My Five has a kasima RP23 and RLCs, both noticeably plusher that the old stuff.

ps flow are you volunteering to build an extension on my house to fit my bikes in?

No, I am offering you my knowledge, keep the bike in the bedroom.

Better than leaving it in your shed/garage like most people seem to do.

Pagey seemed to be getting on OK with his yesterday.

No cracks, nothing.

As if he would tell anyone if one of his did fail 🙄

Flow – Careful now, you dick are going to get yourself banned again!

Sprechen sie English?

Nice one, edited 😉

the suspension performance is more a product of springs, damping and whatnot

Stiffness isn’t performance? Think about that a bit more.

Steerer length and stem placement surely also contribute more to effective weight distribution and difference in ride feel more than a minute geometry change.

Correct, same stem and steerer length though.

Edit: I am properly bored of this thread now

Anyway, TJ, Molgrips and me are best friends now. They have promised not to get me banned again.

Apparently you do. What did you do to get a straight red?

Something to do with this thread

Molgrips
Flow – just chill the fk out. If you disagree, state your case nicely. Otherwise f off. Simply dishing out abuse over a small technical point is not nice.

Might have been this

Flow
Then don’t come on here telling me in wrong with your nose between TJ’s bum cheeks.

or this

Flow
You are so thick its comical.

or maybe this

Flow
A 50cc scooter is a moped, are you TJ’s love child?

or this

Flow
And what the **** is that about….Stop talking shit

Rather than banning people why not introduce an ignore option?

An ignore option, and at least a warning before you get banned, I never get any 😥

Have to remember as well that the flex in a 32 at 140 will be a fair few more tenths of a percent greater than the flex in a 36 lowered to 140, thus increasing the gap between both ride height and perceived bike handling.

That would be correct, except I was talking about the angles, not suspension performance. You can tell the difference in geometry riding down the road 😉

So do you think its alright to cross words out you idiot, like you made a mistake?

Kind of like you meant it but had second thoughts because you remembered “the rules”

Whatever you say almighty one.

Keep up – that’s why the other profile is banned for 99 years!

Meaning both profiles dumbass (I crossed that out, therfore no rules were broken)

I was using a different profile when I was banned for telling the Mitch to **** *** and the Mods to **** ***!

Isn’t using a different profile a ban-able offence? You just dropped yourself right in it 😆

So whats the difference in you withdrawing the money, and them confiscating the money?

Either way, who ever put it in their in the first place is 10k down and is going to be at your door with pick axe handles and a can of unleaded.

I would rather that happen whilst being 10k better off, you could use it to get a shotgun and a licence ready for the visit.

I got banned once for being insulted, who knows what the rules are?

Ask TJ, he makes them up.

I got banned for 99 years once

How old are you now then?

oh well, I’m happy with what I’ve ordered, thanks anyway, your a good’un!

As long as your happy mate, thats all that matters.

flow – no further response then?

Sorry Al, not today mate, not feeling too good TBH.

Flow -maybe to do with the severity of the breach of the rules?

I don’t think I’m that bad to be honest, not worthy of a 7 day ban anyhow.

I like the fact that Elf takes every other day off now. It’s good for this place.

How come he gets banned for a day and I get banned for 7!

Ahh, I would buy a hub, £40 for a Pro 2, not much to get it built if you can’t do it yourself.

http://www.merlincycles.co.uk/Bike+Shop/Frame++Forks/Forks++Shocks/Rockshox+Suspension+Forks/2012+Revelation+RCT3+-+Dual+Air+-+150mm+-+15mm+Maxle+-+White_RS605002.htm

If I was you I would cancel that order and get these, they are about 4 models higher up the range, 2012 versions, and with the new damping system.

Nothing worse than not owning up to it either

That was agreeing? Hmmm

Yes. Stealing ten grand from professional criminals who know where you live and have personal details of your family. What’s the worst that could happen?

Errr, thats why that sentence was followed by

Your wife is kidnapped and held hostage. Well worth 10k.

🙄

And how do you feel about that?

Pretty pathetic if you ask me, especially as most of the time the “debate” is hardly one sided.

There are certain people on here who like to dish it out, but when they get some back, they go crying to the mods.

I know who they are 😈

Take the money, whats the worst that could happen? You wife is kidnapped and held hostage. Well worth 10k.

some of us get banned for the slightest indiscretion yet the time served get away with blue murder

I’ve been a paid member for ages and manage to get banned at least once a month.

Do you think we could ban those stupid “My bike got stolen from my shed/garage” threads. Or at least have an automated reply saying “what did you expect dumbass?”

Probably just hepatitis, nothing to worry about.

Wouldn’t you be better comparing axle to crown lengths rather than travel, especially if you’re changing from one brand to another?

Yep

Occasionally riding on your own is good, better to share it with others though.

Mmmbop at £275 rrp is the obvious answer to that one.

Anymore?

Yup, just much more expensive. £350 they are…

Compared to?

No more basic than any other 6061 aluminium frame

If you could establish that you’d considered and accounted for all the factors, and made your comparison (relatively) meaningful, you would have done so, no?

But you haven’t, you’ve not even stated that you’d considered them, though by implication you accept they are relevant…so it’s you that is jumping to conclusions, not me.

Ahhh so I’m the one jumping to conclusions! Thats where we went wrong 😆

Sit down and go downhill

Of course I wasn’t, but you’ve not posted a single word to even suggest that you considered their effect.

Exactly Al, you weren’t there were you.

Still you go on thinking you know what you’re on about, and jumping to conclusions as usual.

They’re speakin the truth. Dont you ride an Orange 5 anyway? Thats the classic mincing machine

Might be a mincing machine with you riding one you fairy

I am telling you there are numerous other factors which you have still not accounted for

Really? Here when I set them up were you?

You get more comical every post Al, you should do stand up 😆

Longer wheelbase? – 0.5 deg on 40″ wheelbase would make it 4mm longer – that’s 0.4%
Higher BB? – 2.5mm higher – that’s 0.7% higher

On their own they sound insignificant, together they make a lot of difference.

Yep, clearly does.

You are telling me I am wrong for being able to tell the difference in a 0.5 degree HT angle, longer wheelbase, and higher B/bracket.

Obviously you have a lot to learn 😆