitler now I have fixed rods and bolts into its arm :twisted:

its almost Dr Strangelove!!!!!!!!!!

Ps.WCA and PP, your both twins seperated at birth, anglosaxon males :roll:

Richyb I hear you however there would be other benefits, quicker stock-turn, you wouldnt have as many lost-sales. How many punters wanted a new frame only to be told it was on a container/out of stock or simply checked the website and decided to order their second-choice instead from another manufacturer? Making up the lost sales would also help on costs etc. Are there any EU startup funds for new manufacturing/grants etc available?

We all think of cycling as a hobby. What we forget is to manufacturers its a business and businesses exist for profit at the end of the day.
People go on about ‘supporting your local bike shop’. Which at the best of times I find abit rich. I have a preferred place where I buy my car tyres and a preferred place for mechanical work. They are preferred as they offer a competitive price and service. Not just price and a good service.
As the economy gets tighter and tighter I do believe theres an opportunity/nay opening for bike makers to become homegrown and offer on price and quality. It is possible to offer both…
May one step forward please. My wallet is ready.

Can I just say, I would?

TBH if I was going to spend c1.6k on a new frame I’d chose either a Santa Cruz or Intense VP. I wouldnt buy a 1.6k single pivot frame. The Heckler would tick that box very nicely.

Is that Peter Poddy?

Just googled the UFO…11,4 lbs FACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If Carol was Asian or other non-white, would there be any furore if she had privately said ‘gollywog’? What gets my goat is the proliferation of derogative words in rap songs etc where the singers arent prosecuted either here or in the US. That disgusts me.

Hes worried about losing his job in the future/aware hes 62 and lives for work. Hes becoming defensive and sees you as the threat (part of a perceived threat).

Ps. If it is the above, just understand it (we will be in the same situation possibly one day) and work round it. Dont let him bully you though, just ask for a word in private if he continues and to be honest you shouldnt pre-judge him on his personal life.

A friend of mine works for an Accountancy firm who recently decided to shed loads of staff in the cruelist possible way. A colleague of his had been with the company for over 30yrs. Lived and breathed his job in almost a Japanese way (my friends words) …….and the company sacked him- found a way of getting out of paying a large redundancy package.

MrNutt, agree but it all comes down to the manufacturers confidence in a product and customer backup. Say you own 2-3 bikes (I know some of you due you decadent-lot) then you may only ride a particular frame say 25 weekends (say 40times) out of the year in total?

Much better than most of my ex girlfriends who coould barely manage 12 inches!

Post of the day.

Hardtail- £400