One poll goes in the separatists favour (after the don’t knows have been removed 😉 ) and they think they have it in the bag.

I read some of Ben’s and Ninfan’s posts about Scotland’s revenue and expenditure and decided to do a bit of digging.

2012 – 2013
Expenditure = 9.3%
revenue = 9.1

2011 – 2012
Expenditure = 9.3%
revenue = 9.9%

2010 – 2011
Expenditure = 9.3%
revenue = 9.6%

2009 – 2010
Expenditure = 9.3%
revenue = 9.4 %

2008 – 2009
Expenditure = 9.4%
revenue = 10.3 %

2007 – 2008
Expenditure = 9.6%
revenue = 9.5 %

2006 – 2007
Expenditure = 9.6%
revenue = 9.6%

Average expenditure = 9.4%
Average revenue = 9.6%

So it would seem that over 7 years Scotland barely contributes to the UK at all. So after independence Scotland would be looking to get only 0.2% of UK assets. Let me guess iScotland will now be arguing for a per capita based amount of assets?

Some would call it a fact that Scots are more welcome in England that the other way around. Don’t try to deny the anti English element in Scotland. I have experienced it first hand.

We must be doing something right.

As part of the UK….

I suspect fasternotfaster was only abused because he’s a trolling bellend and not because he is English. This myth that there is widespread anti-English sentiment in Scotland is a load of bollocks, sure there are some arseholes, proportionally not any more than what a Scot would face in England.

I walk in to a service station, people next to me hear my English accent and start to abuse me, the same happens within minutes of walking in a bar. What happens in Scotland when England play a foreign team at football? I saw the entire bar cheering on the other team, this doesn’t happen vice versa.

The majority of Scots don’t share your views so you can’t expect the media to be on your side. Hence why Ben is always posting links to “one man and his sheep” blogs.

The first lot of abuse was at a service station, the next lot was at a bar and on it continued. Face it some Scots are racist towards English people. The same level of hatred is not returned from the south of the border. Civilisation is only a few hours away, come any time you want.

Endless digs at the English with an undertone of violence. As I said though most people were pleasant. If ever you get bored of being surrounded by bigots you could always come down to England and be assured that people in general don’t bat an eyelid when they hear a Scottish accent.

You should try coming north once in a while – Scotland is radically different to the south of England, and a much nicer place to live for it.

I have been and I didn’t feel like I was in utopia. It wasn’t long before the racism started although most people were pleasant.

On the contrary, it is you who has an extraordinarily shallow understanding. People get that there is uncertainty over the financial impacts of independence, it’s just that finance is not at the top of their list of concerns

On a poll taken early in the year currency was top of the list of concerns. Maybe if this had been addressed before AS lost the first TV debate the polls would be more favourable of a yes vote.

As long as Scots accept that then I will sleep better tonight knowing that they no longer believe SNP lies that the rUK will capitulate and do what ever AS tells them to do.

Have fun buying your £’s on the markets and I am sure they will not take advantage of you. There will not be a currency union.

That the majority of money generated in Scotland is spent in Scotland and that Scots are owed maybe 1% of UK assets.

Scotland has paid a certain amount into the UK and a certain amount has been spent in Scotland. After that is taken into account how much is left of what they paid in, 1%? 2%? At best they have helped to subsidise Wales and Northern Ireland and they think they are owed 10% of all UK assets. Dream on.

Oil and gas money is a greater %age of Norways GDP than it is of Scotlands. I don’t see them looking around for some “broader shoulders” to share it with.

Exactly why they need an oil fund and the UK doesn’t.

The UK can afford to spend the oil money as it makes up a small percentage of our GDP. Without oil money the UK will do just fine. An iScotland on the other hand could be in trouble.

The polls could very well be out by a certain amount either way

Shame none of the polls agree with you 🙄

The only thing the independence campaign care about is greedily keeping the oil money for themselves.

no debt = £100 billion less in assets and less assistance in becoming truly independent from the UK. You can’t collect tax, issue passports or new driving licences until 2020 at the earliest. We can cut you off from day one if you want?

Hahahahaha. Have a wee think about that. First of all you’ve just said that Scotland is subsidising rUK. Secondly you’re assuming that the 10% has been pissed against the wall and hasn’t bought anything. Thirdly you’re assuming that everything that the 10% or 1% whichever figure you want to use has not paid for anything in the rUK.

Try again when your brain is working.

England more than pays for its way. Wales and northern Ireland now that is another matter all together. Now you could go and ask them for the 1% that you have been subsidising them.

Ah,more little Englander pish.Longs for the days when the butchers apron hung over half the world.

Do you long for the days when Scotland had an empire, oh dear that didn’t quite work out for you did it. Darien scheme anyone? 🙄

Anybody can invest in government bonds and you have to say who do you invest your money with people who pay there bills or people that have a history of not paying them? If you have a bad reputation then you have to pay more interest making borrowing more expensive. All of a sudden threatening to not take on any UK debt doesn’t look so good.

Where does all this “we have been paying for 10% of everything come from? You have been paying 10% and getting at least 9% back. Don’t spend your 1% all at once boys.

here’s another one that thinks the empire still rules the world!

A country with the 6th highest GDP in the world vs a country that will be as relevant on the world stage as the republic of Ireland. You are going to be small for a very long time 🙁

Do Scots really think the rUK would let them get away with not paying any of the debt? After independence they will be told what to pay and then they will do it. They will not all of a sudden gain the ability to stand up to the English. After all they have just spent the last 300 years having everything done for them by us, it takes time to learn to stand on your own two feet boys.

Scotland is already better together. Stop running Scotland down and don’t reply telling me how bad things will be if there is a no vote because that is negative tactics and the yes campaign will have to be renamed project fear.

A bailout is free a loan is paid back? Or am I wrong?

So expect the rUK to capitalise on iScotlands financial troubles rather than bail them out for free. Are nats still not acepting that a currency union will not happen? Threats of no debts are not going to force one either.

Bury your head in the sand over the arc of prosperity then.

So scotland is prepared to base its economy on hand outs from the UK? I imagine Scots are going to be rushing to vote yes based on that.

After independence Scotland no longer contributes tax to the UK so should not expect UK taxpayers to potentially bail out iScotland. Can you explain why the UK should bailout an iScotland?

How do you have a moral perspective over holding a potentially foreign country to ransom over accepting a currency union?

No Wan. It is more like we built up a debt together and you should pay your share and I am not going to bail you out should you get into debt after we divorce. 1 second after independnece is declared Scotland is no longer paying tax to the UK so it should not expect the UK to be lender of last resort.

Salmond wants devo-max leading to independence and if the Scots want independence I say miss out the middle step and go for it in a couple of weeks.

What was the outcome of the debate other than currency still undecided?

I guess that makes it a draw regarding the face offs. It will be interesting to see if there is any shift in the polls and based on the lack of content I would hope not.

Again I say not a good format for a referendum vote but better than nothing 😥

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Salmond had Darling where he wanted him… but only on minor points.

The “what three employment generating powers will westminster hand over” stuff was pitiful.

Worse than the house of commons.