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Yeah, but he’s just another hand-wringing, pro-EU, elitist wet blanket.

“Look, I can drink ten pints of Carling, headbutt a road sign and still have room for a kebab. I win”. Says your average working class Brexie.

As with Brexit, these peoples beliefs have not even the remotest foundation in reality, but they don’t care.

As a one-liner to explain all this, it is hard to think of one better.

I don’t think this lot have got a clue about the seriousness of the recession we’re about to hit, and even less of a clue what to do about it

I wouldn’t be so sure. They’ll be looking at it as an opportunity to deregulate the way to greater profits for their mates whilst screwing over the workforce.

Edit: After all, they did deliberately cause a lot of this via Brexit.

Does it though?

Yes, because when they throw their toys about having to wait more than five minutes for a hospital appointment they have been told by The Sun that it is bedwetting, pro-EU, elitist fifth columnists that have caused it with Health and Safety.

Not the arseholes at the top who are trying to kill it by defunding it so it fails, then selling bits off to their mates.

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The Pencil has also said the EU might commit an act of ‘self harm’.

How the **** can most people not see this shit for what he is?

The private sector is resolutely failing to fill the void left by a shrinking public sector.

That won’t stop them paying dividends, paying exec salaries, and taking exec bonuses in the interim, though.

The Haunted Pencil is on R4 now. Trolling his supporters and the grownups as usual.

What a ****.

Meanwhile Truss has got her Poundshop Thatcher outfit out of her dressing up box and is going to ‘get Northern Ireland done’. 😂

What a bunch of tossers.

Unfortunately it’ll never happen as too many people are selfish, both rich & poor – the rich you can see why, it’s to their benefit. But the poor? Just idiots.

Well, gullible at best. The current ‘Hypernormalisation’ state of the UK psyche has ‘the poor’ constantly focused on those who are slightly worse off than them and fearing them. Not the cynical shits at the top who nicked billions in the early days of the pandemic.

It has been remarkably effective, bit it does rely on a fair bit of stupidity on the part of those being duped. It wouldn’t work otherwise. Sigh.

As before, Jack Monroe is an easy target for the gammons.

If she goes on too much they’ll get Priti Nasty to revive trial by ducking stool as a way to test for alternative lifestyles witchcraft.

Mrs vardy appears to be particularly loathsome.

She is. An utter oxygen thief.

Anti-EU sentiment came in many forms, and some thinking they were being led by an anti-democratic elite club was a strong narrative around here too.

So they voted for a movement fronted by Alexander Boris De Pfeffel Johnson.

😂

The international equivalent of Sleepy Pastures, retirement home for the terminally bewildered

It’s a good analogy because many dementia sufferers can remember what happened 80 years ago, but not what happened more recently.

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Didn’t we try to join the common market three times but were rejected twice as it was thought we would just be divisive trouble makers?

A lot of that was De Gaulle being, well, De Gaulle. He actually made Harold MacMillan cry at one point. Then took the piss by telling an audience he wanted to say “Ne pleurer pas, m’lord”.

But yes, we had to accept not to be a pain in the arse when it came to the ‘special relationship’ with the US and any colonial pretensions we may have still been nursing.

The ‘special relationship’ did mean something so long as the US wanted the UK as an unsinkable aircraft carrier and a base for polaris subs.

Now it is the EU that has a better relationship with the US and ‘we’ look like a bunch of prats. Which ‘we’ are.

blame…. foreigners of course

Labour was always in a difficult spot with this ex-coalfields and Brexit.

That’s a roundabout way of saying that many of the Red Wall constituents harboured xenophobic (at best) or racist (at worst) tendencies. Labour idealists tend to get a bit touchy about that sort of thing.

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Jack Monroe

Her lifestyle makes her an easy target for the culture war thugs.

Momentum obviously had him well sussed out.

When are they getting around to sorting Kate Hoey out?

Hopefully karma will do its thing and they’ll end up getting filled in and chucked in the canal.

Hope you are not too shaken up.

Lee Anderson is exactly the sort of chippy thug that the modern Tories are designed to appeal to.

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Haven’t a clue what it’s all about and have no intention of finding out.

Put it this way. It has me actually coming down on the side of Coleen Rooney. That is ****ed up enough to know that I need to avoid any coverage as best I can.

Self-obsessed twunts.

It’s almost as though the gammony loudmouths that this ‘government’ appeal to just like picking fights for their own sake. Not actual fights where you might get hurt, obvs, but culture war type fights where they can act the big man whilst concealing the big yellow streak down their backs.

A government designed to appeal to nationalist knuckle draggers.

Ace.

I am one of those bastard centralists who spoils everything though.

It never ceases to amaze me how much some people dislike reasonableness and consensus.

Lap what up?

mud slinging from the blue corner

Answered your own question there. Although it isn’t so much a blue corner any more as a red and white one.

Ingerland, ingerland, la-la, oi-oi.

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

And the electorate will lap it up. That is how we got here in the first place.

I bet I can hazard a guess how she voted in the referendum, if at all, too.

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She’s from Furuk

That is not in the slightest bit surprising. 🙂

Best case scenario is that a pissed off copper has tipped Starmer the nod that there won’t be a FPN, and make whatever capital out of it you can.

Whatever, it won’t affect Johnson. He wouldn’t resign if he was found, covered in blood, holding a bloodied lead pipe next to the corpse of Mr Black in the Library. And the kind of arsehole that votes for Brexit or a Conservative party headed by Johnson wouldn’t give a shit anyway.

It is what it is.

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Peter Davison was ‘my’ doctor. It is a useful tool for ageing people.

I’m thinking that Posen is a bit of a bogeyman for the Corbynite left as he also openly drew conclusions about the racial element of the Leave vote, especially in the ‘Red Wall’.

🙂

^^^

Not really, but your argument is the same as the government’s about covid death rates.

We are doing shit, compared to countries A-X, but we can’t compare ourselves to A because blah blah…..and we can’t compare ourselves to X because blah blah blah.

Which leaves us with Y and Z, who we are doing better than, so job jobbed.

What is the obvious, totally avoidable and unnecessary drag on our economy that distinguishes us from the rest of Europe, I wonder…

Why is UK inflation higher than Germany’s despite the latter’s much publicised dependence on Russian gas?

To work out the impact of Brexit a reasonable formula might be to take German inflation, knock off a couple of percent and note the difference. Under this rationale you get to something like 40-60% due to Brexit. And don’t forget that this compounds. German inflation will level off sooner as it is a one-off shock that can be mitigated to an admittedly higher price, but it will roughly stay there. Constant drag on flows of goods through ports will continue to dog the UK economy for long after.

Good luck with that debate, though. 😅

^^^

Spoken like a true Brexiteer.

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/may/08/the-economy-is-collapsing-yet-i-cant-recall-a-government-so-devoid-of-a-plan

Reality must prevail about where economic opportunity lies. Modern economies are densely interrelated, with supply chains that cross borders. Britain has too few corporate “primes” that lead their sector, but it does have lots of medium-size companies whose business is being part of a wider supply chain.

Well, one (rich) man’s red-tape is another (poor) man’s protection.

But that’s what ‘we’ voted for…

the voting public seem to be fundamentally stupid

Yep.

Dissonance saying to kelvin

I know you are a factional extremist

That’s a contender for post of the year. Irony overload.

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In Islam the dispute between Sunni vs Shia is the bloodline

Bloodline vs non-bloodline AFAIK. Which means it was essentially a political split from the start. Makes you think.

Well, I’m definitely going to seek out a ‘Beyond Belief’ episode on orthodox Christianity now my interest has been piqued.

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I warned you…

Right you, outside. Now.

<disengages from the thread before the North Korean style clique assemble for death by reductio ad absurdum>