Oh, Mr C, you are spot on. I’m off down the shops for a date with the tunnocks sisters (all 8 of them!).

That Marin perfectly demonstrates the problem. £750 for that or £1200 for the longitude…Both bikes have some compromises, but the Marin wins out purely on value, which was kind of the trick that Genesis pulled with the original Longitude.

Cook chose to bat first exactly because he didn’t want to be batting last on this pitch. England have to do something catastrophically stupid to lose this test.

What a great day’s cricket, haven’t been this satisfied by test cricket since 2005.

Very unlucky there for Starc, appealed for the wrong ball!

quite happy for England to sacrifice a few wickets if they carry on scoring decent totals at 4-5 an over…

Ian Bell has been lovely to watch. When he’s good, I don’t think there’s a more beautiful striker of the ball.

With our newfound batting depth, might as well go after it a bit. 250 runs by the end of today puts us in a very good position.

They didn’t need to make it better, just to fulfil demand.
The 2016 longitude essentially appears to be a standard 29er frame with a stupid fork.

I’m a member of a union, but I joined to ensure that the terms and conditions that I signed up to are honoured

Um…

The underground staff are on strike for exactly that reason…

Maybe try finding out facts before criticising people.

Wow, just seen that Gene “The Machine” Hoglan is now drumming with Fear Factory. He really is an exceptionally talented drummer. He did the drumming on my favourite Death album, Symbolic, which came out the same year as Demanufacture.

Because I can’t post videos…

And how on Earth did they only shave 8mm off the chainstays, given the fuss they made about the OD of 29 plus tyres!?

Especially given that the Stache managed 30mm shorter chainstays for 29 plus…

The forks really do expose the potential problem with this bike. In order for it to be long enough for people to replace it, it has to be aluminium, which will probably be harsh as hell with standard 29er wheels…

So Genesis have designed a bike around a fork that has been designed to be replaced…Smooth move.

I’ve been involved in 4 strikes in my working life, only one of them was about pay.
None of them were anything to do with pissing off rich people or grabbing headlines.
All of them were a result of a breakdown in negotiations and were very much a last resort.

In fact, we went on strike last year during a ridiculous restructuring of Social Services. Our main reason for striking was that we did not agree with a process that we believed would leave children in danger. Cue headlines earlier this year that the restructuring our protests failed to prevent caused massive shortages of Social workers, leaving nearly 300 vulnerable children without an allocated worker.
Very often, people go on strike for very different reasons than money.

I didn’t realise that only poor people were allowed to go on strike.

All On-one need to do is market the inbred as a 27.5 plus/29er “bikepacking rig” and the longitude suddenly looks fairly pointless…

I’m not overly concerned. Losing an early wicket is night on inevitable on day one of the first ashes test. I think we have a very strong, attacking batting line-up. Probably would have put Root at 3 though…

Probably give him another innings… :P

So, a 29er frame with an aluminium sus-corrected fork and 110 front hub, hang on, it must be special, you can put a rohloff on it…

Look! a 29er frame for £500 that has clearance for 650 Plus…

Oh, hang on…

This one’s only £200…

The beauty of the 2015 Longitude was that there weren’t many bikes like it (and none easily available for £1000). The 2016 longitude, on the other hand, is pretty much the same as a lot of other bikes, but no cheaper (a lot more than an inbred).

The 2016 Longitude appears to me to have been massively compromised by a design process which seems more focused on picking which bandwagon to jump on than what works.

Obviously I haven’t ridden the 2016 Longitude yet and I’m not saying it’s a bad bike, there’s just nothing about it that separates it from most other 29er frames already out there.

Sorry Genesis, I think you make some bloody lovely bikes (I own two of them) but when you sell me a bike which is so good I haven’t ridden anything else for 6 months, then tell me that, actually, that bike is rubbish because it’s not the same as most other 29er frames, forgive me if I call you out on it.

For someone watching it for the first time I suggest you go either original or first directors cut. My wife saw the final cut first, hated it, then ended up seeing the first director’s cut and quite liked it. I get the feeling the final cut is better if you’ve already seen one of the other versions.

Proper crap, this seems to be becoming a bit too common round here. Will keep an eye out.

So what you’re saying is, I’m fat…
Fair play, I am.

Think that might negate some of the weight benefits of a tubeless system…

Or that…

Just gonna ride it til it dies. 8)

Not overly worried about it, just never seen it before. Doing coast to coast on it in a fortnight, just making sure it’s all kosher really.

Brand new tyre, initially didn’t want to seat in the rim, so I pumped up a tube to 30 psi in it for a couple of hours, then it went straight on.

They were definitely not there through the forces of nature.
To be fair, their presence didn’t upset me because they slowed me down, it was the thought of a local kid on a bso not being able to slow down, jump them or otherwise deal with them safely.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Though I kind of agree, scotroutes, a lot of kids use that trail and I hate the thought of one of them coming a cropper over them.

This is my fat front set-up (Chronicle front, 2.35 Ikon rear) for doing c2c later this month. Kept the rear thinner to preserve the triple, because I’m fat and hartside is, well, steep…

According to Genesis (now, at least), this set-up should be rubbish, causing “big changes in wheel OD that ultimately have a big effect on trail and handling”. Yeah, it makes it BETTER!
Better grip, better handling at speed, more cushioning and, weirdly, not too bad rolling resistance.
I now have three sets of wheels for my Longitude, the stock rims with fat-fat (1×10 or ss) or fat-not fat (triple/double), a set of hope tech xc wheels for fast xc with narrow(ish) tyres and a crappy set of wheels with super moto slicks on for commuting (geared or ss). However I set it up, it rides great (best on Chronicles though). This is the most versatile bike I have ever owned.

Though I’m sure the new Longitude will be a good bike, I just don’t see a market for it. Afterall, you can fit 650 plus tyres in most 29er frames, meaning anyone who already has a 29er is only a set of rims and tyres away from a very similar (and much cheaper) bike.

Fair play to you. My inlaws have been a nightmare from day one, they continually make my wife’s life hell. I have held my tongue this long, but I imagine having children will also force a change of approach…

I could understand if they introduced a 650+ version for shorter riders. The whole point of 650+ is that it fits in EXISTING 29er frames. Building a 650+ specific frame is essentially just building a 29er frame, but with annoying new standards to make sure all your existing kit wont fit.
I think Genesis might have their work cut out convincing people this frame is any more useful for bikepacking/adventuring than an inbred 29er.

Proper poor form that Facebook post is…

Got spotted by cameras in London in my van, which apparently was non-compliant with the Low Emission Zone (which I had never heard of).
First I knew about it was 2 weeks later when I got two PCN’s for £250 through the door. I rang them up, filled out a representation against the PCN’s (took 5 minutes online) and they let me off, despite the fact they were well within their rights to uphold the PCN’s. My ignorance of the LEZ was not much of an excuse, but the humans at the end of the machines used their discretion and let me off with a warning.
I now know not to drive my van in London and will not repeat the mistake, so the cameras have fulfilled their purpose.
The people that moan about getting caught out are often the ones that don’t learn from it.

Had a proper close pass today from a guy in a Vito van doing about 50. Caught him up at the next lights, lo and behold…texting!
Thought about going nuts at him, but came over all Zen. Shot him a proper dirty look, he looked a bit sheepish, avoided eye contact. I pulled up at the lights in front of him, then he was proper careful about overtaking me on the second attempt.
Going nuts at someone who has nearly killed you without even noticing is fine, the hope is that they might think a bit more about their driving and be a bit more careful.
Some people however will always be idiots…

That’s nothing, I did three laps of Hicks Lodge today… :mrgreen:

Stars of the lid
Oneohtrix point never
Fennesz
Emeralds
Alva Noto
Susuma Yokota
Blanck Mass

Reeps one

Did I say you can’t discuss it?
Just humansisng the subject matter.