Here is another.
Bleedin ‘ell elfin, i’m off to drink something strong now.

Someone else’s view, I broadly agree with, apart from the homophobia dying bit because it’s dancing across most of this thread.
When stripped down to it’s components parts though some people are on the whole objecting because it’s Elton and David and they are gay and they don’t like that. note *some.
It starts with Rightplacerighttime saying “father”; that’s it right there, also being a shopaholic is one of the key indicators of bad parenthood? You live you learn.
There are a lot of kids who end up in the world as unplanned unwanted results of unprotected poor decisions, born to decision makers who don’t get to be quizzed about their qualifications as life makers.
Some kids grow up with single parents, (however this happens, walkouts, death, divorce, …) some good, some not and some not ideal (this as it turns out isn’t exclusive to single parents) they might not all grow into the best people in the world but the idea that kids need a mother and a father is not a coverall. Some families with a mother and a father are not naturing hotbeds of small people incubators. As it goes we don’t know the particulars of their arrangement.
However you want to paint it though making babies is not some special love ritual to create life, for some it’s a drunken Christmas party, a broken condom and a baby in August.
There is debate though somewhere in there, but I think we’re mostly blinkered by our own opinions and an unyielding need to be right based on our experiences and beliefs.
Geetee I get you, you have a very valid point but I disagree fundamentally because I don’t think they are buying a baby (but you do) nor do I think of making babies as a sanctified act, because it mostly never is, but this comes down to experiences and beliefs.
Can I also be a handsome brute?

Last chance to catch the dying cinders.

Did not expect that ending. Good times.

I loved it a lot, can’t wait for season 6.

Thank you for the bump scaredypants and everyone else who’s offered to help.

I’m enjoying this. Tiff though?

It’s been like this at mine for three days. Just had a plumber round, will not be showering today.

Did what steveh did but went through Lady Cannings, icey scary ice nearly dropped it a few times. Great day out though.

Leave it to the Canadians[/url]

This the sort of thing you are after?

Anthracite

Hardly worth a burst vein. There is much worse than him; Hugh Grant for example, ok maybe not the worst, more like just as terrible. Still not worth a chewed lip.

Not involved at all just stirring, seems like a thing to do.

So so very good.

Lower than CRC? Pray tell. :-)

Is it not taking an obscenely long time to conclude this case? Where then does this leave the UCI as a body and the TDF as a contest.

Welcome sir/lady long may you stay. I am the welcoming committee, the cavalry will follow shortly. Don’t swear. You can say cow dung though. Here is the thing though most proper riders on here are out riding, the productive people who know stuff are on their bikes or trying diy so this makes this place kinda empty of knowing people on a Saturday. :D
Also you said Iphone, Ipad, Ipod; I’m allergic to apple so I can’t help. Hopefully someone will be by lick-ety split to help.

How do ‘the powers that be’ feel about this?

epicsteve

I take your point but I think the original question was about the bike as was as opposed to the bike upgraded. So in your case only the frame is ’04? As a follow on question have you ridden the ’11 Enduro?

Isn’t this just people mostly naming bikes they’ve owned in the last decade?
I don’t think you can have a consensus on the best bike because most people have not ridden most bikes that have come out in the last decade.
I might be wrong but certainly suspended bikes get better over time as technologies improve, everything else that’s attached is better (braking for instance) and become more accessible and affordable; otherwise if as this has a few votes the 04 Enduro/Jordan was the best bike of the last decade it would still be the current Enduro/Jordan, they wouldn’t have been the need to redesign, change or improve, no?

I think (and again I may be wrong) the idea is redesign to make better so that what’s current is the best possible version of what’s been, so it would follow then that the current Anthem is better than the first generation Anthem (having taken rider/racer feedback, testing over a longer period, better forks, drivetrain, brakes, they even moved the position of the shock).
True most of it is marketing testicles but the main point stands, jå?

The other choir doesn’t work so well on the radio.

Mostly off topic but inspired none the less[/url]
I like ‘The Merchant of Tennis’

That picture gives me the smilies.

So very stolen.

Once more, out of curiosity. Surely it has to be better; if not though lets all laugh at an unfunny one dimensional man sink his overstayed welcome.

These things cute though they are deserve to go the way of the dodo.

Female pandas are only on heat for 72 hours a year, and can only actually become pregnant during a 12 to 24 hour window during this time. ….. Rare interactions between aroused pairs [in captivity]often ended in disappointment, however. Male pandas have proportionately short penises meaning pairs must adopt a very exact position in order to mate.
During their observations, researchers found that pandas demonstrated poor knowledge of this position.
also Pandas feed exclusively on bamboo which is so low in nutrients they need to eat 20kg per day; In the wild they spend at least 10 hours a day choosing the best bamboo

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There is one down the road from me, convenient and open late. I’m into my third month going everywhere else but tesco’s. I abhor their treatment of producers. I might not be changing the world, they might not notice my little boycott but by gods I sleep better and the smugness is worth the extra effort spending money at independents.

You are the one watching sky.

Just finished watching Stewart Lee’s comedy vehicle.
Well scripted, good actors in relevant sketches with funny stand up bits in a tight focused show; everything Tramadol wasn’t. Shame really.

Based on what’s on now looks like channel4 has given up comedy, at least on Tuesdays.

Golly it’s awful. It’s fascinating to watch a man crash and burn. Stephen K Amos has not as I thought made the worst sketch show this year.

Was there in 06 after a Hollywood style dismount at Ae, actually I don’t remember most of the weekend but they were good to me, it’s as if they’ve had lots of practice.

I’ve been doing this about once a month for the last three years. It’s trying to think of different things to do while sitting starkers encircled by 15 strangers. The fun is in trying to work out which bit of you will seize first, or playing stare at that spot, poetry or trigonometry but it is £15 an hour too; so not bad.
My boner killer is John Prescott walking up the drive with a bottle of wine and flowers knocks on the and Maggie opens the door in a negligée. You are welcome.

So fake, no one shot him in the face and he isn’t screaming loud enough. That’s the seal of authenticity.

I laughed.

Finally watched the finale, I’m pretending to be surprised. It’s been a very good show.

Somewhere along the way talk on a television cookery show got diverted into a flinging grandstanding mine is curvier than yours. Tom can you start the site downtime now please. Sigh.

Mbongombongoland, Luxenbourg.