Ti29er – before I bought the DW version, I rode my HL '05, my mate's faux bar, and a demo DW (left to right in the pics below) back to back for a 3hr ride over terrain I am very familiar with. I've owned the HL Spot from new, and it's been my main ride during that period; I also had a HL 6-Pack too, so feel I know the HL versions pretty well.

As many have observed, it's pretty difficult to tell the difference between the HL and non-HL versions – the HL bobs a bit anyway, requiring some pro-pedal when climbing.
The DW Link is noticably different from the off. It's probably most noticable when climbing – under pedalling, the bike sits up rather than sagging into it's travel, giving a better position and meaning you can run longer forks without the need to wind in. It is also snappier under acceleration, and can be pumped more through little undulations. Having also had an Ibis Mojo for a while, this is definately due to the DW Link rather than any other changes Turner have made.
My mate feels much the same way – he only bought the non-HL link towards the end of last year and is already considering the swap.

Hmmm – unless you want to run a front mech!

Whilst the odd interjection of "have you also considered this?" is always welcome, the OP asked owners for their pics and views on DW Turners, rather than an argument over Turner vs Nicolai.

TLR – fair enough. Each to their own. Whilst I love Nicolais and will undoubtedly own one at some stage (perhaps the new AFR) IMHO as a platform the DW Link is superior to the HL across the board. It also doesn't need a £600 shock to get the ride characteristics I want!

TLR – have you ridden a DW Link bike yet??

Am loving it – have had HL 5-Spot and 6-Pack in the past, as well as an Ibis Mojo, and this beats the lot as a do-it-all bike. My only regret is not waiting until the yellow special edition – Randall – that is stunning!

PS I'm now running Float 36's at full travel and it still climbs fantastically well!!

TLR – the DW Link beats the 4-bar every time for me 😉

An Intense Slopestyle – really want a slack-angled playbike. I know I'll barely use it as it'll be heavy as f#ck compared to everything else I own, but that's not the point!!

You'll miss the Stiffee. I had one, as well as a Turner 5-Spot. I sold the Stiffee when I got a Ti 456, and whilst I love both the Turner and On-One, a bit of me misses the Stiffee.

Nice – thinking about taking my motolite up there in october.

Cheers for the advice.

As for the classics, have done the Wayfarer and Monks Trod in the past, and whilst great scenery wouldn't bother repeating them. I also wondered if the Gap route would fit into the same category, and from the sounds of it, it does.

Done the Climach-x and might repeat – the downhill is superb.

Cader Idris is a possibility – I've walked it, climbed it, so I suppose I should ride it too!

Flows don't come with rim tape or valves. I use the yellow tape (a tenner from JRA) and standard Mavic UST valves.

Not tried a High Roller on the Traversees but suspect the 2.35" would be fine. I run 2.25" Nobby Nics on them and give a great profile.

If you want to run 2.5" for the occaisional Alps trips, I suspect the Flows may be a better bet. You are not taking much of a weight penalty in the scheme of things.
If you are getting them handbuilt, worth using super comp spokes over regular comps – worth about 60g per wheel.

May be able to help here…..

I have a set of Roval Traversees, and some Flows onto CK hubs built with DT Supercomp spokes. Respective weights are 1580g vs 1790g. Hope hubs are about 30g lighter than CK's. Note these weights are based on a nerdy spreadsheet I built rather than on the scales!! Both are run tubeless.

Out riding, the Rovals are noticably lighter, and quicker to spin up to speed. For such a light wheel, with a low spoke count, they are also pretty stiff.
I weigh 12.5st and the Rovals are on a Titus Motolite which is built up for lightweight all-mountain duty. As such, the wheels have been used in the Lakes, Scotland, do 4-5' jumps, and on one occaision the rear was cased on a ditch that I felt sure would have destroyed it – it didn't budge! The front one needed retruing after I put my foot into it in a rather bizarre slow-speed crash, but that's been about it in the 18 months or so I've owned them.
The CK/Flows are on a 456, and get used for local thrashes, inc 4-5' drops etc. They are stiff and reliable, and the Flow gives a great profile to something like a 2.2 – 2.3" tyre.

Overall I'd say you are light enough to get away with the Roval for pretty much any riding you'd do in the UK. I'd have no problems getting another pair.

BTW I'm based nr Godalming if you wanted to compare the two.

Yep mine been minimal this year too. Very odd.

Flows all the way. Give a much better profile to the tyres due to their extra width. Yes you have to use a special tape to turn them into tubeless, but this is a price worth paying for the extra width at no extra weight penalty.

I spent a cracking week with the family in Braemar with the wife and 2yr old daughter a few years' ago. I'm with the others – the attraction is the wilderness and the need to read a map to work out where to go!

Pikes don't like being hung like that. Dunno about Rebas.

What bike are you riding in the clip?

I've heard (and seen the videos)! He was pretty useful on a bike so would be waaaaay out of my league on skis!!

Yep – cracking day and great trails. Felix was most complementary about your riding!

RHS – Cheers for the suggestion on using Felix as a guide. Rode with him last Saturday (11th) and was awesome. Was it you we talked to in the afternoon as you were driving into Verbier in a silver Golf with an Orange on board???

I've got a pair as a replacement for a set of Wotans that kept falling apart.
On the positive side they are light, stiff, plush, and have good travel adjust. The main negative though is they blow through their travel easily when using the correct pressure as set by sag. This can be improved by using the Albert Select (effectively a platform) on it's lightest setting.

Would I buy them again? Not if paying full retail – I'd get some Foxes instead now they have proper axle systems. However, I suspect given their lack of popularity, you could probably pick a set up cheap, which may be a good deal.

Sold my Stiffee when I bought a Ti 456. Whilst I'm very happy with the trade, I occaisionally miss the outright hooliganism of the Stiffee! Brilliant bike!

Live just outside Godaliming – will keep my eyes peeled for it. Good luck.

I've a Titus Motolite Titanium Exogrid where the Ti tubes are inlaid with carbon to stiffen them up. The rear end is a mix of carbon and aluminium. Think the current cost of them is around the £3k mark – I picked mine up off ebay for a hell of a lot less. The frame is a work of art, and is nice and light, but I can't honestly say it's any better (or worse) than other materials, and I wouldn't dream of paying the full retail price for one.

All depends on the spoke you use. I built with the triple butted super comps, which brings the weight into pretty much the same, although you need rim tape with the flows.

Have the latest SX's and CK + Flows. Prefer the SX's – pick up is v quick, they are very stiff, they work better tubeless, and best of all they look mighty pimp!

Buy one but be realistic over how much you spend. I only use mine half a dozen times a year but love it every time I use it!

I'm 5'10.5" and went with a 16". I run a 70mm stem and a lay-back post (needs to be a long-un) and it's a great play-bike. If he was doing longer rides then perhaps the 18" but Brant advised on the 16" for buggering about on and I think he was spot-on.

Got an old 31.8mm seat clamp does the trick.

Think the new Giro Xen ones do – that's what I'm getting next.

Exactly the same here – US bought frame, small crack on swingarm, direct response from Scott, and new part 10 days later. Shame it happened twice!!!

Chris – glad it worked out! Don't want to sell it do you??

Cheers for the advice, esp RHSno2 – rode with Felix for the day who managed to scare the hell out of me with some of the trails we rode! He's pretty useful on a bike – can only imagine how good he is on skis. Mrs took a shine to him too!
Now have to work out how I get back out there for a full week! Awesome stuff!

Neither – go in the middle!! Elan Valley, Mach, Pont Scethin, Cadair Idris – all awesome natural rides.

Spoken to the main companies in town and all booked out. Cheers for the advice wl

I have Pikes and demo’d a DW Spot with Revs. The Revs are not as stiff, and is noticable in rocky terain. Weigh less though. If you want 20mm Fox, you can get 36’s and reduce the travel to 140mm.

Yep – stolen from Watford last week as posted on Pinkbike.

Surprised no-one has mentioned it, but loads of stunning wild camping spots in Glen Etive. In fact, it resembles a full-on camp site on some occaisions it’s so popular! Some great swimming in the river too, but as everywhere, midge central with no breeze.

I find that upper body weight sessions pay dividends for mountain biking, being able to “muscle” the bike around a bit more. Clearly much less important for road riding though.

It’s a while since I’ve ridden Nevagals – I went from them to Nobby Nics and never went back. FWIW, just put some rubber queens on (2.2″ UST) and reckon they are as good if not better than NN’s and prob cheaper.