with the 2.0 tdi or the 1.9 tdi?

yeah purple flash in face… not ideal at all!
i’ve never seen them go off on other side from road mind.

where is the pain exactly? is it in the wrist or go into the hand? do you loose sensation anywhere?

could see rich leave and good old Tiff come back….

i kinda got the impression Hora said he would have protected them, as in put himself inbetween them as opposed to protection a la mafia kinda protection but i might have missed if Hora is of Italian descent?

see… when i buy something its more important for me to have it when they say they will. sending a second shifter would make me question them more! why not a refund? and two calls without an answer would make me even sader – we all cock up but its how they deal with it and personally i don’t think they didn’t deal with it well….

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that one is from derby so right neck of the woods…

ermmm you should be able to boot into safe mood, log on as admin and manage accounts and sort out the password from there i believe….

the three and then blood test is the way i remember it…

bless, kids are pretty tough! she prob won’t even blink!

i believe somewhere along the road there was an issue about the first socket into the house – the master one is bt’s baby and so you shouldn’t touch that one directly, you can plug into it and give a feed but that one has to stay normal as in a fault situation they will cover their end upto that point but if you have messed with the master socket then they can get grumbly. so you should be able to tag on an extension easily enough. For virgin, the tend to not like people moving their stuff around full stop but they have no idea whats happening half the time anyway!

ooo didn't think about that!

bought some off here! are really nice glasses! really like them, have the three sets and clear lenses are nice in the evening"

TandemJeremy

Your failure to grasp the realities of the situation and your descent into childish name calling show how impoverished your argument is.

I do have to admit that at times when replying to Hagi i did have to delete and re-write my reply as i did feel some personal comments but i suppose i put that down to feeling so involved and strongly about this issue…

thank you. strange that they put this information so easy at hand….

Again, all of this is possibly not relevant as I doubt most people would take the time and effort to read it.

The fact is people who are experts in their field have certified this vaccine. I've yet to hear a credible reason for frontline workers to not take it (assuming they don't suffer allergies etc). Its their choice, but I'd hope they had a justifiable reason as it could cost lives.

So where is this information in a handy location that is easy to disseminate?

To you maybe, but to me:
1. It tells me that they've gone for EMEA regulation rather than the less strict MHRA approval

But the point is it a rushed process, it is not the standard long trialed process that is normally used. I know the circumstances do not allow such long testing but that does not mean that just because it is the most stringent available that it is suitable.

2. Its basis is the H5N1 vaccine trialled in 2007, using the same building blocks just with a different viral protein composition – I can't find any evidence of that causing any serious complications

Ok, was this vaccine given en mass?

3. It tells me what the adjuvant is in case you are concerned about that (you do know what an adjuvant is don't you?) – in this case squalane (implicated in gulf war syndrome prompting a number of studies all of which conclusively proved no link to any known health issues)

Theres a lot of debate about that but i fear it is more the people still discussing 9/11 causes that are talking of that…

4. They have scheduled a load more follow up tests to ensure that their product isn't harming people

Thats the point! What if in the next test result they realise that it is harming people and that there is a delay before the symptoms show?? My concern is that there isn't any evidence that one month is a justified test length. Given if it wasn't a pandemic and a new medication was to be introduced the pathway is years upon years, how come a pandemic can slash this time? are corners being cut? Now call me cynical but i have heard rumors that the government do sometimes do deals with companies… and that some contracts are not dealt fairly… Now i haven't read any tabloid hysteria on this, i have just experience to cause me to question. I still see no source of answers! People will have it as its the right thing to do. I am not qualified enough (as you have previously assumed) to make the decision myself and i don't believe the information that is coming in such dribs and drabs from a very unorganised direction and so look to more learned colleagues who also are unsure.

hagi

I stand by it as the information is there but I wouldn't expect a receptionist or a junior nurse to be able to fully understand and interpret it.

Sorry, I maybe be a humble receptionist but i must be lower than even your expectations as i am missing something from the link you provided? it merely is the authorisation for the medication and shows the conditions of its such and provision. It highlights a clinical trial that ran for one month upto the 15th of October, and highlights further plans for follow up work but it doesn't discuss the trial results, it doesn't provide any information from which to make a useful conclusion. It is basically the application for the drug to gain status as a useable med.

I agree with you completely about the lack of education and information, however i am just unable to share your strong stance when i have yet to see such information that would allow people to make an informed decision.

moving aside from the question of whether (because i will as soon as I'm offered it, with a recent history of asthma rapidly becoming chest infections / pneumonia) – but does anyone know any details of when / how?

I believe that vaccines are being given to GP's within the next 3 weeks. Healthcare staff are being done separately in different clinics but Gp's will receive stocks and then send for people in the normal way that they would with seasonal flu…

As has been said already the only really novel part of this drug is that it has attenuated H1N1 virus in it instead of the regular flu strains.

I am not so sure, the impression i got from the WHO website is that there are different cases as regards emergency approval of medication in emergency circumstances (which this has been classed as) and one of them is altered medication but this not the class that the vaccines have been treated as, they have been treated as new medication… This might be a lack of understanding on my behalf but obviously shows there is concern, and if you look at other sources they do speak about the contents of the medication and list certain compounds that cause concern. I am not a pharmacist so i can't truely form my own opinion on that but there is no official responce and so that does raise questions.

You've hit the nail on the head there, several studies have been published that prove higher uptake of vaccines in healthcare workers when they properly understand the risks vs the benefits.

My concern with the above is that these studies are conducted by parties with an interest in the success of the trials. Normal medication takes years to go through the system and yet these vaccines have been rushed through. The source of this "better education" would be of interest to me, i am willing to learn but i see lack of independant verification. [You state that the risks are very low compared to the benefit but the general feeling amongst people i speak to is that the true risk is unknown, Yes there are the risks as per any vaccination but there has been little testing time to see if there is anything long term, as far as i am aware the trials have been for only one month] ( [ through ] represents what i have as my understanding, there is no impartial evidence and normally that wouldn't bother me, i don't read clinical trials of asprin before i take it but i do feel that this is a knee jerk reaction and the lack of an instant confident responce from those in power makes me question more).

I am not looking for an arugement or trolling, just curious…

Unfortunately the percieved view is that everybody who works in the healthcare profession is capable of making an informed judgement on the safety and efficacy of vaccination.

I am sorry but i found that quote a bit mean, you agree there might be a lack of evidence and so how can someone make an informed decision without that information? if that information is not present then you have to decline until the required data is there and so there is a possibility that anyone who declines are the people who are wanting to make an informed decision and not blindly follow the advice of a government who mentioned before have handled this whole situation badly.

The Best definition i ever heard was by Robinson… really good Motorcycle dude.. even outbroke abs… anyway

Imagine you standing on the edge of a cliff with a rope in ur hands, on the end of the rope is a boulder..
Torque is what limits how big the boulder can be
Power what limits how fast you can pull it up.

if you do decide to hire.. i would suggest arnold clark… used them a lot when i was student up there and were really helpful, were cheaper than most and would pick me up and drop me off from station. Same they don't come this far down south but would really recommend them…

Following this with interest… I am not trying to be a conspriacy starter but there are some issues that don't add up to me and these issues worry me and lead me to not jump on the bandwagon.

Why have they only planned to vaccinate at risk groups? Given as mentioned above that it "can kill a healthy person" seems weird, surely you would jab everyone? **( I know in the BMJ article linked above that it says everyone, i have been told otherwise)

The way the anti-virals have been dished out seems to generate questions, handing them out so willingly with a simple website/phone based test that is easy to fool, with the problem that officially only one antiviral per person should be issued. The WHO advised that Tamiflu (the antiviral) is not administered Tamiflu to children, yet it is currently being done so, and with such disregard, I have heard of all the people given tamiflu, the actual occurence of swine flu is below 20%, that is risking harm without reason.

You question the individuals here who have admited they wouldn't like to take the vaccine… but http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1208716/Half-GPs-refuse-swine-flu-vaccine-testing-fears.html shows nearly half of GP's are concerned and would decline, now either theres a massive lack of information OR they know something me and you don't! I personally have reason to think misinformation is an issue here.

Given the issues above i am not seeing the vaccine as a holy grail and so am not rushing to have it. I think it is an individuals decision.

i'm going to be supporting the roll out of the vaccine around my way (not in a clinical fashion -merely dogsbody) and feeling from that area is people should have it, but most nurses and docs i've spoke to away from that specific environment feel it is theres a lack of testing. I believe the quoted timeframe has been one month. I might be mistaken but i have lead to believe it is different in makeup from the normal vaccine. I will be offered it and i feel i will decline, i just intend to be amazingly stringent on the hand washing and the like. Will be more relaxed than the environment "Crikey" seems to work in.

I believe because this strain is so far mutated from the standard strains that no one has any resistance to it and hence why the problems and so natural immunity isn't going to happen, it might just be some people will have stronger immune systems.

Arnold Clark are amazing, don’t think they go that far down south but they are lovely!

I travelled by train to go look at a bike and i didn’t know if i was buying one or not so i didn’t book, I turned up to the train station and asked at the ticket counter to be told i had to have booked and there was no chance of getting on the train with one, i then asked the crosscountry trains people as i passed their office and they told me there was no need to book and that there wouldn’t be a problem unless there was people already there with bookings… seems they don’t even know between them! and then i asked the ticket inspector on the train who didn’t care!
If i was travelling again i would deffo book! is normally the night before at the latest!

so how do snakes sleep??

ssssssssoundly

Why not get a boat?

given this is abou cycling….

Mayb you took such a long detour in the hope of it not following you, that it beat you back?

thank you! I feel i have picked up such bad habits! I stay away from granny and 11 and large front and large back… Nevermind! Thanks…

Ok…. now i feel like a muppet?
If i’m riding on the level then i sit in middle ring at font and small cog at back? gives a good balance… i agree when i go off road i change more but generally i am riding along the road….. Please explain? do people not normally wear this cog out first?

have checked it but will check again, tbh i normally leave it in 11 at back and shift the front gears around.

Halfords were at some point doing a 3 for 2 on tools…. and they do stock some park stuff so would dboule check there

Landmines?

i agree with coffeeking, my only comment would be to put something in the box, fo the gap, even if it is simply out of work, then it looks like you aren’t trying to hide it

LOL!!!
that is an amazing idea!!!

I’ve never seen Hora and IWH in the same room!

I thought it was all about zero filling many times?

i used the scheme with my insurance was only £30 more i think, had some bad stories from RAC/AA a few years back and so have always stayed away but i suppose if they have changed their kit then it would be good. My only personal experience of RAC was a friend who suffered loss of oil and had to convince the recovery guy that car oil wouldn’t work

Given they can’t filter the crap out of the nasty stuff out of the exhaust in car… maybe if you wore a proper respirator?

Could be a chance its slipping on the old chainrings.

wouldn’t it do it in every gear then? or in the smaller gears where theres more torque?

if you turn bike upside down and put it in that gear does it turn properly? and if you check each point for the chain engagement, so press the chain onto the cogs of the cassette, the rear mech do they all sit properly?

I have a ubber spacer from a race face bb. Have given up on external BB! so have the 3 2.5mm spacers.. if you want one email me your addy and i can post it tuesday?