Thanks Joe. I ride with two chaps who own Birds who seem to rate them. I like the look of the Cotic – steel frames look better I think. The Bird appears to be a more refined design (rear triangle for example).
Both Bird and Cotic have really long frames – do people ride them long, or are they just buying a smaller size than normal? At 6’ 2” I’m usually an XL, but it looks like I’ll be a L for both.