Update.

Thanks guys. managed to get it off with a tap. Internal on the hub is busted up. I had noticed a strange grind on the last few rides, but thought it was my BB.

Cassette survived so new hub time!

cheers for the advice

Yup, when the small cogs usually move they don’t The hub starts to unscrew as I can see the thread near the wheel underneath the cassette as I unscrew it.

Yup, using all the proper tools :)

Sorry, it’s a SRAM 11 speed :)

Yeah, seems there’s lots to consider. The hike and bike is that I do both so a dog that can do both would be ideal. But might not exist with the other things that have to tick the boxes for the lady.

Probably going to go do a bit of dog walking with a local rescue place, but yeah, need to make the decision with the mind not the heart. As the last thing I want to do is have to put the poor thing back in one again. Apparently I’m not allowed to do it with the kids ;)

I guess if the dog does a bit of biking with me. Love the idea of a good ride with the dog bringing up the rear, but as it’s not the main thing it has to be an extra.

Cheers

My Auntie had a big black poodle, no euphemism, when I was young. Great dog! Big thing, but was soft as owt!

Dogs are for hunting in packs and eating us silly humans until we got involved with em IMO!

Yeah, just looking at those. seems a bit more robust! We were looking a Schnauzers, but not sure if the guard dog in them might drive us a bit nuts. Not looking to train out a breed trait. Spent the last few years doing that with my kids LOL

Yeah, upto 10 miles is ok. I have heard they just keep going so sometimes you don’t realise you are doing them harm.

The more I look into it though, the more I think I need a breed that can kick out some energy. Just not sure a Border Collie might be too much???

Thanks, yeah, sounds like they are going to be a little slow and lack the endurance I really would like.

Man, it’s tricky picking a dog when there’s so many things to consider when you have a family etc…

Now, I quite fancy a Spring Spaniel. Anyone had any experiences of these dogs? Families, biking, hiking etc.

Ta :)

BTW, end of the day any breeding is making the gene pool shallow… A mutt is the best choice, but it’s a gamble on what kind of dog you get :/ I am not in a position to look after another nutter in the house ;) That’s me included ;)

? I have two small kids. I have always got rescue animals, but as we need to try and get something that will fit in, temperament wise so I’m looking for a puppy that will fit the bill.

I’m happy to lend you my two mental kids for a week! Last thing I want is another animal with behaviour issues. So trying to do my homework.

I have also looked after rescue dogs in the past, before kids, and know that I’m not looking to train out bad habits or put my kids at risk as the dog has some mental issues.

I know nothing is guaranteed, but on this occasion I’m trying to get something that will fit in and not take a shit load of work to fix. It’s sad, I know, as if I was on my own I would just get a rescue mutt. Not my circumstance so can’t risk it.

Thanks

Yeah, the daily distance is 3-5 miles without thinking so it needs to be able to do that a more when I go for a longer hike or bike.

If they can generally do 10-15 miles while I’m on the bike then should be good :)

Cheers

Yeah, just never touched it. How come you leave yours off completely?

The dial. Fully turned to the right then 3 clicks anti-clockwise.

Cheers :)

Me too ;)

Good as gold on the very minor dings. On the perfect bits it’s messed up.

Hence my frustration on the job.

There is no damage to the bike where the edges are. It’s contamination, which was not on the bike when it went in.

Anyhow, if they come up trumps I’ll sing their praises. Very easy to get bogged down. The majority of you guys agree it’s not good enough so that was the reason to start the post. Not to have a go.

Thanks guys :)

Sounds like unless Lee does it you’re better off going solo :/

Exactly…. like YouTube! We’ll be onto Nazi’s next! Though I’m sure the SS would require papers for the bike! It’s a German Capra… it has papers!!!! :/

I have my reasons. Not sure trolling will help!

Keeping something looking good after spend shy of 3k?

Having kids so don’t want to spend precious day doing stickers when I get a pass for riding.

Again, didn’t say crap under decals and bubbles so wouldn’t have bothered otherwise.

I’d pay loads of money for time to do it myself. Not happening this time of 2020.

Try 2 overactive kids and no family to support. Can’t get shit done.

Was going to do it myself, but thought, for once, I’d give the pros a crack.

Hindsight – do it myself as usual!!! And sleep less ;)

I do get it. I spent years learning my software development skills. I can offer a simple job cheaper as I can do them with my eyes closed. Just had a guy fit outr decking in record time and looks spot on. Would have taken me ages. I paid for pros. If they can’t do it right don’t do it!!!!!

Didn’t say invisiframe bodge job 130 brick!

Not saying the job is easy. That’s why I wanted someone with some skill.

Again though, I’m all for second chances. Just do it properly as a quick bodge won’t do!

I’m gonna going to ping Lee with this and see what he thinks.

But to be fair, I’m going to let them come back with it and see what they do…. If they sort me out then nothing beats customer service. Just hope they see me right and I will sing their praises.

Shit happens sometimes, but as long as they sort it I will go back as that’s when the real service kicks in :)

Cross fingers :)

Exactly mate, and I get that….

It was the 58 quid that was BS as they make their margin. Not going to do that job for 58 brick! By the time you’ve paid your staff etc. You guys seen the UBYK showroom…. very nice.

daver27 – Yeah… I cleaned all the crap off so there was no crud. They said they would then properly clean the rest with the proper stuff. If it was bad surely they would have called me and said this is a no go! It’s not like it’s a shit job at the back where all the grease ends up…. It’s more or less tidy back there.

Again…. this magic offset that some people think happens… If there’s grease by the rear mech, you get contamination near the head tube? Sorry, I don’t get that. Don’t care how long you’ve been running a lbs!

My job is logic…. I deal in logic…. Lets do logic :)

Tom Howard – That’s crap…. I haven’t ridden it much due to an injury last year. Been in the shed. Where there are tiny knocks the kit looks spot on! It’s dodgy on random parts of the frame that are faultless.

Only reason it has any knocks is from blasting down the south downs recently. That’s on the bottom tube where the kit is pretty much faultless! Unless the kit somehow looks worse offset from the tiny damage then that makes no sense.

I’m not a tool. If it didn’t look good on the bits that had taken very minor cosmetic damage this post wouldn’t exist. They have got crap on the decals where the frame is faultless…. that’s not good enough.

BTW, you paid full price for goods for bikes? Blimey. I run an online toy shop. Wouldn’t get very fair paying full tilt! I’d have a word with the MD and get a better deal.

How did I pay 58? Have you any idea about retail? As a shop you don’t pay RRP!

They will have paid at most half of that…. so it’s more like 90 quid profit.

The guy wants to take some off to see if it’s the frame. Like I wouldn’t have noticed all those bumps all over. I would have sent it back to YT saying they have messed up the paint work. Guess they’re giving themselves breathing room.

If you cant do the job, don’t offer the service! Simples…

How did I pay 58? Have you any idea about retail? As a shop you don’t pay RRP!

They will have paid at most half of that…. so it’s more like 90 quid profit.

The guy wants to take some off to see if it’s the frame. Like I wouldn’t have noticed all those bumps all over. I would have sent it back to YT saying they have messed up the paint work. Guess they’re giving themselves breathing room.

If you cant do the job, don’t offer the service! Simples…

Yeah, if it had been a couple of bits I’d have rolled with it. It’s just so many it’s not possible as on the seat tube I put a scratch in it a week earlier and had a cry ;) So I know the rest was spot on. There’s shit all over it.

But yeah, easy at install. Rushed job as some of the edges weren’t even pushed down. I did it with my thumb…. How can they not use their thumbs? So was a bit worse when I initially got it back. Was just all the crap underneath that takes the piss. I could have done that in front of my tv on my carpet on the rug !

Experience… I’m wondering if they get them in few and far between.

I’m not having a go at the guy that did it, but you’ve just shown me it’s all down to experience. Just like my job ;) Like I could write regular expressions when I first started. Looked like voodoo…..

Hopefully will get this sorted. Think the guy in the shop knew it wasn’t really up to scratch once he saw all the bits. If it had that many bits on the paintwork I would have sent it by to YT!

Thanks for everyones input though as this is what single tracks forum is all about…. :)

BTW, epic Single Track :) Updated the title :) Cheers guys :)

Now back on point ;)

Right, messaged singletrack as I don’t want to slag the company off!

So, took it in and they are trying to say might be paint imperfections? But they will take a look and lift it.

I would have noticed all those bumps in the paintwork…. Like I don’t know my bike.

Had it a year, but had an injury so actually haven’t ridden it very much.

Rorschach – You have made a big assumption…. Why would I want to do that? I have no vendetta against invisiframe and am not seeking attention. I just feel let down by the job that was done. I strive, in my field as a developer, to do the best I can. When I pay good money I expect the same service.

Just wish I had the time to do it myself as this is why I usually do stuff myself :/

Hmmmmm can’t change it :/

K….. THIS POST IN NOW WAY REFLECTS THE INVISIFRAME COMPANY! IT WAS FITTED BY A BIKE SHOP

I will contact singletrack and see if I can get the title changed as I agree it doesn’t read right and I like the product, just not the fitting by the bike shop.

Fair play that’s not intentional!

I will update the first post if I can’t update the title.

It’s UBYK who did it.

It was 130 all in…

I agree, I would be embarrassed to send something out looking like that.

As I paid 130 I want a good job. If it had been cheap then I might have thought about living with it, though still a little disappointed.

I would like them really to do it again properly and take their time about it. Not thinking I’ll just accept shoddy work. They are a premium bike shop and do it at a premium price from what I can see. I expect an above par job.

It’s more the point. I recently paid them a pretty penny for a new bottom braket as it was push fit and expect to be treated like someone they want back.

There are some bits that I would accept, but the larger pieces need doing again.

Also, if I was doing it I would wrap any bits in cling film, which might kick out crap when applying. Not rocket science.

When I said stripped I meant I had taken nearly all the components off the bike so they could get to the frame.

Cheers

The frame is stripped though… there are no bits of grit around the front of the bike. If it was more to the back then I would get it. There is nothing round the top tube.

I have done decals before and it’s easy to get crap on them if you’re not careful. Doesn’t matter how new the frame is.

More the fact they have left sloppy edges that will lift. Then I’ll just have to rip it off and it was a waste of time.