Robbo, no black chilli Rubber Queens on 29ers yet. I’m thinking the Hans Dampf Front, Snakeskin Ralph rear would be a good alterantive. The HD will be grippier than the Queen up front and the Ralph faster than the Queen out back.

The snakeskin Schwalbes are tough.

Eitherway, 29lb without dropper should be easy enough if you build it smart as per your description.

Capability wise, the Gyro is no current Five, but I’ve got the 9mm rear 2008 Five without the taper HT which is built fairly light (9mm fork too) – The Gyro feels way more capable and quicker on everything except big drops – that’s where the big wheels mean nothing and travel is everything.

I think the Gyro is being pinned as short travel but tbf, it’s 110mm rear 120mm front. And to me it sits about halfway between a Tallboy and a Tallboy LT. If you know Treks, I’d say it was closer to a Rumblefish than a Superfly…

Ant: I have no idea on these things myself, but Fi made me buy some Salomon Speedcross 2s and I really like them so far. Horrific colours are available too which you might be interested in.

Edit: they’re not horrible to run in on the road so if you have some asphalt before you get offroad, they’re fine too.

Really should sort the thread title. Even if the OP had a point here, the thread title and reaction are way out.

I’ve found UK Bike Store to be fantastic in the past. Ordered my sons trailer and first bike helmet from them and was very pleased!

I’m currently at 31.1lb – but that’s with dropper, All Mountain wheels, Hans Dampfs and 2×10 with Bash. It’s a UK Enduro build basically.

I reckon I can get mine down to 28lb dead, but that’s still with 2.25 Snakeskin Ralphs and an All Mountain tubeless wheelset rather than an XC wheelset. No dropper and 1×10. Oh and a MT Zoom 740mm Carbon bar.

So not compromised at all and probably a very good allround build for the Gyro as a trail bike. You could go to a sturdy XC wheelset and lose another half pound and probably still not ruin it. So 27.5lb.

I reckon you could get it as low as 26.5lb but you’d be getting to silly money wheels that might ruin it, silly money groupset and you’d probably have to compromise it a lot on tyres (non-snake skin Ralphs perhaps).

The 1×10 and carbon bar are going to stay, so I can bring the Enduro spec down to 30lb. This allows me to go from 28lb trail bike to 30lb UK Enduro bike just by changing the tyres and removing the dropper. If it’s dry I’d probably leave the Ralph on the rear of the Enduro spec for a half way house.

I’m still experimenting anyway :wink:

Orange and 29er, should cause controversy…

Orange and 29er, should cause controversy…

Two ways: do you feel like you need it (confidence)? Or go on Strava and see how fast/slow good/crap you are (ego)…

Nice build! Seriously, get riding! Your biggest worry will be all the younguns wanting a go on your sweet Five :wink:

Micky, I’m going down the Hope route. Integrated bash ring plus seat tube mount guide. Have heard the guide might not be needed on the hope ring/bash though

Based on a quick ride of Tom’s (Mojo), much slacker, much tougher, heavier.

Imagine if Orange did a 4″ Five, that’s the Gyro, and the new 29er is a 29″ Five. If you get me…

Chris, stop fretting and just post pics of the shiny bike already! That’s all anyone is going to care about when you’re out anyway :wink:

Good luck!

Soonish – keep an eye out end of Feb. Expect a bit on me exploring it for it’s UK Enduro potential (big tyres, gone tubeless with new lighter wheels, dropper post and going 1×10), I’m waiting on the 1×10 bits at the mo. I’m also going to cover it at the lighter end of things (without needing mega bucks or compromising it). But yeah, essentially hoping to show in the next report how versatile it is and the two ends of its usage spectrum. Should be an interesting one!

Yes Roverpig, 135×12 is terrible, I curse it everytime I ride the thing, I promise. :wink:

Nicemates, might be of interest: http://www.cyclistno1.co.uk/blog/longtermer-orange-gyro-pro-2.htm

135 on mine!

Edit: which is a 2013 pro, not a 2012 Black Gold either.

A medium is 13kg

Is that the reverb equipped one with Pedals… I doubt it very much. I’ve ridden one and I reckon 30lb once the pedals are on would be my guess. MBR had it at 29.1lb but don’t specifiy whether that was with pedals or not.

It was good but I thought the M-109 was not far behind on the downs but felt more lively and more fun to ride. At the press launch we all rushed for the T-129 but were fighting over the M-109 by the end.

Some snow action with the family:

Well my wife took this one… but she was shooting on my settings :P

2007 was fist kinked head tube.

Can’t remember whether the tapered head tube was ’10 or ’11. I might be wrong but I think the bigger seat tube was not until 2012…

If it’s a Five:

Standing up and mashing uphill, yes it’ll bob.
Stabbing away in the granny ring (that sounds wrong), yes it’ll bob.
Otherwise, no, they pedal really well actually. Modern shock and good pivot placement means the chain growth effect keeps them nicely taut under power and really active when freewheeling.

Generally middle/big-ring spinning, they’re great. They’re also very good pedalling stood-up on the flat and downhill, again, you just need the cadence and power consistency to work with the chain growth. Very intuitive and effective though.

Stand up on a long climb and you will be begging for the pro-pedal lever.

Already pre-emptively working from home. No point battling with the car driving proles, and while I could cycle in just fine, we keep our bikes indoors and there may be a problem with that :)

still amazes me how people bang on about a 5 and miss the heckler, just as good (and bad) but for the difference you can get a decent fork upgrade and an extra 10mm or travel. (heckler owner waiting to buy something more sophisticated)

Assuming it fits you, I’ve always liked the look of the heckler but the sizing is bloody odd to be frank, way too short for a given standover.

Orlando Bloom

My boy rearranging the Jurassic Coast last weekend…

Seems like all you want to hear is doom and gloom so nobody spends anything at all and we guarantee a triple/quadruple dip ?

Na, just some policies that actually encourage growth rather than kill it, and not pumping out news that just pretends it’s all going well.

Also the OP posted “Why are so many people driving new cars”, which suggests the news piece did what was actually intended.

I’ve got a car dealer in the family, believe me, ‘lots of people’ are not driving new cars.

Honda blamed sales figures in Mainland Europe for the job losses.

Not the UK.

Is that not a bit political too, blame mainland europe, not the country where the jobs are being lost.

Doesn’t change that fact that car sales are still well down on pre 2008 levels and this is non-news trying to pretend the economy is fine and picking up, when it’s far from it.

Politically driven reporting. “Highest since 2008”, the year which was a massive new low after a steady decline and then crash between 2003 and 2007.

Honda have just slashed production permanently in the UK stating that they don’t see car sales increasing at all in the next few years.

I reckon a 650D with a 40mm pancake prime would be brilliant Family camera but £££ :)

Anmy decent compact should be doing better than this

But you missed…

especially indoors or in limited light (which is pretty much 24/7 at the moment.)

Even a mid-range DSLR sucks in these conditions without a very expensive fast zoom, or limiting yourself to a prime lens. In my pic above, I was probably shooting at ISO1600 (bearable noise performance on a 550D) and probably at 1.8 (only top end compacts allow for that), and still battling 1/50 shutter speeds. And he wasn’t even moving.

I’ve got a 5D for work use but I can’t always bring that home, now that’s nice but deffo not what you’re looking for :)

I’m not very clued up on the latest micro 4/3rds etc, but I tend to find the only way to get nice indoor pictures of my family without horrid inbuilt flash is a fast prime (no zoom) lens on a DSLR with good high iso performance.

Something like a 550D with a 50 1.8 isn’t too bad to lug around and if you teach your wife to just use P mode (mostly auto) and set the ISO to auto, she’ll have no problem using it.

My son…

I love the statistic that violent crime is higher in the UK V US

Their gun death rate is over 40 times higher than ours, but our rape rate is only 1 rape per 100,000 people higher than theirs (I’ve used rape because he used the Delhi rape as an example).

And we’ve got the problem?

It looks like a Trek that melted a bit!

Fox DOSS, no protection but use Brunox Fork Lube spray to clean up the seal after every ride (squirt, compress/extend and wipe). Prob nearly a 1000km of riding over the winter and it’s faultless so far.

I reckon the DOSS despite it’s ‘unique features’ might even prove to be more reliable than the Reverb…

You’ll also notice hangovers last longer and take less to instigate.

That ship sailed a long time ago!

I’m in! Never done this before but fatherhood and nearing 30 has meant that eating whatever I want as long as I ride seems to be a thing of the past. I’ve hit a ceiling training wise too so I’m looking at that little ring around my waist that has formed over the last year or two.

Started out at 78kg last week. 76.5kg this week. Goal is 69kg by my 30th (end of March in case you’re buying :wink:)

I understand that the newer protection models are essentially tubeless ready and they’ve started selling their own sealant.

Hans Dampfs are insanely good – the trailstar feels closeish to a Supertacky Maxxis. Something a bit quicker on the rear might be an idea for the man made stuff, but if it’s rooty and a bit muddy, they’re awesome front and rear…

They’re big so be wary of frame clearance. They’re ok in a Fox Float fork though.

Neon Green Gyro

Fools Gold Five

Apple Green (I think) Patriot

Black Patriot

The neon will be muuuuch brighter but well worth it if it’s your kind of thing.

This is Neon Green just for a guide to how insanely bright the neon colours are:

Doh!

American Classics with tubeless ready Schwalbes is actually less faff to change tyres than with inner tubes!