Nice looking bike ! I just entered the waiting phase on my side !
How does it ride compared to the solaris ? On flat xc and technical if you were able to try it all
have fun !

Now I’m thinking more and more about either the sirius s6 or the rc429, the 429 sounds great although maybe stack is a bit higher than what I’m looking for, but their sagged 120mm fork is stated as 514mm, mines are around 490mm sagged (both formula 35 and reba), which would make it like 67.5° head angle, quite more conservative, and much steeper on the seat tube as well as lower on the bb…

On the other way the s6 has sliding dropouts, 65° with my forks, so geo is as stated, much lower stack, might be a bit too much long low slack for traveling abroad but a -1° / -1,5° angle set may transform it into a perfect bike for that too.

I think i’ll settle on this one when i’ll have more news about the steel version availability

Pipedream Sirius riders, how does it do on long flat parts ?

Damn i promise that with whatever bike i end with I’ll make a super detailed review to give back ! (And if someone’s interested in opening a rental trial bike company send me a message, im totally up for it 😉 )

Not the best year weatherwise this year, ariege is super steep and wet, jungle like, central is absolutely beautiful with neouvielle and such, west is more accessible with splendid culture and food but often rainy, east is more populated and but sunnier and drier, southern Pyrénées on the spanish side are absolutely splendid and much much drier, you can find a few very interesting  deserts not too far southern too.

If the weather is aweful, i’d say stay down and visit town and hilly countries, Mediterranean sea side with beautiful wild swamps, big town like toulouse and the mid sized cities following the Pyrénées : carcassonne, pau tarbes, bayonne. and montpellier, and montpellier backcountry (haut languedoc and grands causses, cevennes but beware the climate there also) is definitely worth it too

To say it simply, Pyrénées stop clouds coming from north west which will then burst on the north side, stay away from that high altitude line and south west wet vector and weather should be much nicer.

I can’t advise small places as i moved in the alps and it’s been way too long but it’s a place with plenty of small medieval villages full of charm, just avoid the big flat empty agricultural plains above  below toulouse (strongly advise you to visit that city, best town i lived in but it’s been more than 15years now…)

Enjoy !

Nice thanks ! Thats helpful !

Looking forward for real ligmfe angles if possible but if not don’t worry of course !

So you’d say something rather supple and forgiving when going down ?

Hows it doing for xc, flat parts and super techy almost trial stuff if you had the opportinity to meet that kind of terrain ?

And last question before i sound like asking way too much,  what would be the overall feeling of it ? Something like nimble agile and supple yet able to tackle ? Heavy but precise and good terrain feedback ?

Problem when i have choice for good stuff but no ways to try them out is that infos just get me more hesitant.

I’m gonna open a steel bike for trial rent company

@andos I’d love to know more ! Do you think you’d be able to detail it a bit more precisely? about the built, ride feel, abilities, terrain and such ? I know it’s part of personal part of mystery part of the bike itself that can’t always be explained, but I’m inches away from clicking on that one or the s6 when it’ll be available.

Also are you able to measure the angles of the seat tube and head tube you have sagged as well as the crown to axle of the fork by any chance ? That one is just for curiosity but their stated geo is what appealed me at first as it was basically the geo i had made up mixing stuff from interesting bikes i had in mind(440 rear was the exact middle lenght of the sliding droupouts i was thinking of), so im wandering how close the bike is from the official geo chart, but if it could work out awesome and feel awesome too that’d be really helpful could probably be decisive if i can have the right size soon.

Bikes are so awesome and diverse nowdays…

Cotic does makes awesome bikes and I’m super happy with my flaremax too but the more i look at the sirius s6 the more it looks interesting and appealing to me.

If i was living full time in mountainous place i would have no hesitation on this one but I’m a bit afraid that the s6 may be disappointing and sluggish on the flat, i do plan a few big trips abroad with the bike and long flat sections are inevitable..

New solaris with sliding droupout would be absolutely awesome too.

One day I’ll make the perfect bike

Yeah don’t worry for me i do know where to find most of what i need, and now i have a big city and an industrial zone near me so plenty of choice, and brico depot is stil very good indeed, and often cheaper also. i was only talking about leroy or casto which are sometimes the only option in a very large perimeter depending on where you live

I dont know, i never visited one, but i’m super happy i live in a country that doesnt have B&Q as standard hardwear store then 😉

Have fun with your projects !

[chestrockwell]

Never had problem with downtube underside routing even after years of sharp rocks flying around,  although i used a thin hdpe long plate zip tied over them for a while but changed the hoses and never bothered to put it back on, i did ripped off a few zip ties going full speed over dead branches facing forward once though but no harm was done other than that. A little bare metal is visible on my hope standard brake hose though,  but it still has many years of life left

I do love it to avoid cable rub with mybframe bags though.

chestrockwell thanks, that’s a very reasonable comment and probably the wisest advice, I’ll work on that 🙂

Thanks, that’s totally it, riding is indeed what can make the whole difference.

As for the stanton the review are quite mixed between absolutely excellent and not so good, the geo, frame look and all makes it look like a “normal” bike to me, mounts are more than welcome too and this one lacks almost all of them.

Sour indeed makes nice bikes as well as sklar, but i usually don’t like super short chainstay with slack head angle, it’s super agile and nimble on tights corner but usually make them poor climbers in technical which is what i love, and catapult rears over big rocks and roots at full speed, not so stable. Although i may be totally wrong but that’s the feeling i got from my previous experiences with friends bikes

I also hate the look of tapered head tube, i like how you can do everything you want with a 44mm one but well who cares

Man, I’m not going to get you the catalog, but way less paint diluters and remover, try findind amonia, essence F or E or even white spirit is getting hard at casto or leroy merlin, i do love ecological stuff but it doesn’t work on everything. pry bars have become springy, welding and drill bits, spans wrench, adapters, special screws not so frequent and all have slowly reduced in choice and quality, as well as spare parts.

As i said, no worries for the latest stuff in building or roof solutions, because every one is doing it, but for tools and hardwear it lost a bit.

Don’t feel attacked by the way i said some people pay to do it, i wasnt speaking about you at all, just that you see plenty of small construction company shopping there so they better have what’s needed for that, just don’t go too much out of the actual trend or you wont find it.

End of the subject for me, have fun it’s all that matters

Sorry but i don’t feel that review nor the video ones to be particularly useful and detailed

Also putting drop bar on non optimised hardtails has been done with success by plenty of people on bikepacking.com for exemple, and becoming easier with the quantity of various sized components.

Agreed that the price is an important part, but if i find the new solaris to be the absolute perfect bike i can pay a bit more for it if it means been super happy for many many years.

Mason raw looks nice too but definitely out of my price range.

I hope the new solaris gained a bit of nimbleness and springy agile playful vibe with the shaved weight which could defintely make it the top contender

But super tight turning ability is also important at the moment

The sirius has a shorter wheelbase and droupouts which could definitely help with that

Some describe it as a little bit harsh to pedal all day long, making it super responsive but maybe not ideal for super rocky easier trails on several days

Talking only about the mainstream stores leroy merlin and castorama, which are the easiest to find and the most focus on “everything in one place” they’ve lost a lot of stock diversity over the years, everyone around me agrees, and even the nice vendor of the tool section i often visit working there for 20years agrees with me.

Building an extension is what almost everyone does at the moment, or pay someone to, so of course they have stuff for that, that’s basic.

Depending on where you live and on what you do, if you have other options, you may have plenty of choice, or not

Anyway lets not digress, my fault, happy diy everyone 🙂

By the way, on a less ride feel and more geometry wise point of view, how is the rc429 « drop bar flat bar optimised » ?
appart from the slightly relatively higher stack than some more hardcore hardtails, and the very slightly shorter reach than some, which is like basic for an all day riding on all surfaces bike and not a pure race downhill shredder, it still is quite agressive as a hardtail  and basically can be  fit into drop bar because now we have plenty of very precise and niche components isn’t it ?
front center is almost 2cm more forward than on the closest solaris size c3 also, but isn’t that more on the aggro side too ?

Leroy merlin (pronounced in french) used to be an awesome hardwear store, nowadays it’s mainly paint and basic furnitures needs all inclusive, you need to get a full bathroom, new led lights or room for the baby, no worries they’ll fit it for you full price, you do it diy and need a special tool or part or paint diluter, well go on the internet, like everywhere
Stores are getting huge but choice is getting so limited…. No more old school hardwear store where you could find any spare parts, dangerous tools or non bio based products, its ikea everywhere now 😉

Damn, now i have 3 options instead of 2 !
i read very detailed reviews about the solaris and sirius but that doesn’t make the choice easier unfortunately… the solaris is clearly said to be a more allrounder though on bikepacking.com which indeed makes quality reviews. I think it should go as gravel all around -> pace rc429 -> solaris -> sirius 5/6 -> hardcore mountain bike.
the sliding dropout definitely are a big bonus for the sirius, but ride feel and body size fit can vary so much even though the geos aren’t so different…
i definitely should go on the island to test them out but that’s not gonna be possible any time soon unfortunately

Nordeste britanigo is nice but not really what I’m looking for. I have read all i could about low long slack and steel frames with short travel available around here, almost made my mind already but can’t share between the solaris and rc429 (and the sirius, but maybe a tad too much extreme to match the two others as an allrounder)
I was hoping someone could have been able to try the cotic and pace along and have a solid answer about the what the main differences are
its probably too soon yet though

Oh nice ! Last time i look the S6 was only in ti version.
this one looks very promising too, smaller frame space and really low but it does have a shorter wheelbase than both the solaris and rc429, and the sliding dropouts is definitely a interesting option

Thanks, fair to say it indeed, although i wasn’t expecting any bad surprise from either, both have good credits indeed.
Now it’s the ride feel and very little geo changes that will make a difference but there’s nothing to guide me on that yet unfortunately

Ps : the Pipedream sirius looks also super nice but no mounts, and probably perfect as an all mountain hardtail, less as a do it all not too boring on the flat as it sounds

Thanks, i love the look and details on the holt but unfortunately it has a t47 bb, and 27.2mm saddle tube, as well as maybe a bit too “conservative” geo, that’s too bad because otherwise it looks absolutely splendid and perfect.

I’ve heard cotic were fantastic to deal with indeed, that’s a fair good point although i’d love to know how these two bikes behave compared to each other

Briancon hasnt much but you’ll manage

Some massive supermarket are open on the sunday morning, there’s always a small part with minimum fixing stuff in it, often on the entrance side

Otherwise if you want to find a hardwear store near you just type “magasin bricolage” on google maps, but don’t expect much of them to be open on sunday.

I do love closed store on sunday, a day to focus on something else, but when you have a real big problem to fix and not what’s needed it can be a pain.

Although if it’s for the shower, we do have plenty of nice (rather cold) rivers along the way 😉

Hi you all
Hijacking this thread because i do have almost the same question but I’m 6 feet tall, 86cm inseam, normal arms i’d say, and i would love to fit a c3 on the new solaris, for a smaller bike, more playful and easier to turn around as i do have a part of my playground full of super sharp turns, too tight for my slightly longer FS.
Do you think it’s a reasonable option knowing I’ll also spend a lot of time bikepacking or shreddpacking all day long on it ?
Way too far to try it out unfortunately

Thanks, that’s helpful ! As well as for the size, definitely going to get a L then

i may well be a rc429 owner soon and join your team !

Ps : im getting closer and closer to get one, also curious about what size do you run.

I’m 6″ so just in between size L and X, tempted on the L for the funnier side a smaller frame allows

Perfectbike seems quite happy about it on its review but that’s a super short one and not very detailed for a professional job..

For those of you who rode it, do you share the too flexy (or very flexy) rear leading to loss of precision in the rowdy stuff or with powerful legs job as Kes wrote about it ?

Thanks a lot for your detailed infos mates, that’s sounds like a nice frame  to ride also then, i guess comfortable for long day rides too.

Has anyone had the chance to compare it with a new solaris ? I’d be super interested to know the differences in ride feeling, my heart is torn between the two of them…

Hi and thanks ! That was a quick and efficient answer !

How about climbing ability, weight etc ? Can it also be used as an xc fast machine if needed ?

I may press the button but it’s so hard choosing a frame without being able to try it out first..

Hi you rc429 owners or owners friends answering here
could it be possible to have a little review about the quality and feel of the frame ? The geometry is what I’m after but I’d like to know a bit more about quality and feel in details if possible and nothing about it yet, or almost
Thanks in advance !