Rob:

They come with 48:16 as standard (i think) which is 81″. bearing in mind that i won’t be tackling any hills on it, i think i might be ok… We’ll see. Cheers!

Rob:

Loving the green pomp there! What gearing do you use for the long rides? Looks quite low to my eye.

I’m looking at getting a Pomp next week, so i’ll no doubt have to experiment a bit…

CTBM?

http://www.ctbm.org/

That’s exactly what i was after! For some reason people started talking about cycling…

What tires for a bike made of stickers?

You might like the Responsorium a bit more when it arrives in terms of colour. That will have a baby blue pearl base, with whatever Mario decides to apply on top

That does sound nice…

Anyway, i hope you enjoy your new bike! If nothing else, it’ll stand out and devide opinion!

Edit:

Duffer – it’s those hand-written bits that ad to the charm. You don’t get that from a Taiwanese Robot!

And about this, you are absouletly correct!

The paintwork is nicely detailed close up, but from a distance it just looks messy to my eyes. If we’re continuing the Marmite analogy, then put me down for a hate, i’m afraid! (and tell me the “handmade in Italia by Dario” is a joke?! It looks like it was done by a child with a felt-tip!)

Loose the deep section rims, and make it a nice pastel colour with matching seat and tape and i’ll change my vote!

But if you like riding it, then ride it!

If i’m preparing to rad it to the max gnar, i’ll drop my seat post all the way. If i’m doing steady cross country, i’ll have it as high as is appropriate.

Usually, i’ll move it down a quarter of an inch from XC hight, and this allows reasonably efficient peddling, whilst letting me move around on the downhills properly. This is normally my all-purpose seat hight.

If you’re trying to ride with it down all the time, you’ll get very knackered very quickly. And build strong legs!

Putting stickers on your bike is fine if you are 12 but if you are an adult

I agree, putting stickers on things is a sure fire way to mark yourself out as a bellend. But these are different – these are funny!

Bump for the day shift.

Rolling and general uppy downy, bumpier than normal XC stuff = 456.

Steep nadgery techcore gnarl (Ragley TM) = Blue Pig 456 Summer Season

Fixed that, for you! 😉

The 456 is a simple, well designed and strong hardtail. No, it’s not the lightest, but it’s not a racing bike. It rides well, will take a wide range of fork sizes and is good fun to ride.

But above all else, it’s seriously cheaper than any of it’s competitors (good design costs nothing)

I’d keep the IBIS, as it’ll compliment your newer ones. Plus the other two will probably sell for more.

With a 160mm fork, you’d be better off with a standard 456 (but it’s too late for that now!) The summer season is intended to have a shorter fork, but never mind. It’ll cope with 160mm, though.

As for tires, a mate of mine runs some kind of tractor tire in the back of his (i think it’s an old Conti of some desription…) but it measures about 2.6 and fits fine. You’ll not have any trouble with an Ardent.

Have fun with your new machine! I have the standard 456, and it’s ace.

Bonty tires are always difficult. You can make it easier on yourself by making sure it’s properly seated on the opposite side to where it’s tight – this can sometimes let a bit of pressure off, and allow it on. Other than that, just persevere.

Not mine, i hasten to add! Stolen from here.

I love the way the brazed joints have tarnished – it looks bloody gorgeous.

As for the OP, i don’t think that technology is spoiling the point of riding, i just think that it’s getting outrageously expensive. £40 for a brake disc?! It’s only s piece of stamped ally, and i wouldn’t pay that much for a disc for my car!

There is always the option to forgo the technology, however, if that’s what you want (Singlespeed, rigid, etc) But as long as people keep buying whatever shite the industry turns out, they’ll keep making it!

ps – I’m just as guilty as everyone else – i found myself paying £50 for a seatpost the other day! 🙄

Cars went down hill before the introduction of roofs etc.

Remember how much fun food was before refrigeration.

And who can forget the lovely warm glow of getting sick before the advent of penicillin.

Who are these cretins advancing human existence…

These are examples of huge advances in science and industry. The context of this thread are huge advances in parting you with your cash. Not really a viable comparison.

Once everyone has bought 10-speed bikes, all the sponsored riders will start riding 11-speed. Then the marketeers will start telling us that we need to buy 11-speed. Progress? I’m not convinced.

130 years ago, the Bicycle was pushing the envelope of what was technologically possible. Lets not forget that ball-bearings and pnumatic tires, amongst other things, were developed for the bike. But the world has moved on since then.

My 456 – 100mm fork is plenty for most of what i ride. Ocasionally it’ll get overwhelmed in seriously rocky areas, but it’s only a cheap fork anyway. I did run it with a Pike for a while, and that was smashing, but the Pike went back on the FS after a few weeks. If i was to have one MTB, this would be it.

Some shiny new pictures on the On-One website. People grumble about the look of the stays, but i think they look rad/gnar/mint/smashing:

There is a video on the ‘Tube about getting a tungsten ring off – squeese it with some mole-grips and it snaps pretty quickly.

This is a better example, i’d say! 😉

From what i can gather, they are ridden because of all the reasons above (strong, reliable, cheap, etc). I don’t have one, but may very well be getting one quite soon…

I’d contact Singular. If they say it’s safe, then keep riding it. I reckon it’s fine, from those pictures.

An unusual choice of bars for a Summer Season… But if it works for you, then great! Personally i’d put some risers on there, and cut the steerer tube down to get rid of all those spacers.

PS – Your mate’s blue Inbred is actually a 456 😉

It’s looking good for the Pompino, then! Although i’m not sure a steel, singlespeed road bike is niche enough any more…

tomhplanetx – Member

@Duffer The current ones are 120mm rear spacing.

Excellent! Thank you very much! On the website, the bike configuring tool offers hundreds of 3TTT bars, but no On-One bars. I fancied trying a Midge – is there any scope for getting some instead?

Am i right in saying the new ones are 120mm hub spacing? I’m wondering about perhaps Sturmey Archer in the future…

Sounds good. I did think about slicking up my hack hardtail, and commuting on that. However, upon consulting the Domestic Chief of Staff, i was advised that i’d better buy a dedicated machine for the job. Damn!

Pompino is the favourite at the minute. Has anyone had an experience of any similar frames – Roadrat, Day one, etc? I’d be interested to hear some different opinions.

Spesh Pitch, Full length cables. Honestly, i’d be put off buying a bike without them.

WMB is a good read if you’re looking to buy something. But other than consumer reviews, it’s not got much going for it.

MBUK is the Max Power of the cycling world. Only worth reading if you’re under 15.

STW i find difficult to read. It looks like some students photography coursework – IE lots of glossy pictures, and a bit of small writing in an awkwardly contrasting colour. To be honest, i find Dirt to be similar.

My magazine of choice is MBR. It’s a long way from perfect obviously (they pretty much declare hardtails illegal, for a start), but i find it’s more aimed at riding than buying fancy kit.

Can’t believe there’s only been 1 and-a-half votes for the Golf! Someone even voted for a Citroen, for crying out loud!

The Focus is nice enough, but personally i just don’t like Fords. For me, Golf every time. Get yourself a nice 1.9 TDI (with the 6 speed box ideally) and you’ll not regret it.

hard tails pick a line down the trail

I genuinely enjoy doing this when I’m riding my FS! But overall, I ride my HT more often.

jti26 – Member
Duffer,
Cheers, yep, I’d be up for joining your group for some Sunday morning rides if that’s OK. Probably can’t make weeknights, as working hours mean getting home a bit late (and commuting diguised as a roadie!) Are you around this Sun?

Not around this sunday i’m afraid, but i’ll be out next week. i’ll let you know place/time etc.

Maxxis rubber usually comes up quite small anyway.

You shouldn’t mix batteries in that charger – you could damage them.

I recall Brant wrote a bit of a story behind why it came about and it was originally designed with shorter forks in mind.

^^^this^^^

It was originally intended to achive a slack head angle without the need for 160mm+ forks (which is what people were doing with their 456s). Brant took the standard 456 geometry and changed the head angle, so you only need a short fork.

Somewhere along the line, people got the idea that “slack angles = long forks required”, but that’s not the summer season concept.

If you look through these forums long enough, you’ll find Brant has said this himself.

Edit – i just found this:

brant – Member
The Summer Season was initially conceived on the little drop/step off the edge of the millpond wall, towards the bottom of mmmbop in Ragley Woods, when Benji was trying to sort of hop a Cotic with 160mm forks around a techy corner and the fork was just soaking up all his techy moves. It sort of looked like a trials motorcyclist, sort of pumping the fork to move the wheel.

Me, Ed, Timk and Benji then went to Mooch afterwards, and over a grilled halloumi sandwich, I decided to make some frames that were 2degs slacker than normal, so you could get the same slackness as a normal 456 frame, but with a lower, shorter fork.

The summer season wasn’t really “designed”, it was kind of just a modified 456. “Make that, but with 2degs off the head angle”. There also exists two frames, one 16in, and one 18in, which were ANOTHER 2degs slacker still, but I’ve never ridden either. Timk has one I think.

At that time I was riding a rigid, geared on-one 29er.

When the frames landed, I fitted mine with 130mm Revelations, and left them on full travel, cos it seemed rude not to. Then I got into sticky dual ply tyres, and stuff.

It was this experiment with slack head angles that led to me doing more slack head angle stuff with Ragley.

I have no idea whether on-one have changed any of the geometry since I left, which is now 2yrs ago

There’s a group of us local to the mendips, but it’s suffered from the weather badly this year. We’ve been spending more time on the Quantocs or in wales of late.

We tend to ride once or twice during the week, and on sunday mornings. Give us a shout if you fancy it, and we’ll show you some of the area.

PS – Burrington coombe is a challenging climb (we sometimes start from there) but it’s not that good of a decent really – fast, but largely uneventful. There is much better stuff in the area 🙂

clearly a hardtail rider 😉

I’m not sure the weight is an issue? The first thing you’ll do with it is fill it with 3l of water, surely?

I have a mule NV, and very nice it is too. Quite how it differs from teh standard mule, i’m not sure.

Is the chain worn? Or are the chainrings worn? Using a worn chain on new chainrings (or vice versa) will cause problems.

Or, on second thoughts, this[/url] 😀

The only down side to the On One appears to be the forks required to compliment the geometry are a little more expensive than the forks which currently reside in my CRC shopping basket. I’m no expert but the On One looks to be designed for longer forks

Forget ye not, the Ibis is very steep in terms of geometry. The On-One on the other hand is more trail oriented. Also, the 456 is designed to run forks from 100mm to 160mm, and is more than comfortable at either extreme. I run my (steel one) with 100mm forks, and jolly nice it is too.

Here is a bundle that includes the On-One and a 150mm RS Rev fork for £713. There is also a similar deal to include the Maxle version of the same fork.

The Ibis is a gorgeous bike, but seriously – £1200 quid for a bike frame?! That’s not even funny. I’d have the On-One. This is what i’d have with £2000 to spend:

£720 for the frame and fork, £340 for an XT groupset, £250 for a hope wheelset, £200 for a good brakeset, £200 on finishing kit. Nearly £300 change, thank you very much.