I have owned hebtroco, Edwin, naked and famous, unbranded, and iron heart selvedge jeans. I prefer Hebtroco out of that lot, 14oz is more wearable as well than some of the daft 20oz plus weights. For the guy who said the don’t do 36 inside legs, yes they do! All the jeans are 2 inches longer, they tell you that. Now if they would only launch a selvedge chino…Brant! Brant! Brant!