Just wait until early November. All the above will pale into insignificance in the face of dozens of the worst songs in the world about Christmas (especailly those "charity" ones)

The oldest is scratching himself to bits

How old?

If the football fans on here can generate this amount of absolute toss about 22 identical blokes trying to kick a ball between two identical sets of white-painted posts, what are the prospects for peace in Issrael/Palesstine?

Eldridge yesterday

the hands, lips and tongue are too big

the top part of the head is too small

and I'm not genitally mutilated 🙂

They're skin?

That would be "their" skin

I can do pedantry too 🙂

But yes, thinking with your skin is better than thinking with your dick

But obviously the brain is better equipped

The pineal gland?

And yes, being driven by your pineal gland gets you into a lot less trouble than being driven by your dick

Shall we go down to Bedlam this afternoon, to laugh at the lunatics? Such fun!

This sad lady is obviously seriously mentally ill – you just have to look at her body language and listen to how she deals with questions

Very sound piece of sentencing – prison would make her worse, a sus. sentence gives her the chance to get better.

I've no sympathy with the blokes she conned – if they'd been thinking with their biggest organ they would have run a mile – sadly they were governed by their smallest (not excluding their appendix)

and ****

is your computer screen located above your toilet bowl?

I'm aiming squarely at those kids who simply do not fit in.

Send them to a decent school and they will

Children with IQs of 120 and over, were expected to attend grammar schools. An IQ of 120 is hardly spectacular – I believe that approximately one third of the population has an IQ of 120. So a bit above average then.

The official percentage was 25% to the grammars, 75% to the sec mods.

The top 25% of any group are quite a lot better than

a bit above average

The top 25% of any abiliy group is highly able

What makes you think 'work-shy, lazy, feckless, violent, socially inadequate pupils' didn't go to grammar schools btw ?

of course, by the law of averages, a few must have done

but, thankfully for able working-class pupils at grammar schools, they were in a vanishingly-small minority and were therefore unable to drag their peers down with them in the way it happened at the sec mods

we've been told again and again that the grammar school system was evil because clever and conscientious working-class children were rejected

I have never heard that one before.

You've never heard of stories of able working class kids being rejected for grammar school?

Awesome igmorance

I went to grammar school, but often feel I would have done better at the local comprehensive

This is historical inaccuracy. If you went to grammar school, the other schools were not comprehensives, they were secondary moderns.

Grammar schools were for highly-able, academically-inclined, hardworking, well-motivated pupils from all social backgrounds

Secondary modern schools were for less-able, vocationally-inclined, hardworking, well-motivated pupils from all social backgrounds

Unfortunately this left no school places available for really stupid, work-shy, lazy, feckless, violent, socially inadequate pupils from degenerate backgrounds

So they were sent to the secondary moderns, with predictable effects on the achievements of clever and conscientious children who'd missed out on the eleven-plus

You seem upset that others don't agree with you, settle down, it's possible to disagree.

thanks for your kind and soothing words

if you research my posts on here, you'll find that I'm well aware it is possible for people to disagree with me

and that I'm well aware just how wrong they can be 😀

I've never understood the penis enlarger joke myself

That's probably because the size of your penis is beyond a joke

not if you'd sent him to a school full of clever and conscientious children

As I say, I didn't go to a grammar school so I wouldn't know about that.

So you're saying that the only schools whch might contain clever and conscientious children are grammar schools?

But we've been told again and again that the grammar school system was evil because clever and conscientious working-class children were rejected and sent to secondary modern schools. So presumably all your parents neededed to do was find a sec. mod. that was full of grammar school rejects, and you would then have gone to a school full of clever and conscientious children.

it is effing stupid to choose death

where TF does it suggest that she CHOSE death?

It just happened to her. She CHOSE to put risky stuff into her body, thinking, like all young people, that she could get away with it.

She CHOSE to ingest substances she thought would give her a good time. She didn't opt to commit suicide, any more than a skydiver whose parachute fails to open

Just in case it's at all relevant I should point out that I went to a pretty rubbish comprehensive

Of course it's relevant man. We know the actual name of one of the schools in this debate (it's "Eton") so to justify your side of the debate you now have to name your school.

Come on – its Eton versus ?? (a pretty rubbish but conveniently anonymous state comp)

You complain that these people have no idea about people like you

Whatever made you think I was talking about people like me?

I've never suffered financial hardship. Some of the jobs I've had have been given to me because of family connections. I've never lived in an ordinary community. Most of the people I have mixed with in my life have been well-off, a bit selfish, pretty complacent, definitely exploitative, many of them (though not me) insured with BUPA and privately educated.

It may be an odd concept to you, but I was using a concept called EMPATHY – the ability to understand how other people experience the world. So I was suggesting that an Eton-educated cabinet would be a bad idea for the country, not for me.

Apart from the gorgeously practical Landy/tent combo in the first picture, why would any sane man pay huge amounts of money for the other grotesque bits of over-engineered tin?

Surely cheaper and easier just to get your penis enlarged?

I'd probably prefer the PM not to be Eton educated, but unlike the vocal prejudiced on here, I don't see how it actually disqualifies somebody.

It disqualifies them because it virtually guarantees that they have no direct personal experience of financial hardship

It disqualifies them because it virtually guarantees that they have no direct personal experience of applying for jobs on their own merits

It disqualifies them because it virtually guarantees that they have no direct personal experience of living in an ordinary community

It disqualifies them because it virtually guarantees that the only people they have ever met are rich, selfish, complacent, lazy, well-connected, exploitative, private health scheme-insured, privately-educated, gated community-dwelling utter bastards

That's how it disqualifies them

The nation can be proud that the Liverpool Police pursued a case against the heroic captain of the Liverpool football team, prosecuted by the Liverpool branch of the Crown Prosecution Service in a Liverpool court before a Liverpool judge with a Liverpool jury and a baying crowds of thousands of Liverpool supporters outside the courtroom every day.

Justice must not also be done, it must be seen to be done in the eyes of Liverpool football supporters

she had a stupid death.

It was a stupid death in that she was young, and well-educated, and healthy, and physically fit, and attractive.

But she wasn't very intelligent (i.e. she was stupid) because she put risky stuff into her body

No one on here disputes this stuff

FFS just look at the original post! I don't care what the meaning of her life was. My point is, if you could design your own death, wouldn't you make it like hers – dieing apparently painlessly after a very pleasant evening of friends, booze, drugs and sex?

Not to mention not had kids, not been to America, not had experience of ladies of the night, not driven a ferrari, not done the three peaks, not ridden 200 miles in a day

this is irrelevant

I never said a good death was an early death

none of those considerable achievements has any bearing on how you die

My point is – whatever age you are, and whatever you might think you have achieved, death is the lowest common denominator and we have to hope it will be a good one

And I don't think that the one that started this thread can be bettered, unless you insert between having sex, and dying, the words:

charging an enemy machine gun nest and winning the VC

sfb

I'd want to be about 4 times that age

I am attracted by the manner of her dying, not the timing. Where exactly in my post does it suggest that part of the ideal death is that it happens when you are young?

Actually what I've suggested would be the ideal death for a 95-year-old. Wouldn't it?

God I hope so.

arranging your death

Arranging your death is suicide, and I don't advocate that (unless you believe that it gives you access to previously unavaliable supplies of virgins)

But if it just happened like that, how could it be bettered?

Come on STW: what's a better death than a good night out with friends from which you come home full of booze and drugs, have sex, and then die?

there have been a few incidents because he's clever and concientious and not violently inclined

you mean he's been bullied and belittled and called a swot and a boff because he's bright and hard-working (conscientious)and likes his teachers and enjoys going to school. And he's done absolute wonders to maintain his levels of achievement in the face of constant denigration from his peers?

he'd get that anywhere.

no he wouldn't

not if you'd sent him to a school full of clever and conscientious children

should work now – sorry

dog friendly campsitesThis might help

I use it to avoid them, but each to his own

"Reasonable force" is absolutely OK

But why were they there?

Don't tell me "because there was a complaint"

A complaint of what?

Who complained about what criminal activity to cause the police to turn up in force?

And the tag at the top of this post says, "sounds like he deserved it"

Deserved 10% burns?

his ethnicity

read the original article, which tiptoes around the issue

so I'm guessing someone called them?

About what? Someone sniffing petrol?

Its still not clear why they were there, and what made this particular loony charge the police with a bottle of petrol and a lighter

What I object to is the sense on here, which GrahamS so clearly communicates, that this is an uppity Abo who got what he deserved

The only food you can polish is apples

That, presumably, is the ageing wreck of what was once an attractive woman

Anyone got any pix of her in her prime?

It's not clear from this thread why the police were present at all.

The aboriginal community in Oz has huge social deprivation problems, many of them treaceable back to British colonialism, and resulting in drug dependency and alcohol and substance abuse.

But what made a normally unremarkable, private, petrol sniffing habit into a public issue for police involvement and explosive tasering?

I genuinely want to know

this thread is useless without pictures

how am I supposed to evaluate a woman's opinions if I can't tell whether I would

I'm with GrahamS on this one – it's not about the memorial, it's about the pathetic inadequacy of the graffitists, desperately seeking a way of making their mark, making themselves visible, in some way that doesn't require talent or hard work.

Clean it off and you make them invisible again. And go on doing it for as long as it takes.

Thanks for the new link, but that churns away for several seconds without revealing anything (I've got rural "broadband" courtesy of AOL)

So please summarise why this person deserves a STW post

Thanks

The original link on this thread is broken, so:

Who the hell is Sarah Kennedy and why is she so important she merits a post on here?

Enlighten me

I love cats

I admire their cold superciliousness

Whoever Photoshopped our Lord with a gun is a blasphemer and is damned..

in the eyes of gun geeks – the Taliban use the AK47 and later variants, infinitely superior for irregular combat to the American weapon depicted