yeah i thort it was a five hahahaha we wud be like twins then ! fives are ace … just had a look on google maps and it showed a path leading from whitehole res to Blackstone edge, so yeah that wud be ok too…i go Blackstone edge way regular too. so im guessing from the whiteholme res its like a circular ride over to Blackstone edge,,,, anyway yeah i saw the few long gates in the distance at that whiteholme signpost, and i thort ‘god more gates’ (lol) there are far too many gates on out moorlands isnt there..lol