I have thought about a van but I’ve heard insurance can be a bit more expensive and I was hoping to get a bit of a more comfortable ride for longer trips to cannock etc. And @ slackalice reel your neck in its obvious I’m not getting a top of the range x trail so I’m not being facicious I’m simply not in a position to try out a new ,to me, type of vehicle for a huge amount of money and then find I’m buying a poor model. Hence advice required if possible from people who probably have much nicer versions .